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Anthony
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« on: December 09, 2009, 03:50:52 AM »

i am looking for a safe a & stable way to suspend my valk, to do maintenance and thorough cleaning (winter fun).

what is the best way to attach to ?
the central beam beneath the riders sadle ?
can you lift both wheels of the ground ?

or are the straps going to be in my way bothering to work on the bike ?

i have a motorcycle lift that goes under the engine,
but it is in the way when i want to take of the pipes, clean the bottom of the bike (yes i can be that crazy)
it does not go high enough to take out the rear wheel without removing the rear fender and hard bag rear rail, ...

Thanks in Advance,
Anthony
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frosty
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 05:58:37 AM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170415165536&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT
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BF
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 06:31:11 AM »

Sounds like you're looking more for a lift table than a lift/jack.  A table will get it high enough to work on it without stooping over......and some of them have detachable pieces on the table that will allow for removing the rear tire. 

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=TPPROCYCLE%2DDT

http://www.derekweaver.com/update/Pro-Cycle_Droptail_XLT__Motorcycle_Lifts_Product.aspx?id=11

http://www.completehydraulic.com/lifts-motorcycle-tcml.html

http://www.kendonusa.com/lift.htm#Chopper_Lift
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Farther
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 07:16:16 AM »

Someone mentioned in the current jack thread that they use an engine hoist.  Maybe that person will comment.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 08:14:04 AM »

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,10697.0.html

Read through this topic and you will get a good idea as to what is available.  It sounds like you want to lift your bike fairly high and as mentioned someone talk about using an engine hoist to accomplish that by lifting on the frame and steering head.  If you elect to follow this method you may want to devise a mechanical lock on the hoist to safeguard against a hydraulic failure or human error.  

Colin in Spain provides a link to a supplier in Germany that offers paddock style stands at a reasonable cost that may suit your needs as they take up less room under the bike than the jack style lifts.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 08:33:29 AM »

i am looking for a safe a & stable way to suspend my valk, to do maintenance and thorough cleaning (winter fun).

what is the best way to attach to ?
the central beam beneath the riders sadle ?
can you lift both wheels of the ground ?

or are the straps going to be in my way bothering to work on the bike ?

i have a motorcycle lift that goes under the engine,
but it is in the way when i want to take of the pipes, clean the bottom of the bike (yes i can be that crazy)
it does not go high enough to take out the rear wheel without removing the rear fender and hard bag rear rail, ...

Thanks in Advance,
Anthony

I dont know what kind of M/C or ATV jack you have but everyone I have used easily gets the bike high enough to remove the rear wheel without having to take the fender off.  I have also changed out exhausts with the bike on the jack no problem....I currently have a Sears Craftsman
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 08:45:35 AM »

I have the same jack as ChrisJ and it raises my valk high enough for me to sit on a 5 gallon bucket while working on the bike.

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 11:37:44 AM »

This is by far the best lift on the market today.
www.on-bike.com/products_bigblue.htm
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 11:44:51 AM »

I wonder how easy it would be to reposition the rear wheel on the splines when the bike is free to swing around.  It would also make loosening and tightening some nuts/bolts difficult.  I think I'd prefer having the bike connected to something more solid than a chain.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 12:35:32 PM »

I agree. Looks like you would be trying to chase the bike down to work on it.  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 02:08:00 PM »

I can stand under my Valk using this lift...works for me.



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Anthony
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 03:07:22 PM »

the lift i found on this side of the pond (Torin Atlas) raises the engine about 40 cm (16") off the floor in its highest blocked position.
that is not enough to roll the rear wheel underneath the bottom rear rail under the rear fender.
wiggling it, tilting as much as the swing arm allows gets it done, but i am looking for a nicer, higher setup.

i already have removed the pipes while on that lift, but i had to be very carefull not denting it against the hydr cylinder bridge on the right side.
to me, another reason to look for a setup that leaves more free room.
 


i don't want to lose to much garage floor space to a big table, so i thought suspending it from the ceiling was the way to go : a steel H beam attached to the ceiling, a trolley to be able to move to the preferred place and a chain block to lift it manually.

How to keep it stable was exactly my main concern, that's my reason for posting the question here, looking if someone can share experiences.
what if i would add 2 straps from the engine guard to 2 floor points to prevent it from swinging/rotating ?
TiA,
Anthony


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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 03:34:44 PM »

WAY TO GO REDLINE...I REALLY LIKE YOURS   lol
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 05:11:54 PM »

"i don't want to lose to much garage floor space to a big table, so i thought suspending it from the ceiling was the way to go :"



In that case, if you're wanting a table lift and space is an issue, then this might be what you're looking for.  

http://www.kendonusa.com/lift.htm#Chopper_Lift

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And in case your wondering if the table top being narrow is unsafe compaired to a table with a wider top, the footprint of the lift is the same as one of the Handy table lifts.  Just the table top is narrow...not the feet/support on the ground.  

http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2136739&postcount=10

That page was taken from this forum....

http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189513&highlight=kendon


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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 06:27:33 AM »

I can stand under my Valk using this lift...works for me.



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I can't believe you would use this in its pictured configuration.  You have plenty of c-clamps in the back, but absolutely none on the front.  Fix that before you get hurt, or worse, drop the bike!

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Anthony
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2009, 06:53:15 AM »

i guess i'll better forget the suspending idea and get me one of those table lifts.

i'll look if i can get one of those kendons over here at reasonable cost.

thanks for the info !

Anthony
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 09:02:17 AM »

WAY TO GO REDLINE...I REALLY LIKE YOURS   lol

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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 09:29:46 AM »

I can stand under my Valk using this lift...works for me.



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I can't believe you would use this in its pictured configuration.  You have plenty of c-clamps in the back, but absolutely none on the front.  Fix that before you get hurt, or worse, drop the bike!

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Thanks for your concern. On the front there is a bolt thru the forklift fork securing the "red" adapter. At the rear two large c-clamps secure the adapter. On the left side there is a strap from the top of the Valk frame to the forklift. It's very solid, I wouldn't lift my Valk if it wasn't safe. In my opinion, this configuration is as safe or safer than some I've seen posted. Thanks again for your concern for my safety and more importantly the safety of my Valk.

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