Angry and Sad

[carolinarider09]

As I type this I am both angry and sad.  Angry because of what has happened how how it has been abused.  Sad, because so many believe there is a  “crisis”. 

Facts are as follows.

The President of the Unite States, at the recommendation of medical professionals (such as Dr. Fauci and Dr. Brix) shut down the worlds largest economy, placing 30 million people out of work and spending $4 Trillion that we did not have to spend to “flatten the curve” and “slow the spread” of a new disease. 

He was told that these steps were necessary to ensure that Hospitals would not be over taxed with patients. 

The shutdown of the US Economy had nothing to do with minimizing the spread of this new disease.  It had to do with preventing a predicted collapse of the nation’s health care system.  That is, the same number of people would , sooner or later, be infected, but they wanted this infection number to increase as slowly as possible 

The reality today, May 4, 2020. 

Number of deaths attributed to the Corona-19 virus is less than 40,000 as of the end if April (According to the CDC).  Far less than the original predictions of hundreds of thousands of deaths. 

Thirty (30,000,000)  Million American workers no long have a job.

The national debt has been increased by over $4,000,000,000,000 (Four Trillion).  Thats about $11,400 dollars for every man, woman, and child in the United States of America. 

Liberties, guaranteed by the United States Constitution, have been suspended (and in some states for months yet to come).  And American’s are now having to “fight” to get them back.  Those same liberties that our fathers and mothers and grandfathers and grandmothers (and some of us)  fought and died to protect are now subject to local government authority. 

Business have been forced to close (some forever).  But some businesses that were deemed “essential” by local governemnts could remain open.  Those essential businesses not only included grocery stores and pharmacies, but also included hardware stores,  auto parts stores, and other similar businesses. 

Non-essential surgeries and medical procedures were put on hold, forcing the layout of medical workers due to lost revenue. 

Those are the facts. 

What makes me sad is that some many people are so willing to give up their individual freedoms to “save one life”.   Again I remind you many gave up their lives so you could make that decision and I firmly believe that they would be aghast at how sheepish Americans have become. 

The freedoms we use to have in this country, were bought and paid for by the lives of others.  And while you are allowed to make many personal decisions, you should not make that decision for me, especially when affects me and my personal freedoms.

The following quote is attributed to Oliver Wendell Holmes.

”The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins.”

The entire purpose of law is to ensure that an individual's right to live their life as they choose does not impact anyone else's freedom and right to live their lives as they choose. 

What it means is that you can wear a face mask, wear gloves, and wear any PPE you might want to protect yourself as you deem necessary.  But you cannot and should not require me to do so. 

[Valkorado]

I'm angry too.  This virus sucks.

https://www.waaytv.com/content/news/570182042.html

The entire purpose of law is to ensure that an individual's right to live their life as they choose does not impact anyone else's freedom and right to live their lives as they choose.

OK, as long as that individual's choice of how to live actually abides by established laws.  If not chaos and revolution seem inevitable.

There is the civil disobedience option.  Unfortunately, many who are paid to defend law look upon it as, well, illegal.

It looks like masks aren't required in SC,  but you might run into a little static with some store's face mask policies if your not donning one.  It appears that Costco is one such establishment.

https://chstoday.6amcity.com/coronavirus-charleston-sc/

[Oss]

Just got back from the antibody test.

Only had to wait a little over an hour plus the hour driving there and back

Should get results by Friday

Where will the next Trump come from in 2024?   We need to figure this out soon to be ready

Interesting post, thanks for putting that out there

[Chrisj CMA]

Kind of embarrassing.  Judy and I essentially have had to change nothing. The only thing we can’t (couldn’t) do was go out to dinner at our favorite restaurant. I ride when I want to ride. Go to the store when I need something. Stopped wearing the mask, I think the threat is low enough we don’t need it.

I guess we don’t really have a life if quarantine made little to no change 

[Willow]

I strongly agree, Carolinarider09.

Valkarado, it's not just the virus (it's evil enough on its own) but it's intensified by the idiocy that has been promoted in attempts to supposedly fight the spread of the virus.

Models.  So far all of the models used have been proved, over time, to have overestimated numbers of deaths.  I'm not going to say I can see the future clearly enough to say this latest model predicting 134,000 deaths is wrong, but I am learned enough by past exposure to put no faith in its accuracy.

The number of impacted people and deaths are not avoidable at this point.  The damage to the economy and to millions and millions of live was totally avoidable and largely unnecessary.  

[Valkorado]

I strongly agree, Carolinarider09.

Valkarado, it's not just the virus (it's evil enough on its own) but it's intensified by the idiocy that has been promoted in attempts to supposedly fight the spread of the virus.

Models.  So far all of the models used have been proved, over time, to have overestimated numbers of deaths.  I'm not going to say I can see the future clearly enough to say this latest model predicting 134,000 deaths is wrong, but I am learned enough by past exposure to put no faith in its accuracy.

The number of impacted people and deaths are not avoidable at this point.  The damage to the economy and to millions and millions of live was totally avoidable and largely unnecessary.  

I have no faith in the recent model, either.  But there it is, nonetheless.

The damage to our economy may have been avoidable.  Unfortunately, "we" were unable to do so.  So, I still say this virus sucks.  Health wise, economy wise and even in its division of good Americans.

[Oss]

As a body weakened by illness may lose life to any virus

A strong body with a strong immune system will likely survive

Fortunately our national body had 3 years to go from the weakend state of
Obama's stewardship to gain strength and become the greatest economy
the world had ever seen.

The USA will survive this and our economy will regain its health in time for the election

The deep state, the globalists, the DNC socialists and the Chinese will not prevail

The uncovering of the role Obama played in the attempted coup against Trump will come out

It is all of our jobs to make sure this recovery happens

This I believe totally.  

[Valkorado]

It is all of our jobs to make sure this recovery happens

This I believe totally.  

 

Me too.  Thanks for the perspective, Oss!

[_Sheffjs_]

And Doctor Staffan sent a text and picture from Mallboden Café & Vandrarhem. I asked if he was working extra hours at the Hospital, no the normal 35.  Says Sweden is doing fine.  

[Valkorado]

  Dang, Swedish pizza looks mighty good!

[98valk]

great post. some info on fauci, he is deep state.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/anthony_fauci_the_nihs_face_of_the_coronavirus_is_a_deepstate_hillary_clintonloving_stooge.html#.XnYO5Z8RvOg.facebook

Thirty-three years ago now, that fear-mongering never panned out and it did not lead to country-wide shut downs of almost everything — rather a boondoggle of spending on HIV-AIDS research that dwarfed all other medical spending.

As I wrote in 2003:

    For years, both types of diabetes have been given short shrift in favor of conditions like AIDS that have better organized and more vocal constituencies or are considered to be more politically correct. The government currently spends 40 to 100 times as much on AIDS research per AIDS death when compared to diabetes for every death from diabetes.

This chart below clearly illustrates the results of the efforts by Fauci and his colleagues:

Sound familiar? Like maybe something ripped from today's headlines? The 2020 coronavirus "flu d'état" may eventually come to dwarf what went on with HIV-AIDS. Let's hope that this latest boondoggle, which is accompanied by a new range of frightening implications for freedom, doesn't drag out interminably, like HIV-AIDS did, for another two or three decades.

[longrider]

Assuming the leadership role of any country means also shouldering the responsibility of doing what is best for both the people and the economy.  Our leader up here is and has been a boy trying to do a mans work.  Our pretty boy has allowed our federal debt as of last week to accrue to over a quarter trillion which means each life lost so far has been over 78 million dollars.  This does not include any other loss.  Employment, loss of business etc.  And how is it that almost every small business in our country has to close while all the big box stores remain open calling them essential services.  Just thinking.

[Alien]

Just a note:  40,000 dead is still an unbelieveable tragedy.  That's 40,000 people with families.  

Ride Safe,

Alien

[Alien]

Also, take a look at this.  You can drill down from the global level to the county level. 

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

[Valkorado]

It's real, no doubt.  Those who trivialize it are living in their own private Idaho.  40 thousand schmorty thousand.  My arse.

I take the armchair quarterbacks who say they have the answers with a grain of salt.  There are no easy answers.

[hubcapsc]

Number of deaths attributed to the Corona-19 virus is less than 40,000 as of the end if April (According to the CDC).  Far less than the original predictions of hundreds of thousands of deaths.


I guess the death count is low because of the lockdown...

-Mike

[Jersey mike]

What I’m going to say may sound cold, unsympathetic and uncaring is far from the truth but in reality the absolute truth of the matter is money makes the world go ‘round. The devastation of the economy is having a far greater global impact on our lives than the virus. Yes people have died. Yes people have lost loved ones and that’s terrible. In no way am I minimizing those losses. The impact of people not being allowed to work, to bring home money, to spend on food and other necessities is pandemic in and of itself.

We cannot stimulus our way out of this. This isn’t something the National credit card can cover over and over again. People dying is a bad thing but a nation shutdown will die from the inside out and spread like cancer.

They tried to think of the greater good of stopping the spread, forced people to quarantine themselves to prevent the spread so hospitals were not overwhelmed but in the interim the country has suffered a much greater loss of productivity and livelihoods. I could list slews of jobs, businesses and employee sectors that are suffering and dying on the vine because things are so far out of hand with control and containment we have overlooked and neglected the best interest of all citizens which is the ability to choose.

The ability to choose what is best for themselves, for their families, for their businesses and employees. The ability to choose whether or not to attend religious services. The ability to choose to function in society. The ability to choose to decide how to care for themselves and those around them.

The economic health of the nation (and the world) is vital to the existence of the people. The economic health of the family dynamic is essential to the wellbeing of not just an individual family but to the population as a whole. Money makes the world go ‘round.

Yes people got sick and many died but the systemic death of the nation far outweighs the deaths already suffered or that may be suffered. That sounds cold, mean and rotten but sometimes the truth hurts and that’s the truth. I don’t wish this virus on anyone and I’m sorry if you lost a loved one or know of a family who has lost a loved one but the world cannot remain at a stand still because of a virus. We cannot give into fear and cower in our homes for the concept of waiting for the “plague” to pass over our homes and lives.

Now with all of that being said and laid out on the table, the speed at which the virologists and other areas of the medical community appear to be moving is a testament to the members of those sciences. These people were given the gift of understanding the science behind all this as well as the patience to dig into resolving the issue. All three of my children excelled in mathematics and science in school, I really do not believe they have ever been challenged on a high level. My youngest is finishing her sophomore year in college as an Advanced Chem Major. She breezed through Organic Chem and is moving into Bio-Chem next year and other mathematics and sciences. The point I’m getting at is it’s a gift these people of science dedicate themselves to. I’m a mathematical failure, I can’t understand algebra.

Give the people of science the time to find a solution and it will be there, when I don’t know but this virus will teach them (and has taught them) what can actually be accomplished in a short period. It has also shown them all forecasts cannot be acceptable without actual data.

[Valkorado]

It's not really that cold, and believe it or not I see the logic in your argument.  I just don't see any surefire solutions put forth. 

Is there an easy answer?  The economy has already been hurt.  People are still dying.  Things are slowly opening up.  Spikes are predicted.  Should things be opning up faster?  Should businesses never have been shut down to begin with?  Is revolution called for?  I don't have the answers, you tell me.

It ain't over, not by a long shot.

[Valkorado]

Number of deaths attributed to the Corona-19 virus is less than 40,000 as of the end if April (According to the CDC).  Far less than the original predictions of hundreds of thousands of deaths.


I guess the death count is low because of the lockdown...

-Mike

Well, President Trump says the mitigations have saved "well over two million" American lives.  I'm scratchin' my head a bit trying to comprehend (much less accept) those numbers, but who am I to argue with him?

[Willow]

We as a nation (and a "civilized world") are being driven by anecdotes and fear spread by the so called news media.  I tend to be more of a numbers guy.

In 2017 the average number of deaths daily in the U.S. was just under 8,000 (31 less).  In the 2018-2019 flu season the flu deaths were 161 per day.  The average deaths per day from the first COVID-19 death until May 4 was just under 870.  This number is a bit inflated as the number of deaths since COVID-19 attributed to heart failure, stroke and other causes has been down.  That is to say some of the people killed as a result of COVID-19 would have been otherwise killed by the flu or other causes.

To present those numbers into something meaningful, last year across February through April the number of U.S. deaths was a little under 700,000.  Deaths from COVID-19 through 4 May have been 70,000 (reported).  The reported number of COVID-19 deaths has been shown to be exaggerated.

The number of deaths on our highways is about 38,000 per year with an additional 4 and a half million hospitalized.  I don't see a lot of people clamoring for reducing speed limits to less than twenty-five mph.

Is it trivial?  I don't claim that.  Is is catastrophic enough to have done the damage that has been done to the economic, social, and health well being of the country (world?) that has been done (and is being done)?  I absolutely deny that.  We are making decisions based upon our emotional response to a handful of pathos infused stories.  We are taking advice regarding our economic health from doctors, experts, on individual human body health.  We are doing this to attempt to avoid a result that simply will not be avoided.

I also am angry and I am sad.  I would be traumatized to watch an individual committing suicide.  I am traumatized to watch my county committing suicide.  It's a good time in history to be old.

 

[carolinarider09]

I strongly agree with what Willow said above. 

The numbers are, "variables".  The CDC reports number "X" on website "A" and number "Y" on website "B"

The following is what is posted on the CDC website shown below.  It is always different from the number in the news and political messages.  Why??? I think I know but its hard to prove.  I have checked multiple times to ensure that it is a real CDC website. 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

[Valkorado]

This is not from the news, or a political message.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

[carolinarider09]

"If saves one life"

As I sit here in my air-conditioned home, typing this, retired, looking at my life ahead, and the life I have lived. I ask myself, would I given up my life to prevent this destruction of American from which we may not fully recover. I do not know if I can answer that question.  

But, what will tomorrow really look like?  Contact tracing police, mandatory masks, mandatory inoculations, loss of liberties and freedoms we enjoyed just a few months ago.  

And all to "save one life".    Yet here we are, on a motorcycle forum, were we encourage ourselves and others to ride on a two wheeled vehicle that is, just because of its design, more dangerous that driving a car.   Yet we ride.  Why, because we have "freedom of choice".  No one makes us ride.  Its our choice.  

I pray that American returns to the American I knew and loved these few months past.  I pray that freedoms are returned.  And that we do not forgot what has happened.  

[Willow]

This is not from the news, or a political message.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

It's also of questionable accuracy.  Why are 1/3 the cases of the world in the United States of America?

[Valkorado]

I'm going to say this and then shower up and ride.  I too am loafing around drinking coffee.    

We agree, and want everything back to normal.  I think we'll get there.  It'll be challenging in the short term at least.  But we won't have chance, economically or otherwise, until we kick this virus' little microscopic (or as Trump would say, invisible) ass.

Until then, the floodgates will not be fully opened, no matter how badly we're wanting them too.

[scooperhsd]

This is not from the news, or a political message.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

It's also of questionable accuracy.  Why are 1/3 the cases of the world in the United States of America?

Because we are the ones that are "transparent" about our numbers. (Gotta wonder how many deaths are being counted as C19 that are actually underlying / pre-existing causes).

Yes, I'm angry and sad also. It's time to get back to work, following sanitation guidelines. Social distancing where possible. All this "flattening the curve" has done is slow down the rate of hit to medical treatment - it won't  reduce the number that will eventually get sick / die from it.

[3fan4life]

It's not really that cold, and believe it or not I see the logic in your argument.  I just don't see any surefire solutions put forth. 

Is there an easy answer?  The economy has already been hurt.  People are still dying.  Things are slowly opening up.  Spikes are predicted.  Should things be opning up faster?  Should businesses never have been shut down to begin with?  Is revolution called for?  I don't have the answers, you tell me.

It ain't over, not by a long shot.

That's because there are no surefire solutions.

No matter what people are going to die from Covid-19.

Yes, we should be concerned about limiting those deaths as much as possible.

But, we should not allow a total economic collapse, that would ultimately result in much more suffering and death.

If hot spots begin to flare up as we return to normal then the idea of quarantining those hot spots should not be out of the question.

If Northern VA had been quarantined most of the state may have not even had a single Covid-19 case.

I can only imagine how NYS and NJ's, #'s might have been reduced if NYC had been quarantined early on.



There are ways to protect yourself from this disease, there are ways to protect those who are at a high risk of dying from it if they catch it and we should do those things.


The #'s show that the vast majority of people who catch this will experience little to no symptoms.

We need to get back to living our everyday lives.      

[Valkorado]

This is not from the news, or a political message.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

It's also of questionable accuracy.  Why are 1/3 the cases of the world in the United States of America?

I don't know, Willow.  Îs it 100% accurate?  Surely not.  It's probably te most cited and referenced tally anywhere.

To answer your question, I have no idea. Maybe because we gave honest facts and the world lied.  Or the world gave honest figures and we lied.  Maybe (probably) all countries made mistakes. 98 would say nearly all the deaths were from other causes altogether.  

I'm pretty sure China lied regardless, and they're probably not the only ones.

[98valk]

This is not from the news, or a political message.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

It's also of questionable accuracy.  Why are 1/3 the cases of the world in the United States of America?

I don't know, Willow.  Îs it 100% accurate?  Surely not.  It's probably te most cited and referenced tally anywhere.

To answer your question, I have no idea. Maybe because we gave honest facts and the world lied.  Or the world gave honest figures and we lied.  Maybe (probably) all countries made mistakes. 98 would say nearly all the deaths were from other causes altogether.  

I'm pretty sure China lied regardless, and they're probably not the only ones.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-fed-paper-finds-pandemic-a-century-ago-fueled-nazi-rise-11588629945

[Valkorado]

Last question to ask before I sign out for awhile.  

The economy is opening up.  I am happy about that!

Many seen disappointed that it isn't opening up fast enough.  How do you, as law abiding citizens, force the economy to ramp up faster than it presently is?

Thanks and enjoy your day!

[Jersey mike]

It's not really that cold, and believe it or not I see the logic in your argument.  I just don't see any surefire solutions put forth. 

Is there an easy answer?  The economy has already been hurt.  People are still dying.  Things are slowly opening up.  Spikes are predicted.  Should things be opning up faster?  Should businesses never have been shut down to begin with?  Is revolution called for?  I don't have the answers, you tell me.

It ain't over, not by a long shot.

I believe all restrictions should be lifted. I believe enough of the population has been frightened enough to make their own decisions regarding their own safety. The military has proven they can react at a almost an immediate response time for requests for medical facilities if needed.

[Bighead]

My question is when this passes , and the next strain of whatever virus hits the world again are we just going to shut down again? This virus has been introduced to the world so it isnt going away ever. So if it acys as the flu does and when the next season of it hits are we going to shut down again? And have total world economic collapse. It is a real virus with real problems but we cannot shut down everything, if we as a whole do there will be more deaths from starvation than the virus causes. IMHO.

[carolinarider09]

I fear the same Bighead, unless we, as a people unite, stand up and be counted.  

I know its not much because its just a message, but I write my Governor often as well as the President.  I also write my Congressman and Senators.  

I try to include facts and data with references in my messages.  I try and use logic and yes I know it is highly unlikely that the person to who the message was addressed ever sees it, but I am pretty confident, someone is keeping a count.  

Next time, if I am still here (it seems to happen at ten year intervals interesting all by itself) I will not sit and listen and accept.  

Sorry for the old adage, "Fool me once, shame on me.  Fool me twice, shame on you"  For me it will be different and more virulent.  

I shall not stand idly by and watch as things change until its too late, as I did this time.  

[Jersey mike]

I fear the same Bighead, unless we, as a people unite, stand up and be counted. 

I know its not much because its just a message, but I write my Governor often as well as the President.  I also write my Congressman and Senators. 

I try to include facts and data with references in my messages.  I try and use logic and yes I know it is highly unlikely that the person to who the message was addressed ever sees it, but I am pretty confident, someone is keeping a count. 

Next time, if I am still here (it seems to happen at ten year intervals interesting all by itself) I will not sit and listen and accept. 

Sorry for the old adage, "Fool my once, shame on me.  Fool me twice, shame on you"  For me it will be different and more virulent. 

I shall not stand idly by and watch as things change until its too late, as I did this time. 

The saying “what doesn’t kill ya will only make ya stronger” keep coming to mind.

[carolinarider09]

"The saying “what doesn’t kill ya will only make ya stronger” keep coming to mind."

Yea Verily

[Rams]

This is not from the news, or a political message.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

It's also of questionable accuracy.  Why are 1/3 the cases of the world in the United States of America?

The number of deaths attributed to COVID 19 are extremely skewed.   Every person that has died in the last few weeks is tested for the COVID 19 virus or anti-body.   It doesn't matter if that person came in with 21 gunshot wounds and wasn't going to leave alive regardless of treatment.   If the test comes back positive, that person is considered a Pandemic death.

This is because, the federal government is reimbursing hospitals for care of COVID 19 care.   So, the reports are skewed, it's all about money.   Would the hospitals be overwhelmed if nothing had been done, no doubt.   But, the vast majority of these folks were going to die anyway.

I am not suggesting we should not be following the established guidelines, I do believe we should but, I really don't like being scammed and I definitely don't like screwing up the next three or four generations with a huge debt.   Annually, the Flu kills thousands, vehicle wrecks kill huge numbers, there are so many different diseases that kill, I can't begin to name them all but, this one we are allowing to destroy the nation.   This will probably lead to a 2nd Great Depression.   Who's gonna take the blame for that?

Last week I had eye surgery, it was an elective.   A surgeon cut into my eye and removed my cataract and replaced it with a man-made lens, tomorrow I get the other eye done but, I can't go get a hair cut or go out for a socially distanced meal.   It just doesn't make any sense IMHO.

Rams

[carolinarider09]

Rams,

I feel the same way.  I was suppose to have a Cystourethroscopy done just as the "lock down" hit.  Its not that invasive but it sort of is.  

It was delayed but now its on again and yes, I cannot get a haircut nor can I visit my dentist for my routine checkup.  

It makes no sense.  

[_Sheffjs_]

My question is when this passes , and the next strain of whatever virus hits the world again are we just going to shut down again? This virus has been introduced to the world so it isnt going away ever. So if it acys as the flu does and when the next season of it hits are we going to shut down again? And have total world economic collapse. It is a real virus with real problems but we cannot shut down everything, if we as a whole do there will be more deaths from starvation than the virus causes. IMHO.

 Yep!  To me it is that simple.  I like the Swedish model just fine.

[Rams]

Today (on NBC) they reported that there is now a new scare for kids who contract COVID 19.   It seems for a very small group of kids, the virus can result in some very serious health issues.   They presented this as a possible huge threat.   I'm not medically qualified to say whether it is or not a huge threat but, when they said the effected numbers, I was dismayed by the report.   One of our nation's hottest COVID 19 spots (New York) had 15 kids come down with these issues associated with COVID 19 since this started.   Think about that for a second, 15 kids out of how many million?  

Now, don't think I'm suggesting this isn't a big deal for those 15 kids and their families but, when you look at the numbers in NY, 15 is miniscule statistically speaking.   Just more drama for a ratings seeking media.   More scare tactics.

People, elderly, kids, drivers, drug addicts, motorcyclists, cancer patients, politicians, etc...… die everyday, we can't save them all.   Yeah, that means me and you also.   We do need to follow safe social distancing and take care of ourselves and our loved ones but, we're all gonna go eventually.

This country needs to get back to work, I need a haircut.  

Rams

[The emperor has no clothes]

Today (on NBC) they reported that there is now a new scare for kids who contract COVID 19.   It seems for a very small group of kids, the virus can result in some very serious health issues.   They presented this as a possible huge threat.   I'm not medically qualified to say whether it is or not a huge threat but, when they said the effected numbers, I was dismayed by the report.   One of our nation's hottest COVID 19 spots (New York) had 15 kids come down with these issues associated with COVID 19.   Think about that for a second, 15 kids out of how many million?  

Now, don't think I'm suggesting this isn't a big deal for those 15 kids and their families but, when you look at the numbers in NY, 15 is miniscule statistically speaking.   Just more drama for a ratings seeking media.   More scare tactics.

People, elderly, kids, drivers, drug addicts, motorcyclists, cancer patients, politicians, etc...… die everyday, we can't save them all.   Yeah, that means me and you also.   We do need to follow safe social distancing and take care of ourselves and our loved ones but, we're all gonna go eventually.

Rams

I saw that article. The doctor described it as extremely rare.