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« on: May 23, 2020, 08:05:33 AM » |
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I'm curious as to how it stacks up against the Valk.
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2020, 06:06:16 PM » |
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I can’t say how it compares to our valks, but I can attest that my buddy spanked my 1800 VTX bad. When I hit 2nd, all I saw was his tail light, I shut down at 100 and I think he was still gaining...
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2020, 06:34:45 PM » |
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I can’t say how it compares to our valks, but I can attest that my buddy spanked my 1800 VTX bad. When I hit 2nd, all I saw was his tail light, I shut down at 100 and I think he was still gaining...
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Well if it spanked your VTX it would embarrass the Valk. I too owed a VTX 1800 and it would smoke the valk 0-100. I didnt believe what I read on the paper when I saw th stats until I threw my leg across the VTX.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2020, 01:43:51 AM » |
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I raced mine here and there when I had it. Definitely faster/quicker than the Valkyrie on any given day, anywhere. Knew a couple of guys that rode them hard and ended up having problems with the tranny popping out of second gear almost every time while under heavy acceleration. I never raced anybody on a 109r and I'm glad I didn't, because I would have had my ass handed to me. The 109R's suffer from the same virus though. Second gear becomes problematic, much more so than even the old V-Max's. I had one of those too. The original 1985 in red with supertrapp pipes and stage 7. It sounded like a mad Ferrari. A head turner for sure. When I put it up on Craigslist some 10 years ago, it sold in one hour. Fun times. I "blame" it on the fact that I was ten years younger...
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2020, 08:13:49 AM » |
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I owned a 1600 Vulcan, pooch. The VTX1800 and the Valk (standards) damn near the same overall PTW ratio and 1/4 mi. elapsed time. 2000 Vulcan having 500cc over a Valk should be quicker but to many folk that think they can handle a bike in a performance "run" and judge accordingly,  and I'm not one of them but... https://ridermagazine.com/2004/01/29/2004-kawasaki-vulcan-2000-road-test/
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2020, 12:26:35 PM » |
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Guy here on my street-since moved after marriage-had the Vulcan 2000. He Really spanked a V-rod. Decided I did Not need Phatt Ghurl and me embarrassed. I took this same guy to Springfield to pick up his H/D trike. Told me the trike wuz down on power compared to the Vulcan. I Never got the chance to throw a leg over the Vulcan-Drat. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2020, 03:47:18 PM » |
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I can’t say how it compares to our valks, but I can attest that my buddy spanked my 1800 VTX bad. When I hit 2nd, all I saw was his tail light, I shut down at 100 and I think he was still gaining...
Craig
Well if it spanked your VTX it would embarrass the Valk. I too owed a VTX 1800 and it would smoke the valk 0-100. I didnt believe what I read on the paper when I saw th stats until I threw my leg across the VTX. you must of had the rare VTX1800 that was supped up some? Like you said, on paper it is neck and neck in the 1/4 mile with our Valks. I think it would be up to the riders skills who wins 95% of the time on those 2 bikes. The vulcan 2000 is the only Kawi Vulcan that will spank our Valks. I had a co-worker who said her boyfriends vulcan 1600 meanstreak was super fast, bet not! 
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2020, 03:55:26 PM » |
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I raced mine here and there when I had it. Definitely faster/quicker than the Valkyrie on any given day, anywhere. Knew a couple of guys that rode them hard and ended up having problems with the tranny popping out of second gear almost every time while under heavy acceleration. I never raced anybody on a 109r and I'm glad I didn't, because I would have had my ass handed to me. The 109R's suffer from the same virus though. Second gear becomes problematic, much more so than even the old V-Max's. I had one of those too. The original 1985 in red with supertrapp pipes and stage 7. It sounded like a mad Ferrari. A head turner for sure. When I put it up on Craigslist some 10 years ago, it sold in one hour. Fun times. I "blame" it on the fact that I was ten years younger...
didn't you feel like a giant on that 1985 Vmax? Last summer a guy had one for sale reasonably priced around 2K used felt it was more like 1500 worth to me same 1985 in pretty good shape but not mint by any means. I felt like a MONSTER giant on that thing and it took a split second to kick in that Vboost and then zoom zoom zoom off I went to 90 mph in no time flat, but there is no way I could drive that thing at my older middle age for more than say 40 miles or so at a time, not comfy at all handlebars nor seat nor footpeg placement for shifting and resting my feet. I feel the old 1983 honda v65 magna was much more comfy for me.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 04:39:58 PM » |
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per motorcycle consumer news testing Valkyries win.
tested in '04 vulcan 2000 0-60 3.95 sec 0-100 10.80 sec 1/4 mile 12.15 sec
tested in '96 valkyrie 1500 0-60 3.86 sec 0-100 9.96 sec 1/4 mile 12.02
tested in '15 valkyrie 1800 0-60 3.41 sec 0-100 9.5 sec 1/4 mile 11.65
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2020, 05:35:58 PM » |
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per motorcycle consumer news testing Valkyries win.
tested in '04 vulcan 2000 0-60 3.95 sec 0-100 10.80 sec 1/4 mile 12.15 sec
tested in '96 valkyrie 0-60 3.86 sec 0-100 9.96 sec 1/4 mile 12.02
tested in '15 valkyrie 0-60 3.41 sec 0-100 9.5 sec 1/4 mile 11.65
So in '15, the Valkyrie was just getting broke in? 
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2020, 05:57:37 PM » |
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I can’t say how it compares to our valks, but I can attest that my buddy spanked my 1800 VTX bad. When I hit 2nd, all I saw was his tail light, I shut down at 100 and I think he was still gaining...
Craig
Well if it spanked your VTX it would embarrass the Valk. I too owed a VTX 1800 and it would smoke the valk 0-100. I didnt believe what I read on the paper when I saw th stats until I threw my leg across the VTX. I have done the 1/4 mile against a VTX1800 several times and off the line the VTX all the way, 1/8 we are even 1/4 and I am ahead in speed & time and that was before I got mine running right, not been back to the drags as the series we did got canned due to covid, I was really looking forward to better times. I still ride with VTX's, none has an advantage on a rolling start, standing yes for a bit. 
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2020, 07:45:47 PM » |
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Seems to me the 1st Valk would be the fast 97 and the last Valk is the 1800 motor but I could be wrong
Do you know which kind of Valks ran those numbers
I had heard low 13 for Valk at least that is what I remember
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2020, 08:48:35 PM » |
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Seems to me the 1st Valk would be the fast 97 and the last Valk is the 1800 motor but I could be wrong
Do you know which kind of Valks ran those numbers
I had heard low 13 for Valk at least that is what I remember
I think you and me OSS could do low to mid 13 seconds or so 1/4 mile, but doubt in that 12.99 and under mark. It takes a much better PRO IMO to get in that 12.5 to 12.8 mark. If I could not break 14.00 I would be very disappointed in myself.  My goal would be to get under 13.00 but doubt I could just not super super FAST.... I would be confident to top under 12.99 on my kids yamaha frj1300 though.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2020, 09:26:49 PM » |
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per motorcycle consumer news testing Valkyries win.
tested in '04 vulcan 2000 0-60 3.95 sec 0-100 10.80 sec 1/4 mile 12.15 sec
tested in '96 valkyrie 1500 0-60 3.86 sec 0-100 9.96 sec 1/4 mile 12.02
tested in '15 valkyrie 1800 0-60 3.41 sec 0-100 9.5 sec 1/4 mile 11.65
That is not what real life is. It's pretty much like saying that everybody has high blood pressure compared to an astronaut orbiting the earth. There are a lot of variables in real life situations. The Kawi felt faster, at least to me. Never had the chance of racing a Valkyrie while riding the Kawasaki and viceversa. I've never seen another Valkyrie in my neck of the woods in the last year or so. They're pretty rare, but the VN2000 is even rarer.
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2020, 09:34:33 PM » |
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I raced mine here and there when I had it. Definitely faster/quicker than the Valkyrie on any given day, anywhere. Knew a couple of guys that rode them hard and ended up having problems with the tranny popping out of second gear almost every time while under heavy acceleration. I never raced anybody on a 109r and I'm glad I didn't, because I would have had my ass handed to me. The 109R's suffer from the same virus though. Second gear becomes problematic, much more so than even the old V-Max's. I had one of those too. The original 1985 in red with supertrapp pipes and stage 7. It sounded like a mad Ferrari. A head turner for sure. When I put it up on Craigslist some 10 years ago, it sold in one hour. Fun times. I "blame" it on the fact that I was ten years younger...
didn't you feel like a giant on that 1985 Vmax? Last summer a guy had one for sale reasonably priced around 2K used felt it was more like 1500 worth to me same 1985 in pretty good shape but not mint by any means. I felt like a MONSTER giant on that thing and it took a split second to kick in that Vboost and then zoom zoom zoom off I went to 90 mph in no time flat, but there is no way I could drive that thing at my older middle age for more than say 40 miles or so at a time, not comfy at all handlebars nor seat nor footpeg placement for shifting and resting my feet. I feel the old 1983 honda v65 magna was much more comfy for me. I WAS a giant riding that beautiful thing. That v-boost was something else. The brakes sucked, and it was horrible in turns. 4 gallon gas tank. A drag racer by definition. Makes a great addition to a cruiser or a dual sport bike. About four years ago I almost pulled the trigger on a 2014 with 1,500 miles on it. I'm glad I didn't, even though I've bought numerous bikes on the spur of the moment. Never say never...
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2020, 10:00:27 PM » |
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Seems to me the 1st Valk would be the fast 97 and the last Valk is the 1800 motor but I could be wrong
Do you know which kind of Valks ran those numbers
I had heard low 13 for Valk at least that is what I remember
yes, 97 valk and 1800 valk.
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2020, 03:53:13 AM » |
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I ran my friend on his Vulcan 2000 1/4 mile, me on my 1998 Valkyrie with needles shimmed, carbs tuned and power commander. I had him by a quarter bike length.
Switched bikes and ran again, me riding his Vulcan 2000 I had him by more than a full bike length.
It felt real nice, impressive and fun to ride. Nice paint and fit/finish. Kind of quirky/jerky throttle. Doesn't corner handle as well and didn't brake well but a heck of a fun bike to blast around on and comfortable ergo. I like them, easy to look at and fun to ride.
This was many years ago, both bikes have been replaced many times over.
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2020, 05:15:38 PM » |
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Also had a Vulcan 1600. Also agree that one was a top heavy pooch! Lots of bottom end then out of wind pretty quick.
Nice to know our old gals still perform pretty well against modern competition.
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2020, 06:20:00 PM » |
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I can’t say how it compares to our valks, but I can attest that my buddy spanked my 1800 VTX bad. When I hit 2nd, all I saw was his tail light, I shut down at 100 and I think he was still gaining...
Craig
Well if it spanked your VTX it would embarrass the Valk. I too owed a VTX 1800 and it would smoke the valk 0-100. I didnt believe what I read on the paper when I saw th stats until I threw my leg across the VTX. I have done the 1/4 mile against a VTX1800 several times and off the line the VTX all the way, 1/8 we are even 1/4 and I am ahead in speed & time and that was before I got mine running right, not been back to the drags as the series we did got canned due to covid, I was really looking forward to better times. I still ride with VTX's, none has an advantage on a rolling start, standing yes for a bit.  Not doubting your account but my 2004 VTX 1800 would outrun my ‘97 Valkyrie. 0-100 mph.
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