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Adirondack Bill
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« on: February 19, 2020, 10:01:37 AM »

Well, I never thought this time would come, but I have been thinking of trading in my Valk. I bought it new in the spring of 2014 when they were first rolled out, and I paid top dollar- over 17K.  I love this bike, but I have done all the mods I wanted and I am itching for a new ride. I still enjoy riding it, but I have had it 6 years and the time seems right. I guess the reason I have kept it so long is that  I have not seen anything that compares to the Valk for comfort, performance, and reliability.  I have kind of taken a shine to a sport-tourer the Kawasaki Concours.  I like that it has over 140 ponies and over 100 ft. Pounds of torque.  It is a 6 speed and costs less than my Valk did 6 years ago! Has anyone had any experiences with a Concours?
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Promagnaman
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2020, 11:19:33 AM »

My friend has a 1400 Connie. It is one powerful machine. He has it tricked out nicely with a Corbin seat, risers, pegs, top case, and some performance mods. I can’t keep up with him on my 2000 Interstate or my 2014 Valkyrie, but I have a lot of fun trying.
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Adirondack Bill
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2020, 11:48:48 AM »

Yes Promagnaman, I know what you are saying.  It has a crotch-rocket motor on a touring frame. I guess I'm weird, but when I buy a new bike, I don't like to go backwards in horsepower and torque.
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bscrive
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Out with the old...in with the wooohoooo!!!!

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2020, 05:23:07 AM »

I almost bought a connie back in 2015 when I was looking for a new bike.  They are an awesome bike and you can't go wrong.  The only thing that stopped me was the riding position.  I like the laid back riding position I have with the valk.  The connie is too leaned over for me.
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ledany
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2020, 06:13:59 AM »

Well I know I shall never say this, because the Valk is almost untradable !  Evil If I ever wanted to sell my 2014 Valk with 81,000 mls on the clock, the very best I could get is 6,500$  Embarrassed

If I really thought about a new bike, it would be the R 1250 RT which is much more expensive and with expen$$$ive maintenance costs. The new GoldWing bagger DCT is nice but there's no rush buying it. Wink
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st2sam
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2020, 08:32:30 AM »




I had a 2009. I put over 60,000 trouble free miles on  cooldude,  I traded it in for the Valk..
Awesome bike, buy one, you won't regret it.

2020 will be the last year,
 lots of good info here > http://concours.org/



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Adirondack Bill
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2020, 12:45:47 PM »

bscrive: I can't find one in my area to sit on to get a feel of the riding position. During the winter,  dealer inventories are limited. I will have to wait a couple months for warmer weather and for dealer inventories to grow. I also like a more laid back position like our Valks have. I  also put 2 inch risers on mine to pull the bars back further. I was not aware the Connie had a more upright seating position. I wonder if risers would help on the connie?
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Adirondack Bill
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2020, 12:56:50 PM »

st2sam: Are you saying  2020 is the last year for the Connie?  Why is it, that ever bike I buy (like our Valk),  ends up  being extinct?  In 2017, I bought a new Yamaha 950 scrambler,  they were only made for 2 years.
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st2sam
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2020, 05:48:36 PM »

st2sam: Are you saying  2020 is the last year for the Connie? 

From what I've read. (?)
AND, I believe It is no longer sold in Europe.

It has a standard riding position that is very comfortable.
If you want a laid back cruiser riding position look elsewhere.
(5yr. 60thou. mi. owner)

Click on the link I supplied, go to the 1400 section.
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bscrive
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2020, 06:12:33 AM »

bscrive: I can't find one in my area to sit on to get a feel of the riding position. During the winter,  dealer inventories are limited. I will have to wait a couple months for warmer weather and for dealer inventories to grow. I also like a more laid back position like our Valks have. I  also put 2 inch risers on mine to pull the bars back further. I was not aware the Connie had a more upright seating position. I wonder if risers would help on the connie?

You can get 2" risers for the Connie, but I don't think that you will get near the riding position of the Valk unless you have long arms.  Not sure if you can double up on the risers.  The cables may not be long enough.  Probably best to head over to the Concours forum and see what people have done.

Although, everyone is different.  I found that I had weight on my rists when I rode one.  I am not sure if 2" risers would have done much for me.  When I rode one, I found that my body was tilted a little forward.  The one I tried was a 2015 model, but I don't think that they have changed them at all since then.
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GRR
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2020, 07:47:50 PM »

I rarely read this board, but just happened across your post. I can't compare the Concours to your 1800, but I just sold my 1500 interstate to pick up a 2008 Concours ABS, and can provide some comparison between those two.
I rode a GL 1800 for a couple of years, so have some experience with the GL 1800 platfrom.

So these remarks are about a 12 y/o Kawi compared to 20 y/o Honda. Both were ground-breaking when new.

The Connie is spec'd to weigh more than the Interstate, but unless it falls over, it feels just the opposite. I handles like a much smaller and lighter bike, and is much more nimble that the GL. The GL is ponderous in comparison and much harder to haul around corners.

The Connie has significantly more power, torque and responsiveness in the engine and transmission, which  includes a 6th/overdrive. It cruises in low-3k region at 70mph. The engine with stock (ugly) exhaust is nearly silent, in contrast to the transmission whine of the GL. It pulls as hard if not much harder than the GL, but continues on right up to the 10k rpm redline.

The Connie has linked brakes, which many complain about, but I don't race and don't have any objection to them. I haven't had occasion to test the ABS, but like that it is there. The brakes are easy, responsive and powerful. The GL brake feel has more in common with HD.

Ergonomics on the Connie are typical sport-touring, with weight on your wrists. If you don't like that, you can add risers, pull-backs or very expensive adjustable Heli-bars to give you a more upright posture.

The upright & beg position of the GL had me wanting a driver backrest. Whole-body wind protection on the Connie is better than on the Interstate, and significantly better than on the naked or touring versions.

Like the GL, there are not many options for alternative footpegs, and highway pegs are difficult to install. Leg angle bend is about the same on both bikes.

I really like the electric windshield on the Connie, whereas the Interstate doesn't move. I cut down the stock Interstate shield to look better, it made highway speeds objectionably noisy. After adding a VStream windshield to the Connie, it is now the quietest of any bike I've ever owned. The interstate has included engine guards which work very well in protecting the entire bike. The Connie has none, and tip-overs can ruin every painted part ($$).

Unlike the attractive saddlebags on the GL, the Connie saddlebags are ugly but amazingly capable, useful and easy to open or remove. The GL has a 7 gal tank but 35 mpg gets you 200 miles and change. The Connie has a 5.8 gal tank but it lasts about the same distance.

I never thought I'd need it, but I really like the gear-indicator on the Connie. It has dual, easily-adjustable headlights, an integrated power outlet on the dash and a convenient glove box.

The Connie has tire pressure sensors, which is nicely reassuring. Many don't like the remote, keyless key-fob ignition, but I don't see why, and find it quite easy to use. It's no different than most modern cars.

The Connie has a center stand, whereas the Interstate does not, and rear wheel changes are a challenge. Connie suspension adjustments are easy to make, although many dis the factory units. They work fine for me. The Connie seat pops right off to get to tools, battery and fuses. The Interstate seat requires tools to remove.

The only serious negative I know of against the Connie is the valve check and adjustment procedure. On the GL, you can check valves in under an  hour. Doing the same on the Connie will take a skilled owner an entire weekend or more, as all the bodywork has to be removed. Adjusting the valves will add a bit more time if you have the shims, or mail-order time if you don't. Thankfully, the valve check interval is 24k miles. The Connie has a timing chain; the GL has belts.  The GL carbs can be inexpensively re-jetted; the Connie ECU can be sent out to be reprogrammed for $300-400.

Visually, I've always admired and enjoyed the great looks of the 50's styled GL Interstate. The Kawi is not the prettiest, but it is growing on me. The Connie can carry a passenger. The GL will carry a passenger in greater comfort and style.

In closing, the GL makes me feel older than I am and makes me think I could have taken the Oldsmobile; the Kawi makes me feel younger than I am, and makes me think I should have taken the longer road. Smiley

HTH, Gary


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Adirondack Bill
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2020, 10:14:27 AM »

Gary,  thanks for taking the time to give me such detailed feedback. I am hoping we have an early spring here in upstate New York so I can get serious about a new bike. No dealer in my immediate area has a Connie I can check out. The closest one available is 100 miles away. The Connie has a lot of little options which are appealing, I am just worried about the seating position. I have been on cruisers for over 30 years.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2020, 04:50:06 PM »



Many longtime 1500 Valkyrie riders are going this sport tourer route be it FJR - Connie and others Me, I have gone the DCT wing route. Pure Joy is all I can say.


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Robert
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2020, 06:41:09 PM »

Connie is a great bike and almost bought one but did not find the riding position comfortable.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2020, 09:32:26 PM »

Never cared for the Connie.  If I get rid of the Valk, Ill get one of the new plain Wings, not the Tour.  The weight of the bike is the same.
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