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« on: November 12, 2009, 05:04:25 AM »

The book of the month for my Granddaughters kindergarten class is...

   Barack Obama: Son of Promise, Child of Hope by Nikki Grimes

My kids always hated that I "made them" go to private schools. Now my son understands why I did it.

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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 05:08:43 AM »

And people wonder why we LUNATICS on the right call it "PROPAGANDA". At least there are still people out there who realize it's wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 05:40:35 AM »

Perhaps you'd like this one better... from the same author.

http://www.nikkigrimes.com/books/bkvoices.html
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 05:47:18 AM »

And people wonder why we LUNATICS on the right call it "PROPAGANDA". At least there are still people out there who realize it's wrong.

Sheesh... it's always 'information' when your side does it, 'propaganda' if the other side does it.  Chill.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 05:49:18 AM »

Perhaps you'd like this one better... from the same author.

http://www.nikkigrimes.com/books/bkvoices.html



Nope, That would piss me off too. Unless I had my child in a paroquial school, then I would expect it.

I'd like them to stick to the 3 R's,and leave the politics and religion to her family.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 05:54:21 AM »

I'd like them to stick to the 3 R's,and leave the politics and religion to her family.
Amen Jeff. cooldude
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2009, 05:59:30 AM »

And people wonder why we LUNATICS on the right call it "PROPAGANDA". At least there are still people out there who realize it's wrong.

Sheesh... it's always 'information' when your side does it, 'propaganda' if the other side does it.  Chill.

If someone wrote something along the same lines of that book, but about Sarah Palin or George Bush, I would call it propaganda. I don't think "artists" should have any say in what children think. PERIOD. Whether or not it's liberal or conservative.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 06:40:44 AM »

The book of the month for my Granddaughters kindergarten class is...

   Barack Obama: Son of Promise, Child of Hope by Nikki Grimes

My kids always hated that I "made them" go to private schools. Now my son understands why I did it.

 tickedoff

The issue here is that it is the "Book of the Month".  Those are books you can purchase if you want them or don't purchase them if you don't want them.  No one forces anyone to read them.  The choice is the individuals (strangely sounds like democracy in action to me).  Usually, the editors pick the book, not the school system.  They offer them up to students and families to help the child learn to read.  Sometimes the "Book of the Month" can be Harry Potter.  Does that mean our country has switched to believing in witchcraft?  Geeezzzzeeeee!

Talk about trying to turn a molehill into a mountain!!!
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 07:13:13 AM »

The book of the month for my Granddaughters kindergarten class is...

   Barack Obama: Son of Promise, Child of Hope by Nikki Grimes

My kids always hated that I "made them" go to private schools. Now my son understands why I did it.

 tickedoff

The issue here is that it is the "Book of the Month".  Those are books you can purchase if you want them or don't purchase them if you don't want them.  No one forces anyone to read them.  The choice is the individuals (strangely sounds like democracy in action to me).  Usually, the editors pick the book, not the school system.  They offer them up to students and families to help the child learn to read.  Sometimes the "Book of the Month" can be Harry Potter.  Does that mean our country has switched to believing in witchcraft?  Geeezzzzeeeee!

Talk about trying to turn a molehill into a mountain!!!


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This year, our selections will focus on a monthly character goal. Parents can support this by talking with your child about these character traits as we progress through the year.

This book is listed under "Patriotism"

So under their program of teaching "character", recommending Harry Potter would be considered promoting witchcraft as a positive personal trait.  

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 07:33:43 AM »


... I don't think "artists" should have any say in what children think. PERIOD. ....

Well, that's pretty scary.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 07:35:58 AM »

It has plenty to do with Faux Noise viewers and their distorted world view.  Why else would someone feel compelled to post paranoid BS everyday on a motorcycle web site?

 
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2009, 07:41:43 AM »

Some enjoy being paranoid at all times.  Tough way to live, but inevitable for those who drink the Faux Noise kool aid.  Doesn't matter how many times Faux is proved wrong or misleading (see Hannitys latest fake news story on the teabaggers Capitol hill demo) - it's the propaganda of choice for many.

It also makes everything much simpler in a complex world to blame the government for everything that is, or might go wrong in their lives.  It's an easy way to avoid personal responsibility..

It's not paranoid, it's being aware. And the only thing that I will accuse the government of is being too big. And that, my friend, is not a democrat or republican issuse, it is the fault of both. I'm tired of paying more taxes to get a rebate. I'm tired of pretty much every government program. I'm tired of "Affirmative Action". It's total BS! I'm tired of bailouts. And I'm tired of the lack of accountability (citizens and poloticians alike). It seems like, since Clinton, the country as a whole has decided that it's not a good idea to take responsibility for your own actions if you can pass the buck and let someone else take the fall. I'm not paranoid. I'm just sick and tired of the direction our society is headed.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2009, 08:03:42 AM »



It's not paranoid, it's being aware. And the only thing that I will accuse the government of is being too big. And that, my friend, is not a democrat or republican issuse, it is the fault of both. I'm tired of paying more taxes to get a rebate. I'm tired of pretty much every government program. I'm tired of "Affirmative Action". It's total BS! I'm tired of bailouts. And I'm tired of the lack of accountability (citizens and poloticians alike). It seems like, since Clinton, the country as a whole has decided that it's not a good idea to take responsibility for your own actions if you can pass the buck and let someone else take the fall. I'm not paranoid. I'm just sick and tired of the direction our society is headed.

"Since Clinton?"  Oddly, my father thought FDR was the villain. And he could have written exactly the same words fifty years ago. Except, of course, that he was outraged by school integration rather than "affirmative action."

In any event, it's something of a leap to see a children's book that celebrates the life of America's first African American president, an event worth celebrating in the eyes of most folks, to a rant over "big government," "taxes," "government programs," "bailouts," "lack of accountability," lack of "responsibility," etc. etc. etc.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2009, 08:13:30 AM »

If you're calling me racist... I have a black friend, AND a black president LOL. It's not racist to think that affirmitive action is wrong. Affirmative Action is racist.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2009, 08:29:47 AM »

Some enjoy being paranoid at all times.  Tough way to live, ..........

Kinda like those that buy into the Al Gorebal warming crap being discussed currently in another thread?
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2009, 08:33:28 AM »

Some enjoy being paranoid at all times.  Tough way to live, ..........

Kinda like those that buy into the Al Gorebal warming crap being discussed currently in another thread?


Perhaps you should check into the definition of "paranoid." One manifestation is a belief in vast conspiracies. That more or less characterizes the global warming deniers.
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2009, 08:44:41 AM »

It's not a conspiracy theory... it's a belief that Global Warming is bullsh!t
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2009, 09:27:39 AM »

It's not a conspiracy theory... it's a belief that Global Warming is bullsh!t

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2009, 09:33:53 AM »

Don't blame Global Warming on Al Gore.  The Bush admin also admitted it was real (when forced).  But don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy rant....



http://news.mongabay.com/2008/0530-bush.html

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2009, 10:26:55 AM »

Dude, the only one ranting is you, Scanner. I'm just stating that I think it's BS.
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2009, 11:36:53 AM »

The book of the month for my Granddaughters kindergarten class is...

   Barack Obama: Son of Promise, Child of Hope by Nikki Grimes

My kids always hated that I "made them" go to private schools. Now my son understands why I did it.

 tickedoff

The issue here is that it is the "Book of the Month".  Those are books you can purchase if you want them or don't purchase them if you don't want them.  No one forces anyone to read them.  The choice is the individuals (strangely sounds like democracy in action to me).  Usually, the editors pick the book, not the school system.  They offer them up to students and families to help the child learn to read.  Sometimes the "Book of the Month" can be Harry Potter.  Does that mean our country has switched to believing in witchcraft?  Geeezzzzeeeee!

Talk about trying to turn a molehill into a mountain!!!


You might know somethings, but your don't know everything.

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Book of the month
This year, our selections will focus on a monthly character goal. Parents can support this by talking with your child about these character traits as we progress through the year.

This book is listed under "Patriotism"

So under their program of teaching "character", recommending Harry Potter would be considered promoting witchcraft as a positive personal trait.  



Didn't claim to know everything...  But I do know what the Book of the Month Club is.  As far as patriotism goes, there are lots of texts that claim to be patriotic, but that appears to be in the eyes of the beholder, right?
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2009, 11:57:13 AM »

When I was a kid, they taught us about Washington.  When I was grown, I found out much of it was a fairy-tale.  I guess things don't change much.
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2009, 12:57:47 PM »

It has plenty to do with Faux Noise viewers and their distorted world view. 

 

Faux Noise, Faux Views, Faux Spews that stuff is sooooo funnnny????????? Scanner you are almost as clever as your mentor Olbermann. Why is it, that those on the left are in favor of diversity and tolerance as long is it doesn't consist of thought and opinion that diverges from their own? At that point they too often resort to condescension, derision, and name calling.  I have read your posts for some time now and  it occurs to me that in YOUR OPINION those who disagree with you ,as you say, have a distorted world view, are ignorant or are stupid.  You are arrogant my friend!  If you were as smart as you think you are you would realize that honest, intelligent, informed and well meaning people can disagree.
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2009, 01:24:58 PM »


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Perhaps you should check into the definition of "paranoid." One manifestation is a belief in vast conspiracies. That more or less characterizes the global warming deniers.
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Didn't Hillary Clinton say that Ol' Bill was the victim of a "vast right-wing conspiracy".  So glad you agree that the Clinton's are possibly  both paranoid.
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2009, 01:48:25 PM »

It has plenty to do with Faux Noise viewers and their distorted world view.  

 

Faux Noise, Faux Views, Faux Spews that stuff is sooooo funnnny????????? Scanner you are almost as clever as your mentor Olbermann. Why is it, that those on the left are in favor of diversity and tolerance as long is it doesn't consist of thought and opinion that diverges from their own? At that point they too often resort to condescension, derision, and name calling.  I have read your posts for some time now and  it occurs to me that in YOUR OPINION those who disagree with you ,as you say, have a distorted world view, are ignorant or are stupid.  You are arrogant my friend!  If you were as smart as you think you are you would realize that honest, intelligent, informed and well meaning people can disagree.


Gotta admit, I have very little tolerance for BS.  When you have a group of people whose primary source of info is a network owned by an Australian billionaire and chaired by a longtime Republican operative,  I can pretty quickly evaluate where they're coming from.

Faux has been a propaganda outlet for the repubs since it's inception.  There are  countless examples, just the latest being Hannity's faked crowd videos trying to inflate attendance at the latest Teabagger protest.  At an actual news outlet such deception would result in immediate dismissal. At Faux, it's just another oops, got caught.

As for "distorted views" being "name calling".  heck, I thought that was the Faux slogan  - "We Distort, You Comply"....







  
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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2009, 01:49:26 PM »

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Guess I'm educated beyond my collection of diplomas, because I sure as heck find some of the comments on here as entertaining....and accept few.  crazy2
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2009, 01:50:31 PM »

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Perhaps you should check into the definition of "paranoid." One manifestation is a belief in vast conspiracies. That more or less characterizes the global warming deniers.

Didn't Hillary Clinton say that Ol' Bill was the victim of a "vast right-wing conspiracy".  So glad you agree that the Clinton's are possibly  both paranoid.

Since a pair is two, they are together only a single paranoid.   Wink
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2009, 02:38:36 PM »



   "Gotta admit, I have very little tolerance for BS.  When you have a group of people whose primary source of info is a network owned by an Australian billionaire and chaired by a longtime Republican operative,  I can pretty quickly evaluate where they're coming from.

Faux has been a propaganda outlet for the repubs since it's inception.  There are  countless examples, just the latest being Hannity's faked crowd videos trying to inflate attendance at the latest Teabagger protest.  At an actual news outlet such deception would result in immediate dismissal. At Faux, it's just another oops, got caught.

As for "distorted views" being "name calling".  heck, I thought that was the Faux slogan  - "We Distort, You Comply"...."

    Well, It looks like the right wing has lost it's monopoly on conspiracy theories  Grin  would that be a Left wing theory there ?  Fox News is out to get us! They have infiltrated media and placed moles with in the bluedog party! Spys are every where,talk to no one to protect your self there, Scanner. You never know, those reporters may just steal your brain waves .

 
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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2009, 03:15:12 PM »

I’m neither a repub or a dem although I lean towards the libertarians. However, whether that title listed bush or obama it would still be propaganda.
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2009, 03:44:26 PM »

the teabagger quote makes me laugh.  That was a "slip" by cnn during the protests and picked up by other major networks to marginalize the tea-party movement.  The movement is real, that cannot be denied.
Also, faked pictures by Fox?  Funny you mention that because I remember some big fakes by the LA Times (made the front page), the AP, and the NY Times.
I remember NBC staging a truck explosion to make GM look bad over the recall of their trucks with side-saddle fuel tanks.  Something to do with using model rocket engines to ignite the spilled fuel in a staged crash.
CNN superimposed a picture of a child's face over a pumpkin being blown up by an ak-47 to add dramatic effect (I remember that news story clearly) so they could sell their gun control argument.  I also remember thinking they must have used some Hollywood techniques to make the pumpkin explode, since full metal jacket 7.62 rounds most definitely won't explode a pumpkin (too much air space in the gourd).  If you don't think that other networks have an agenda, you are beyond hope.  Remember that David Copperfield and all the other magicians use misdirection and illusion to show us what logic clearly says isn't possible.  The media is no different....
So,  keep believing the mainstream media, keep drinking that koolaid, keep those heads in the sand, and don't be bothered by the facts. 
By the way, I don't get my news from Fox exclusively.  I generally check many different sources, then I use my own common sense to ask "is this possible, is it real, what is the agenda here?"  Then I tend to research some more if I feel it's warranted.
Maybe the question isn't "am I paranoid" but more of "am I being paranoid enough".
Question everything. 

oh, this is an actual Reuters news photo, does that smoke look, um, photoshopped?
If you said yes, you are correct.  It was, and poorly done.   Anyone who has used the clone-stamp feature can see that.
Guess there wasn't enough smoke to make the pic look newsworthy enough.


for more fun, check this link:

http://michellemalkin.com/2005/04/18/times-photo-distortions/

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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2009, 04:05:05 PM »

As for "distorted views" being "name calling".  heck, I thought that was the Faux slogan  - "We Distort, You Comply"....




The Faux Noise,Spews,Views is name calling and is childish. I think it is symptomatic of your frustration with thoughts and opinions that are at variance with your own.  My reference to name calling was rhetorical not directed only to you but to the left in general. Obviously you have a different "world view" than many on this board and you assume theirs is distorted and yours is not. And you blame Fox for this.  I submit to you that a black man has a different "world view" than a white man.  That a young person has a different "world view" than the elderly.  A rural person's is different than an urbanite's. . . etc.  But I lack the huborous to think I get to  decide which is BS for them. I just know I disagree with some of them.

Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, Olbermann,  and Maddow don't deliver news.  They deliver opinion.   It is their intent to say provocative things even to the point of distortion. They are entertainers. That is why, I rarely watch them.   Fox is just as legitimate  as MSNBC.  MSNBC doesn't even feature weekend news programing. One slants left one slants right.  I consistently watch both, along with ABC. I want a variety of perspectives. It seems that you and I disagree on most things, but you give Fox New too much credit if you think they are the reason.
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