new motorcycle shed...

[The emperor has no clothes]

Looks really good 

[Deerslayer]

Nice Job !

The corbel brackets at the gable are fantastic... a real classy touch.

..Slayer

[GiG]

"Corbel Brackets at the Bracket are Fantastic"   

-  Soon to be a YouTube mega-hit song by hupscrap 

[hubcapsc]

It doesn't look a lot different from last time, but I've worked myself silly on
it a few days. The "shelf rafter" is up on the back wall, which required
putting the sheathing on the back wall and fiddling around with
the scaffolding.  I went to the Big Box store and got some plywood, 20
sheets of tin and and 26 14 foot long yellow pine 2x6s for the skip
sheathing on the roof...







The laurel is blooming down on the creek, me and Carolyn and the dog went
down there this morning and recorded some guitar playing  ... back when I
was living in the college dorms (the 70s) there were some songs everyone
wanted to learn... Blackbird... Here Comes The Sun... Stairway To Heaven...
Here's Blackbird from this morning...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0zBsY2yWfU

-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

Always loved that song.   the shed is really taking shape.


What are the triangular foam shapes for ?

[hubcapsc]

What are the triangular foam shapes for ?

They match the slope of my house's roof, which is "standing seam", and they have slots
in them that align with the seams. I use them when I go up on the roof, I have "steps" and
flat places to stand...

-Mike

[Jess from VA]

Thanks for the update and the songs. 

I'm wondering, are you banging in every nail with a hammer, or using a gun?  (I don't see tools in the pictures)

I banged in all my deck 3 1/2" twist nails with a big framing hammer (that's not entirely true, a small percentage of them were badly mangled and thrown away). 

It was a lot more work than I had imagined.   

[hubcapsc]

I'm wondering, are you banging in every nail with a hammer, or using a gun?

I'll get in trouble for this. Screws. Often into pre-drilled holes... The gable end
angle brackets are carriage bolted to the framing. I like screws and 2x4s, though
a building inspector wouldn't let you frame your house with screws. I screwed
this roof together 15 years ago, it is solid and has been through lots of storms...



I don't usually take pictures while I'm working so stuff is generally
put up by then...

-Mike

[Bighead]

Mike F the inspector ( I know you live rural so no inspection) but screws are far superior to a smoth shank nail anyday.

[hubcapsc]

Mike F the inspector ( I know you live rural so no inspection) but screws are far superior to a smoth shank nail anyday.

Their technical thing is that screws are brittle and lack shear strength.

-Mike "I like screws sometimes though  "

[Bighead]

That is a true statement because a smooth nail will slide in a shear force. But I stiil would prefer them.

[Jess from VA]

My deck needs some new planks in replacement.  I badly wish they were held in with screws, as opposed to having to dig/pull out 3 1/2" galvanized twist nails, which are a royal PITA to pull out.  Especially since I tow-nailed in each 8' 2X4 all along the edge, before nailing them from the top. 

So I'm not replacing them; instead I'm nailing some one-by stock over the damage and covering a few holes with some big flagstone rocks (which pisses off the mice), and calling it good.  It looks like hell, but I never use the deck anyway.  It's principle purpose today is to cut down on how much grass I must mow in the backyard (it sits on the ground).

It needs power-washed and stained again too, and I'm not doing that either.

For years, I kept that thing looking like a new gymnasium floor, back when I had the energy and motivation for such nonsense.

[Hook#3287]

Mike F the inspector ( I know you live rural so no inspection) but screws are far superior to a smoth shank nail anyday.

Their technical thing is that screws are brittle and lack shear strength.

-Mike "I like screws sometimes though  "

These:

https://www.strongtie.com/strongdrive_exteriorwoodscrews/sdws-q_screw/p/strong-drive-sdws-framing-screw


Expensive, but excellent.   I used them on the triple decker porch I just did.

I didn't use the "Simpson" brand, some other brand, but these puppies do it.  They'll suck a twisted 2x straight.

The standard ceramic deck screws are good for decking and extra support in structural situations but are brittle and have no shear strength.  Something a building needs in high wind.

Mike, the shed looks awesome, nice craftsmanship.



 

[hubcapsc]

I can't believe it rained for two weeks! Anywho... got some skip sheathing up
on the shed finally...



I have a song filled with attitudinally challenged people... I call
it The Fyou Song... I'd like to dedicate it to all the looters and
arsonists out there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GwnRaR217U

-Mike

[Jess from VA]

  on the song.

But, it's hard to tell if you're serious or pulling our leg.  (or some of each)

[hubcapsc]

on the song.

But, it's hard to tell if you're serious or pulling our leg.  (or some of each)

I'm not sure what you mean about the leg pulling... the song started out
after I'd seen some properties with so many NO TRESSPASSING signs that
it made me laugh to myself about how they seemed more like F-U signs...
a particular one was a run-down place with a yard full of trash... man alive!
I wish I could go there!

After the song got going I made up a couple more verses... looking back,
the whole song seems to be about people with an antisocial bent... the
looters and rioters are much lower than that... scum... but I don't have
a scum song to dedicate to them...

-Mike

[Valkorado]

Gotta get to stop sign, but I'll get there before you.  

 

Nice shed.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The looters and rioters are much lower than that... scum... but I don't have
a scum song to dedicate to them...

-Mike

I very jealous of people who have artistic talents. I have none. Can’t even draw a good stick figure. I hope you don’t get inspired to dedicate a song to them although. 

[Jess from VA]

I'm not sure what you mean about the leg pulling

Well what I meant (leg pulling) was, you were singing you posted your property, but you really wouldn't do that.

My brother bought 17 acres across the main road from his 20 acres, just to build a runway for his light aircraft.  After an unbelievable amount of work making it, a bunch of ATVs and dirt bikes immediately began tearing his runway up.  It's far enough away from his house, it's pretty hard to police.  When he told me about it, I strongly suggested he post the property (the legal way) because that would/should discourage the trespassers, and would make it (much) easier to call the cops in on violators (if he had to).

He didn't want to do that (and didn't) because he felt it violated the good neighbor policy he had with all his neighbors (essentially telling them all... FU).  The trespassers were not neighbors.  I didn't see it that way, but he did.  

So instead he took his monster fork lift (that will pick up big trucks), and picked up huge long tree trunks, and put them around the perimeter of the strip, and blocked all the trails in, and that did the trick.  

He buys old junked equipment (for peanuts), brings it home, and rebuilds it back to usefulness.  (last time I was up there, he had a small road grater... which is still huge)

[hubcapsc]

could you record your videos with a little more volume? my puter speakers are at 100% and so is my Youtube volume, and yet i can barley here you. thanks for posting, i like watching your project getting built.

I learned about "audio normalization" on the acousticguitarforum
yesterday and figured out how to do it with the command-line
video editor that I use... technically, "Audio normalization is the
application of a constant amount of gain to an audio recording to
bring the amplitude to a target level". This would probably wreck an
audiophile recording, but it just makes my stuff louder  ...

Here's the Kia song with enhanced volume.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOlIs_iZC0

... compared to the original too-quiet version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsER4axHdmw

-Mike

[hubcapsc]

It has been almost a month since I put anything in here. Lots of things
going on, I guess. Lots of afternoon rain. Some days all I do on the
shed is sweep the water off the deck  ... Building the roof, though,
is slow work for me. Climbing around up there, not falling off, stuff like
that. I finally got the last of the skip sheathing up and have progressed
to putting up the tin!  ... here's a picture. If it looks kind of
cattywhompered, it's because I made it as one of those "panoramic"
pictures on my iphone, you can see the walls (sheathing all around now)
and both sides of the roof, from inside.



They have a section over on the acousticguitarforum that is like
our "general" section here - people talk about anything there. There's
a thread there now about chicken farms. It reminded me of a Gilbert
Shelton cartoon strip called "Set My Chickens Free". A long time ago
I set the words to "Set My Chickens Free" to music...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsIs80tUkCw

-Mike

[Jess from VA]

Hey Mike I'm curious about the open vents along the bottom? 

Don't fall off that thing.   

[hubcapsc]

Hey Mike I'm curious about the open vents along the bottom? 

Don't fall off that thing.   

I've got some treated-for-ground-contact plywood I'll use for the part
near the ground. Plus, leaving it open until I get the tin up allows me
to sweep out water after a rain pretty easily. The marine plywood floor
sure is holding up well anyhow...

-Mike

[hubcapsc]

It was a little creepy putting up the last sheet of tin at the edge, but it is there.
I put the one you see in this picture up while standing on those little steps,
they sucked.



I formed up the ridge cap, and it is up too. It is continuous, 19 feet long. As you
can imagine, a 19 foot long piece of tin like that doesn't want to hold its shape,
I put a 15 foot long spline board up inside of it and hauled it up the ladder and
up the non-tinned side of the roof like a waiter going through a restaurant with
a too-big tray of food  ...



-Mike

[msb]

Always nice to see another post with some progress made on the shed, and another song....it means you haven't fallen off    How did you get that last piece of tin in place.....work your way down those steps, removing one at a time? I'm typically OK with heights, but now comfortably into my 60's, I don't always trust my agility as much as I used to when getting into tight spots up on the roof and such.

[hubcapsc]

now comfortably into my 60's

Me too.

I don't always trust my agility

Me neither... but you gotta do what you gotta do. The scaffolding
walkboards are INDUSTRIAL strength non slip, their aluminum surface
is ridged to the max. I have a lightweight 6 foot ladder with plastic/rubber
feet. I leaned it against the next to last piece of tin and stood on each
successive ladder rung, fastening the last piece of tin as I went.



-Mike

[Valkorado]

  Yikes, my vertigo kicks in just looking at that pic!

[..]

They need you in France to help rebuild Notre Dame!

[Farside]

  I've been following your post and you've done an outstanding job plus you didn't get hurt  so IMHO, U R The Man  You'd be able to park a tank in there and keep it good and dry too! Very nice and can't wait to see the totally finished job

[msb]

Me neither... but you gotta do what you gotta do.

-Mike

 

[Jess from VA]

I try to work around jobs like this anymore.


If you fall down, it's not gonna buff out.  

Slow and steady wins the prize (of not falling down).  

Hey kid, you want to make $10 an hour.....   No. 

[Mn. Norseman]

Pretty sure I know what that yellow sticker on the side of the ladder says. It should say be careful and don't fall off.
Nice looking shed.

[hubcapsc]

Yahoo! The roof is done  ...



I fixed a little ramp, I'm going to roll the black bike in there tomorrow and
put the good 1500 Valkyrie bars back on it.

-Mike

[Valkorado]

You're a talented fellow.   

Much nicer than my 5k 10x20 Mennonite made one.

[..]

Yahoo! The roof is done  ...



I fixed a little ramp, I'm going to roll the black bike in there tomorrow and
put the good 1500 Valkyrie bars back on it.

-Mike

 

[Jess from VA]

Nice roof.   

Mike, I'm not trying to be too be too nosy, but can you give us an idea of how much more a metal roof costs than shingle?

Inquiring minds, you know. 

[hubcapsc]

Nice roof.   

Mike, I'm not trying to be too be too nosy, but can you give us an idea of how much more a metal roof costs than shingle?

Inquiring minds, you know. 

There's a lot of different kinds of metal roofs... I used 19 "5 v crimp" panels @ about $22.00 per panel.

I hand formed a standing seam roof out of 20 or 30 (I don't remember exactly now)  50-foot rolls of
galvanized metal on our house, about $30 a roll then. I priced copper, it would have been about $300
a roll then. And the labor would have been ten or twenty thousand dollars  ...

People generally get those painted ridged panels when they put metal on their house, held down
with screws like my 5-v crimp panels, I'm pretty sure labor and material on a "normal" metal roof like
that is somewhere in the same ballpark as a good shingle roof.

-Mike

[Chrisj CMA]

Beautiful. Are you going to have Windows?

[hubcapsc]

Beautiful. Are you going to have Windows?

Thanks! Yep, I already have them. Two awning (crank out) windows for the back wall. I also
already have an exhaust fan with a variable speed controller for the back wall, up in the
lower part of the gable end. And I have a line on 100+ feet of 2/0-2/0-2/0 wire to run the 100 amp
circuit to the building - at a real good price  ...



I put the 1500 Valkyrie bars back on the black bike today. A storm raged, I was dead set
on getting the roof finished yesterday. The roof passed the test! Water spashed in through
the big hole in the front wall where the double doors will go, I swept it out. When I
broke for supper the floor was dry, and I afixed a 4x8 sheet good in the door frame. It stormed
again during supper and I went up to check... the 4x8 did a good job of keeping the water
out. I've picked out the doors, I need to order them now that the roof is done.

-Mike

[msb]

Beautiful. Are you going to have Windows?

Thanks! Yep, I already have them. Two awning (crank out) windows for the back wall. I also
already have an exhaust fan with a variable speed controller for the back wall, up in the
lower part of the gable end. And I have a line on 100+ feet of 2/0-2/0-2/0 wire to run the 100 amp
circuit to the building - at a real good price  ...



I put the 1500 Valkyrie bars back on the black bike today. A storm raged, I was dead set
on getting the roof finished yesterday. The roof passed the test! Water spashed in through
the big hole in the front wall where the double doors will go, I swept it out. When I
broke for supper the floor was dry, and I afixed a 4x8 sheet good in the door frame. It stormed
again during supper and I went up to check... the 4x8 did a good job of keeping the water
out. I've picked out the doors, I need to order them now that the roof is done.

-Mike

Very cozy.... what location have you got picked out for the mini-fridge? 
Very impressive btw, especially for a one-man job