Unemployment/Covid 19

[Robert]

You know everyone talks about the deaths and terror of Covid 19 but no one talks about the fact that unemployment is not able to process all the applications for unemployment and many cannot even get through to the offices.

That is just as much a crisis as the Covid, but we dont say anything about this do they. The promises are on the way and unemployment has been temporarly raised but that does no good if you cannot get it.

 Everyone who talks about getting Covid and worried about humanity, so what are you going to do for these people who are totally cut off and have little to no money?

This is just wrong and makes me mad at those who want to keep the country shut down. The goverment was never meant to turn on a dime in situations like this.  



After one month of coronavirus lockdown, more than 50% of Los Angeles is now unemployed
https://www.businessinsider.com/more-than-50-los-angeles-workers-unemployed-due-to-coronavirus-2020-4


U.S. now has 22 million unemployed.

You who projected the devistation way out of proportion to the real stats should be held accountable.

This to me is more worrisome than the virus.

This is why the response should have been measured and should have made each responsible for their own saftey.

[Valkorado]

At an extra $600/wk many will have an incentive to get on UI , but not too get off it.

[Robert]

At an extra $600/wk many will have an incentive to get on UI , but not too get off it.

Its only a temporary boost will end of May.

[scooperhsd]

You know everyone talks about the deaths and terror of Covid 19 but no one talks about the fact that unemployment is not able to process all the applications for unemployment and many cannot even get through to the offices.

That is just as much a crisis as the Covid, but we dont say anything about this do they. The promises are on the way and unemployment has been temporarly raised but that does no good if you cannot get it.

 Everyone who talks about getting Covid and worried about humanity, so what are you going to do for these people who are totally cut off and have little to no money?

This is just wrong and makes me mad at those who want to keep the country shut down. The goverment was never meant to turn on a dime in situations like this. 



After one month of coronavirus lockdown, more than 50% of Los Angeles is now unemployed
https://www.businessinsider.com/more-than-50-los-angeles-workers-unemployed-due-to-coronavirus-2020-4


U.S. now has 22 million unemployed.

You who projected the devistation way out of proportion to the real stats should be held accountable.

This to me is more worrisome than the virus.

This is why the response should have been measured and should have made each responsible for their own saftey.

I don't know about your area's TV stations, but it has been a big item here in the KC area since people started getting unemployed and then not able to login - the state of Kansas had to do an emergency purchase upgrade of their 1977 mainframe to handle all the incoming UI requests, as well as move a couple hundred employees from other departments to handle the call volume.

[..]

At an extra $600/wk many will have an incentive to get on UI , but not too get off it.

April 4 to July 31.

[Valkorado]

At an extra $600/wk many will have an incentive to get on UI , but not too get off it.

April 4 to July 31.

Four months at $600 extra a week.   For many,  that is incentive.   They'll save the "extra" and remain on UI after the CARES funds dry up.  Add in food stamps and they're riding high on the hog.

[GiG]

You know everyone talks about the deaths and terror of Covid 19 but no one talks about the fact that unemployment is not able to process all the applications for unemployment and many cannot even get through to the offices.

That is just as much a crisis as the Covid, but we dont say anything about this do they. The promises are on the way and unemployment has been temporarly raised but that does no good if you cannot get it.

 Everyone who talks about getting Covid and worried about humanity, so what are you going to do for these people who are totally cut off and have little to no money?

This is just wrong and makes me mad at those who want to keep the country shut down. The goverment was never meant to turn on a dime in situations like this. 



After one month of coronavirus lockdown, more than 50% of Los Angeles is now unemployed
https://www.businessinsider.com/more-than-50-los-angeles-workers-unemployed-due-to-coronavirus-2020-4


U.S. now has 22 million unemployed.

You who projected the devistation way out of proportion to the real stats should be held accountable.

This to me is more worrisome than the virus.

This is why the response should have been measured and should have made each responsible for their own saftey.

I don't know about your area's TV stations, but it has been a big item here in the KC area since people started getting unemployed and then not able to login - the state of Kansas had to do an emergency purchase upgrade of their 1977 mainframe to handle all the incoming UI requests, as well as move a couple hundred employees from other departments to handle the call volume.

It's being talked about plenty, maybe just not so much on the conspiracy theory websites...  

[..]

At an extra $600/wk many will have an incentive to get on UI , but not too get off it.

April 4 to July 31.

Four months at $600 extra a week.   For many,  that is incentive.   They'll save the "extra" and remain on UI after the CARES funds dry up.  Add in food stamps and they're riding high on the hog.

I can't see many saving the extra.

Now if the next stimulus of an extra $2,000 a month happens there might be a little saving going on.

[Gavin_Sons]

At an extra $600/wk many will have an incentive to get on UI , but not too get off it.

April 4 to July 31.

Four months at $600 extra a week.   For many,  that is incentive.   They'll save the "extra" and remain on UI after the CARES funds dry up.  Add in food stamps and they're riding high on the hog.

I can't see many saving the extra.

Now if the next stimulus of an extra $2,000 a month happens there might be a little saving going on.

Im saving my 600 extra a week. Adding it to the 3400 stimulus. Should have plenty to take the family on a nice vacation this fall or next summer on the governments dime  might even a a couple pieces to the arsenal.

[cookiedough]

At an extra $600/wk many will have an incentive to get on UI , but not too get off it.

April 4 to July 31.

Four months at $600 extra a week.   For many,  that is incentive.   They'll save the "extra" and remain on UI after the CARES funds dry up.  Add in food stamps and they're riding high on the hog.

I can't see many saving the extra.

Now if the next stimulus of an extra $2,000 a month happens there might be a little saving going on.

Im saving my 600 extra a week. Adding it to the 3400 stimulus. Should have plenty to take the family on a nice vacation this fall or next summer on the governments dime  might even a a couple pieces to the arsenal.

I am with Gavin on this save the extra 600 per week for the 3-4 weeks I will get it thru May not working that will be around 2K in my pocket to do what I want with it from fixing up cycles to taking off more work and actually taking a vacation,  that is if the company does not fold first?     I tried not to be a smarty pants, but told the boss if the other 2 ladies want all of April and May to take all my weeks and I will sit at home not working and make more money NOT working.     Is the only way I will get what I deserved over 1 year ago from the company.

[Robert]

Glad you two are in a good position, much better than many, at least that will be 2 less to worry about. I'm sure you guys also may want to help someone else who is not so fortunate.

 

[Robert]

It's being talked about plenty, maybe just not so much on the conspiracy theory websites...   

Thanks for posting here and getting off those sites, you could probably learn more here.

[MarkT]

Perfect answer for the left, to POTUS re-election being assured thx to the strong economy.  There are those who are happy for the country to sink if it means winning in November.  W/O the economy tanked, Joe's chances about like a snowball's in Hell.  Scary viewpoint but a consequence of our polarized world.  Like "cutting off your nose to spite your face."  Wherever that came from.

[Gavin_Sons]

Glad you two are in a good position, much better than many, at least that will be 2 less to worry about. I'm sure you guys also may want to help someone else who is not so fortunate.

 

Why would i want to help someone that is not responsible with money? Just shoo they can go blow mine? I don't think so.  I work hard to be where I'm at. No one helped me get here. This was my own doing.  For you to suggest i give money away is just stupid. Give your own money away and leave mine out of it. I didnt get here by giving my money away to irresponsible people and that has me sitting pretty good right now in this crisis.

[3fan4life]

Glad you two are in a good position, much better than many, at least that will be 2 less to worry about. I'm sure you guys also may want to help someone else who is not so fortunate.

 

Why would i want to help someone that is not responsible with money? Just shoo they can go blow mine? I don't think so.  I work hard to be where I'm at. No one helped me get here. This was my own doing.  For you to suggest i give money away is just stupid. Give your own money away and leave mine out of it. I didnt get here by giving my money away to irresponsible people and that has me sitting pretty good right now in this crisis.

Well you're a much more responsible man than me.

In my younger days I gave away alot of my money to strippers. 

[Gavin_Sons]

Glad you two are in a good position, much better than many, at least that will be 2 less to worry about. I'm sure you guys also may want to help someone else who is not so fortunate.

 

Why would i want to help someone that is not responsible with money? Just shoo they can go blow mine? I don't think so.  I work hard to be where I'm at. No one helped me get here. This was my own doing.  For you to suggest i give money away is just stupid. Give your own money away and leave mine out of it. I didnt get here by giving my money away to irresponsible people and that has me sitting pretty good right now in this crisis.

Well you're a much more responsible man than me.

In my younger days I gave away alot of my money to strippers. 

  i have never been in a strip club. Why pay for something you can get for free?

[Wizzard]

Glad you two are in a good position, much better than many, at least that will be 2 less to worry about. I'm sure you guys also may want to help someone else who is not so fortunate.

 

Why would i want to help someone that is not responsible with money? Just shoo they can go blow mine? I don't think so.  I work hard to be where I'm at. No one helped me get here. This was my own doing.  For you to suggest i give money away is just stupid. Give your own money away and leave mine out of it. I didnt get here by giving my money away to irresponsible people and that has me sitting pretty good right now in this crisis.

Well you're a much more responsible man than me.

In my younger days I gave away alot of my money to strippers. 

  i have never been in a strip club. Why pay for something you can get for free?

 

[Willow]

i have never been in a strip club. Why pay for something you can get for free?

I've never been to a strip club either, but not for the same reason.   

[DarkSideR]

Here's some Stats to think about.
- Chances of getting C-19 = .0076% (In the US)
For every 1% increase in unemployment there will be;
- 3.3% more Overdoses
- 0.99% more Suicides
Unemployment is up 20%..

All this C-19 nonsense isn't about saving lives, is it?

[scooperhsd]

At an extra $600/wk many will have an incentive to get on UI , but not too get off it.

April 4 to July 31.

Four months at $600 extra a week.   For many,  that is incentive.   They'll save the "extra" and remain on UI after the CARES funds dry up.  Add in food stamps and they're riding high on the hog.

I can't see many saving the extra.

Now if the next stimulus of an extra $2,000 a month happens there might be a little saving going on.

Im saving my 600 extra a week. Adding it to the 3400 stimulus. Should have plenty to take the family on a nice vacation this fall or next summer on the governments dime  might even a a couple pieces to the arsenal.

I am with Gavin on this save the extra 600 per week for the 3-4 weeks I will get it thru May not working that will be around 2K in my pocket to do what I want with it from fixing up cycles to taking off more work and actually taking a vacation,  that is if the company does not fold first?     I tried not to be a smarty pants, but told the boss if the other 2 ladies want all of April and May to take all my weeks and I will sit at home not working and make more money NOT working.     Is the only way I will get what I deserved over 1 year ago from the company.

My wife's job (she is doing mortgage processing) is an essential job, and she has been working at home for the last 3-4 weeks (it's about 90% online). The problem is that she has no concept of taking breaks / quitting work ON TIME. They are absolutely swamped right now ( since interest rates have crashed), but still - she's trying to rationalize just working 10 -11 hours  a day.

[cookiedough]

Once again with Gavin on this.  I earned every penny and then some by far over the past 30 years.  Why would I give what little I earn away to someone else?   Charity begins at HOME for me.

I though have been in a strip club a few times some near 30 years ago.  Had 1 drink in the early 1990s for 8 bucks a pop only had one made it last a few hours sipping it enjoying the pole dancers going UP the pole backwards - that was impressive.  I thought the cocktail waitresses though totally butt naked was a little trashy though.  It was one of those clubs you could pay money to take a shower with the gals, but no touchy feely.      Would have been better/more fun at night if me and Steve at work at that 1st job I had outta college would have gone together vs. on separate trips, company business and all that yah know?      

As far as working 10-11 hour days,  my wife has been working 11-12 hour days for over 15 years at work by 530 a.m. (or earlier 1st one in office by far) and leaving hopefully around 430 p.m..  The piddly 5K extra she got LONG ago for becoming salary vs. hourly is a joke she easily could be making MORE hourly pay on OVERTIME the past 15 or so years enough for a few more new vehicles along the way or other stuff.   My last job was 12 hour days hard manual labor sometimes working 13 hour days NOT fun had enough of that BS after 1 year although that paycheck of 10-15K more net pay in 1 year sure looked good.   

[cookiedough]

Is this staying at home BS supposedly working from home for me anyways off and on weeks considered PUA (pandemic unemployment assistance) or regular unemployment?

I read the FINE print on PUA on the WI unemployment website and need to know which it is?  All the scenarios of PUA do NOT apply to me since do NOT have Covid 19, etc.  ONLY thing for a scenario is the last one listed being 'office closed directly related to COVID 19'.  Well,  technically the OFFICE is NOT closed since I am forced into work into the office NOT working from home with 2-3 others in my 15 person dept. off and on weeks thru end of May to get done DAILY job duties since my boss is too cheap to afford a printer at home nor bringing what she feels confidential papers/files home with me to do effectively all my job duties while at home.  Basically, I need a printer to print out about 50-150 pages per day off of MAINFRAME archaic old system as well as a copy paper box full of files with numbers on them needed daily to enter credit cards, banking info. into.    Boss is NOT allowing me to take those files home nor providing me a printer at home so forced to come into work.  Well,  on MOnday being tomorrow going to find out if my company setup all for PUA (pandemic unemployment assistance vs. regular unemployment) since the ONLY scenario I see is 'office closed due to Covid 19'. 

Hey,  if OFFICE closed I MUST work from home correct?   If I MUST work from home,  then I can ONLY do what I can at HOME correct?  That is only doing at home about 60% of my daily job duties without a printer and those files for banking/credit cards, etc.    Will see what HR and my bosses boss on MOnday says on this one.  I do not feel it is right to FORCE 2-3 of about 15 in our dept. and ONLY ONES in ENTIRE 300+ company HAVING to go into work to do our daily jobs especially if our company set this up with unemployment office as 'OFFICE CLOSED'  scenario.   If so,  then OFFICE CLOSED NO ONE in at all and do what we can AT HOME from work those off and on weeks and let the company go bankrupt and fold if I am unable to take files home and needing a printer daily.    WE shall see tomorrow where this leads to since if OFFICE closed I am packing up my workstation and ONLY doing what I can at home leaving 60-70+ hours work yet to do weekly vs. only 30 hours left if I was in the office alone me doing 2 1/2 peoples daily jobs by myself those weeks thru May. 

This should get interesting with my boss or more like my bosses boss or HR and payroll tomorrow.  Reason I am 99% sure is setup as PUA vs. regular unemployment is my weekly WI unemployment pay came up to ONLY 370 week which is the CAP under PUA vs. my regular unemployment rate is based upon 4% of my highest pd qtr. in pay which is more than my 370 I am getting now thru WI unemployment, not by much though.   

thoughts?  suggestions?  I am going to put those rules setup if is PUA under strict force and if my company setup under PUA (pandemic unemployment assistance) vs. regular unemployment I got them by the balls since the only scenario under PUA states 'office closed directly due to covid 19'.  Hey, if office closed then office closed work from home right should NOT be forced to work in the office due to stupid boss not allowing me confidential files (they are NOT) to take home.

[3fan4life]

Glad you two are in a good position, much better than many, at least that will be 2 less to worry about. I'm sure you guys also may want to help someone else who is not so fortunate.

 

Why would i want to help someone that is not responsible with money? Just shoo they can go blow mine? I don't think so.  I work hard to be where I'm at. No one helped me get here. This was my own doing.  For you to suggest i give money away is just stupid. Give your own money away and leave mine out of it. I didnt get here by giving my money away to irresponsible people and that has me sitting pretty good right now in this crisis.

Well you're a much more responsible man than me.

In my younger days I gave away alot of my money to strippers. 

  i have never been in a strip club. Why pay for something you can get for free?

In the parts of the world that I was in at the time, NOTHING was free.

[cookiedough]

Glad you two are in a good position, much better than many, at least that will be 2 less to worry about. I'm sure you guys also may want to help someone else who is not so fortunate.

 

Why would i want to help someone that is not responsible with money? Just shoo they can go blow mine? I don't think so.  I work hard to be where I'm at. No one helped me get here. This was my own doing.  For you to suggest i give money away is just stupid. Give your own money away and leave mine out of it. I didnt get here by giving my money away to irresponsible people and that has me sitting pretty good right now in this crisis.

Well you're a much more responsible man than me.

In my younger days I gave away alot of my money to strippers. 

  i have never been in a strip club. Why pay for something you can get for free?

In the parts of the world that I was in at the time, NOTHING was free.

What part of the world you in where sex cannot be free?  Just have to be charming and smoooze over the ladies dazzling them with your brilliance,  if that not work dazzle them with your _ullshit!  Sooner or later one will give in, right?       Cannot follow baseball rules where 3 strikes and you are out. 

I actually contacted 2 others where I work today after posting this PUA (pandemic unemployment assistance) and YES,  we are all getting 370 bucks MAXIMUM PUA pay regardless of hourly/salaried earnings so if you make double my pay (some do),  they still ONLY get 370 bucks per week maximum is all that is with NO federal and state taxes taken out which I did not do since hopefully is ONLY 3 weeks off thru end of May still.   So,   regular unemployment get paid MORE than PUA pay by about 20 bucks per week and from what I get out of reading up on WI unemployment website,  BOTH regular unemployment and PUA pay gets the extra 600 bucks extra per week on top fo the 370 per week MAX.

[Willow]

In the parts of the world that I was in at the time, NOTHING was free.

What part of the world you in where sex cannot be free?  Just have to be charming and smoooze over the ladies dazzling them with your brilliance, ...

Is that the definition of unintended celibacy?