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Author Topic: Interesting interview with Snowden  (Read 570 times)
Robert
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« on: October 27, 2019, 05:11:31 PM »

Joe Rogan Experience #1368 - Edward Snowden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efs3QRr8LWw

Some main points from the interview from Zerohedge:

 I want to focus on some points he made that I found especially revealing, pertinent, and insightful.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/edward-snowden-and-turnkey-tyranny

2.  The American people are no longer partners of government.  We are subjects.  Our rights are routinely violated even as we become accustomed (or largely oblivious) to a form of turnkey tyranny.

3.  Intelligence agencies in the U.S. used 9/11 to enlarge their power.  They argued that 9/11 happened because there were “too many restrictions” on them.  This led to the PATRIOT Act and unconstitutional global mass surveillance, disguised as the price of being kept “safe” from terrorism.  Simultaneously, America’s 17 intelligence agencies wanted most of all not to be blamed for 9/11.  They wanted to ensure the buck stopped nowhere.  This was a goal they achieved.

4.  Every persuasive lie has a kernel of truth.  Terrorism does exist - that’s the kernel of truth.  Illegal mass surveillance, facilitated by nearly unlimited government power, in the cause of “keeping us safe” is the persuasive lie.

5.  The government uses classification (“Top Secret” and so on) primarily to hide things from the American people, who have no “need to know” in the view of government officials.  Secrecy becomes a cloak for illegality.  Government becomes unaccountable; the people don’t know, therefore we are powerless to rein in government excesses or to prosecute for abuses of power.

9. We live naked before power.  Companies like Facebook and Google, together with the U.S. government, know everything about us; we know little about them.  It’s supposed to be the reverse (at least in a democracy).

10.  “The system is built on lies.”  James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, lies under oath before Congress.  And there are no consequences.  He goes unpunished.

11.  We own less and less of our own data.  Data increasingly belongs to corporations and the government.  It’s become a commodity.  Which means we are the commodity.  We are being exploited and manipulated, we are being sold, and it’s all legal, because the powerful make the policies and the laws, and they are unaccountable to the people.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 05:15:13 PM by Robert » Logged

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2019, 08:28:16 PM »

There are those who say that the Silicon Valley Oligopoly was initially a well funded construct of the deep state...prrrobably not?? But they sure act like it...and anyway at this point it might already be too late to "stem that tidal wave". We All Must Voluntarily Sign on that "Give All My Rights Up" Dotted Line to participate in their products and services...and who here has not??...Email or call me on your cell phone and tell me why I'm wrong.  Smiley
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 09:45:16 PM by 7th_son » Logged

Say what you mean, Mean what you say.
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