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« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2020, 08:25:31 AM »

Come on NoVEMBer  Grin
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« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2020, 09:59:07 AM »

Why is your health concern my problem. And vise versa.  Take responsibility for yourself  and quit trying to force your issues on others. 


This thread is discussing facemasks and C19.  If you don't like the conversation find another thread.

Force?  I've said numerous times I don't support lockdown.  I've also said wear what you want to or wear nothing, protective gear wise.  This is America!   You go be free!

Conversely I do remember posting a poll here some time back in which the majority of respondents indicted their support for the President's three stage reopening plan which required states to meet certian criteria before moving on to the next stage.  I still support that plan.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,110917.0.html

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200611/widespread-face-mask-use-could-control-second-wave?ecd=wnl_spr_061320&ctr=wnl-spr-061320_nsl-LeadModule_cta&mb=yD3yvaRDE8O24N5PFMopteHnVev1imbCxO17Y1V1R2k%3d


With the CDC not reporting accurate numbers - why should we start believing them now ? open up and let the chips fall where they may.
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« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2020, 11:31:46 AM »

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article243830467.html
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« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2020, 06:13:42 PM »

found this on youtube worth watching if true.  I will NOT be wearing a mask back to work at my desk 6 feet apart since OSHA says masks do no good on Covid 19 as well as if under 19.5% oxygen level wearing a mask harms me is not safe.  If mgmt. and HR still require it,  I can file a complaint against them which I will do with OSHA.

https://youtu.be/3STOGvsVCPs

by the way,  my older part time worker showed me this video she is age 68 and can guarantee you she will not be wearing a mask either.  We are a bunch of rebels.    To make anyone at work feel better I have no issues wearing a mask leaving my desk to go to copier or bathroom, if it makes them feel safer but NOT wearing the mask at my desk all alone over 6 feet away from anyone.

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« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2020, 05:34:39 AM »

Hey valkorado I was referring to C19. I’m tired of people saying they have health issues therefore I should wear a mask to protect them. There...is that more clear for ya.
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« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2020, 05:54:38 AM »

Hey valkorado I was referring to C19. I’m tired of people saying they have health issues therefore I should wear a mask to protect them. There...is that more clear for ya.

Hey binkie so was I.  Thats why I told you to get out there and have fun.  I could care less what you wear.  Seems you're the one with comprehension issues.
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« Reply #86 on: June 30, 2020, 09:43:40 AM »

Serk, I saw that as well its a rational experiment. 

Regarding the masks, more cases, ect.  I posted this in the "other" thread.  This is the CDC (yes I know the CDC) numbers for COVID19 deaths through June 20, 2020.

You will note, the number of deaths has decreased since April of 2020.  No word in the MSM about this, not much on hear about this. 

Cases up but deaths down.  What does that mean?   The people testing positive are better able to cope with the diease, increasing the notion of herd immunity. 

So, why the push for masks?    I firmly believe its an attempt to ensure we know who is in charge. 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

So, if the number of deaths has continued to decline, what about the hospitalizations you ask. 

That number to has flattened (again from the CDC and yes I know). 

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

So, its a plan to control us, make us fear, make us afraid, allow them to control us. 

 

Holy smoke !  You mean there is a plan to control us.  How did that work ?

A bunch of really bad dudes ( or maybe Dems ) sitting around in a room having a drink and one guy says to the others "Hey, I've got an idea, we can control the while world if we make them wear a mask !. Let's do it, let's control everyone in the world and make them were a mask.  Wouldn't that be great !  We can control the whole world by making them were a mask.

Don't let them know there is no real threat with COV19. People aren't sick, they aren't dying. Cases aren't going up all over the sun belt. Hospitals there aren't at critical levels. No one really fears COV19, especially not the 125,000 or so that have already died, and their family members. We can get CNN to put alot of false information on TV so our plan to control everybody might work. We'll just make up a bunch of numbers so we can control them and make them wear a mask.

I hope no one finds out about our evil plan, because if they do, they won't wear a mask and then where will we be !

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« Reply #87 on: June 30, 2020, 09:51:25 AM »

Holy smoke !  You mean there is a plan to control us.  How did that work ?

A bunch of really bad dudes ( or maybe Dems ) sitting around in a room having a drink and one guy says to the others "Hey, I've got an idea, we can control the while world if we make them wear a mask !. Let's do it, let's control everyone in the world and make them were a mask.  Wouldn't that be great !  We can control the whole world by making them were a mask.

Don't let them know there is no real threat with COV19. People aren't sick, they aren't dying. Cases aren't going up all over the sun belt. Hospitals there aren't at critical levels. No one really fears COV19, especially not the 125,000 or so that have already died, and their family members. We can get CNN to put alot of false information on TV so our plan to control everybody might work. We'll just make up a bunch of numbers so we can control them and make them wear a mask.

I hope no one finds out about our evil plan, because if they do, they won't wear a mask and then where will we be !

Typical of so many.  You construct a straw man and then sarcastically exclaim how it is false.  Of course it's false!  You built it.  No one else was involved.

False arguments, lacking in real elements for a discussion.  
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« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2020, 04:57:52 PM »

Holy smoke !  You mean there is a plan to control us.  How did that work ?

A bunch of really bad dudes ( or maybe Dems ) sitting around in a room having a drink and one guy says to the others "Hey, I've got an idea, we can control the while world if we make them wear a mask !. Let's do it, let's control everyone in the world and make them were a mask.  Wouldn't that be great !  We can control the whole world by making them were a mask.

Don't let them know there is no real threat with COV19. People aren't sick, they aren't dying. Cases aren't going up all over the sun belt. Hospitals there aren't at critical levels. No one really fears COV19, especially not the 125,000 or so that have already died, and their family members. We can get CNN to put alot of false information on TV so our plan to control everybody might work. We'll just make up a bunch of numbers so we can control them and make them wear a mask.

I hope no one finds out about our evil plan, because if they do, they won't wear a mask and then where will we be !

Typical of so many.  You construct a straw man and then sarcastically exclaim how it is false.  Of course it's false!  You built it.  No one else was involved.

False arguments, lacking in real elements for a discussion.  


Very typical from the right. Call it false with absolutely no facts to back it up. Happens alot in the WH too.

I have to wonder what the alleged false arguments are ? Lacking real elements for discussion ?

I'm pretty sure there is a real threat from COVID19

I'm pretty sure people have been and are getting sick and dying,

I'm pretty sure cases are going up all over the sun belt, where I live

And I'm pretty sure I watched several health care folks, both doctors and nurses, interviewed on TV and clearly stated they were reaching full capacity and very few beds left in ICU units in those same states.

The only statement I think is false would be the unsubstantiated one about there being a 'them' that wants to control us by making us wear a mask.   

Sounds like another conspiracy theory like many from the far-right online media that are so prevalent these days.




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« Reply #89 on: June 30, 2020, 05:40:27 PM »

People getting sick ? maybe.

People dying - yes, but not at the rate they're trying to convince us of ( like - it's like under 2%) .

Open up and let it spread. Best way to get the herd immunity going.
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« Reply #90 on: June 30, 2020, 05:42:17 PM »

( like - it's like under 2%)

“The studies I have any faith in are tending to converge around 0.5–1%"

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01738-2
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« Reply #91 on: June 30, 2020, 06:08:46 PM »



Open up and let it spread. Best way to get the herd immunity going.

No guarantees there.  At a guesstimated <10% current exposure nationally that could be a tough row to hoe.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/columbia-doctor-study-coronavirus-antibodies-fade

https://www.fox19.com/video/2020/06/29/fauci-us-reaching-coronavirus-heard-immunity-not-likely/
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« Reply #92 on: June 30, 2020, 06:26:17 PM »

 I will NOT be wearing a mask back to work at my desk 6 feet apart since OSHA says masks do no good on Covid 19 as well as if under 19.5% oxygen level wearing a mask harms me is not safe.  
Cookie where did you get a number like 19.5% oxygen level when wearing a mask?  You being college educated should know that that # is NOT compatible with life dont you? 2funny 2funny 2funny
Amazing.
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« Reply #93 on: June 30, 2020, 06:30:37 PM »

Very typical from the right. Call it false with absolutely no facts to back it up. Happens alot in the WH too.

I have to wonder what the alleged false arguments are ? Lacking real elements for discussion ?  

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You have to wonder?  I rather specifically stated it was the straw man you set up that represents what almost no one is saying.

Typical from the right?  LOL!  I don't think so.  There are certainly some from the right and some from the left who do so.  You fit into the group that certainly spans the spectrum.

It was my mistake responding to you.  I already knew you weren't up for a logical discussion.
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« Reply #94 on: June 30, 2020, 06:41:06 PM »

 I will NOT be wearing a mask back to work at my desk 6 feet apart since OSHA says masks do no good on Covid 19 as well as if under 19.5% oxygen level wearing a mask harms me is not safe.  
Cookie where did you get a number like 19.5% oxygen level when wearing a mask?  You being college educated should know that that # is NOT compatible with life dont you? 2funny 2funny 2funny
Amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3STOGvsVCPs&feature=youtu.be

watch the 7:30 mark on:  around 21 percent is normal oxygen atmosphere level but 19.5% and under is oxygen deficient atmosphere and if you wear the masks it can go under 19.5% which is deficient since oxygen is being replaced by carbon dioxide by breathing into the mask (watch the 10 minute mark) on the oxygen monitor machine.  

19.5 percent is not your oxygen level, it is the atmosphere oxygen level around you in the air.   Although my Dad about 1 month before he died had an oxygen level only around 32 which in his body he was passing out at home due to lack of oxygen to his brain, of which I caught in time but for only 1 month is all before passing I drug him that day to his car unable to walk to his Dr. ASAP needing emergency pacemaker surgery ASAP.  His Dr. said if he did not get into surgery ASAP he would not make it home and is true he passed out 2xs needing to be zapped back in the waiting room needing ASAP pacemaker surgery.   That freaked my mom and myself out watching his eyes roll back into his head due to lack of oxygen.  I think the damage was done though but he said he felt great after pacemaker surgery but knew something was still not right.
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« Reply #95 on: June 30, 2020, 06:50:51 PM »

 I will NOT be wearing a mask back to work at my desk 6 feet apart since OSHA says masks do no good on Covid 19 as well as if under 19.5% oxygen level wearing a mask harms me is not safe.  
Cookie where did you get a number like 19.5% oxygen level when wearing a mask?  You being college educated should know that that # is NOT compatible with life dont you? 2funny 2funny 2funny
Amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3STOGvsVCPs&feature=youtu.be

watch the 7:30 mark on:  around 21 percent is normal oxygen atmosphere level but 19.5% and under is oxygen deficient atmosphere and if you wear the masks it can go under 19.5% which is deficient since oxygen is being replaced by carbon dioxide by breathing into the mask (watch the 10 minute mark) on the oxygen monitor machine.  

19.5 percent is not your oxygen level, it is the atmosphere oxygen level around you in the air.   Although my Dad about 1 month before he died had an oxygen level only around 32 which in his body he was passing out at home due to lack of oxygen to his brain, of which I caught in time but for only 1 month is all before passing I drug him that day to his car unable to walk to his Dr. ASAP needing emergency pacemaker surgery ASAP.  His Dr. said if he did not get into surgery ASAP he would not make it home and is true he passed out 2xs needing to be zapped back in the waiting room needing ASAP pacemaker surgery.   That freaked my mom and myself out watching his eyes roll back into his head due to lack of oxygen.  I think the damage was done though but he said he felt great after pacemaker surgery but knew something was still not right.
So you are saying that medical professionals like surgeons that are in surgery for hours on end are oxygen deprived?  Those #’s are BS. As stated before been wearing one for 35 yrs daily and no ill effects not 1. If you are so dead set against wearing one dont but when you find yourself looking for a job please
Dont file for unemployment I am tired of pulling the train that supports non-workers thanks.
Oh and BTW OSHA is not a health organization they are a work place saftey organization so dont think they can save you from a company policy that is NOT dangerous.
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« Reply #96 on: June 30, 2020, 06:57:56 PM »



Open up and let it spread. Best way to get the herd immunity going.

No guarantees there.  At a guesstimated <10% current exposure nationally that could be a tough row to hoe.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/columbia-doctor-study-coronavirus-antibodies-fade

https://www.fox19.com/video/2020/06/29/fauci-us-reaching-coronavirus-heard-immunity-not-likely/

Even if herd immunity doesn't happen - there is no reason to cower in fear of C-19. The vast majority of people (except for the very aged, with pre-existing conditions, most likely in long term care facility) are going to be alright.

One of my wife's co-workers, who started the same day she did, is living in what I consider over reaction, irrational fear. She is having groceries delivered (while working at home), and is very careful about trying to disinfect the packages her food comes in. I go out (up until now w/o mask), shop (observing social distancing, but not really overly concerned otherwise), bring the groceries in and put them away without a second thought (no disinfecting required). Everybody in our house (2 Type 2 diabetics 55-59 yrs, one 82 year old MIL) is just fine so far. MIL goes out and does her own grocery shopping (but I'm not sure what protocols she follows - unless somebody reminds her, she likely isn't social distancing).
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« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2020, 07:16:00 PM »

 I will NOT be wearing a mask back to work at my desk 6 feet apart since OSHA says masks do no good on Covid 19 as well as if under 19.5% oxygen level wearing a mask harms me is not safe.  
Cookie where did you get a number like 19.5% oxygen level when wearing a mask?  You being college educated should know that that # is NOT compatible with life dont you? 2funny 2funny 2funny
Amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3STOGvsVCPs&feature=youtu.be

watch the 7:30 mark on:  around 21 percent is normal oxygen atmosphere level but 19.5% and under is oxygen deficient atmosphere and if you wear the masks it can go under 19.5% which is deficient since oxygen is being replaced by carbon dioxide by breathing into the mask (watch the 10 minute mark) on the oxygen monitor machine.  

19.5 percent is not your oxygen level, it is the atmosphere oxygen level around you in the air.   Although my Dad about 1 month before he died had an oxygen level only around 32 which in his body he was passing out at home due to lack of oxygen to his brain, of which I caught in time but for only 1 month is all before passing I drug him that day to his car unable to walk to his Dr. ASAP needing emergency pacemaker surgery ASAP.  His Dr. said if he did not get into surgery ASAP he would not make it home and is true he passed out 2xs needing to be zapped back in the waiting room needing ASAP pacemaker surgery.   That freaked my mom and myself out watching his eyes roll back into his head due to lack of oxygen.  I think the damage was done though but he said he felt great after pacemaker surgery but knew something was still not right.
So you are saying that medical professionals like surgeons that are in surgery for hours on end are oxygen deprived?  Those #’s are BS. As stated before been wearing one for 35 yrs daily and no ill effects not 1. If you are so dead set against wearing one dont but when you find yourself looking for a job please
Dont file for unemployment I am tired of pulling the train that supports non-workers thanks.
Oh and BTW OSHA is not a health organization they are a work place saftey organization so dont think they can save you from a company policy that is NOT dangerous.

Am I mistaken but companies have to follow OHSA rules/guidelines correct?   Undecided
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« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2020, 07:54:47 PM »




I go out (up until now w/o mask), shop (observing social distancing, but not really overly concerned otherwise), bring the groceries in and put them away without a second thought (no disinfecting required). Everybody in our house (2 Type 2 diabetics 55-59 yrs, one 82 year old MIL) is just fine so far. MIL goes out and does her own grocery shopping (but I'm not sure what protocols she follows - unless somebody reminds her, she likely isn't social distancing).

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« Reply #99 on: June 30, 2020, 08:27:21 PM »

Very typical from the right. Call it false with absolutely no facts to back it up. Happens alot in the WH too.

I have to wonder what the alleged false arguments are ? Lacking real elements for discussion ?  

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You have to wonder?  I rather specifically stated it was the straw man you set up that represents what almost no one is saying.

Typical from the right?  LOL!  I don't think so.  There are certainly some from the right and some from the left who do so.  You fit into the group that certainly spans the spectrum.

It was my mistake responding to you.  I already knew you weren't up for a logical discussion.


Your responding to stated true facts and exact quotes, as recorded by both audio and video tape as "laughable at best and pathetic at worst" only shows your inability to rationally discuss an important issue and the tactics you take to avoid the truth.

You should come down off your high horse and deal with the truth and facts every once in a while. Try it you might like it.

Maybe then you could actually have a logical discussion.

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« Reply #100 on: July 01, 2020, 04:11:04 AM »


Am I mistaken but companies have to follow OHSA rules/guidelines correct?   Undecided
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OSHA standards are minimum standards, individual company's can exceed them at their discretion.  We all wear masks at work when we are not able to social distance a 6 foot minimum. When I came to the understanding that wearing the mask had nothing to do with keeping me from catching the virus but rather possibly minimizing my ability to spread it to others thru airborne particulates that my mask will catch a fair amount of it kind of became a non issue. I see it as being respectful of others in certain situations where distancing isn't possible and it really isn't that big of an inconvenience so I choose to do so without bitching about it.
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Am I mistaken but companies have to follow OHSA rules/guidelines correct?   Undecided

OSHA standards are minimum standards, individual company's can exceed them at their discretion.  We all wear masks at work when we are not able to social distance a 6 foot minimum. When I came to the understanding that wearing the mask had nothing to do with keeping me from catching the virus but rather possibly minimizing my ability to spread it to others thru airborne particulates that my mask will catch a fair amount of it kind of became a non issue. I see it as being respectful of others in certain situations where distancing isn't possible and it really isn't that big of an inconvenience so I choose to do so without bitching about it.
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If OSHA minimum oxygen level is 19.5% and companies go below that minimum by wearing their crappy masks, then that is a violation.  Masks are not PPE.    Agree though,  if not able to social distance a 6 foot mininum, like leaving my office space well over 6 feet apart,  I will also wear a mask, but not at my desk all alone away from everyone is pointless and will affect my health.  Plus,  NOT all masks are created equal some able to breath thru easier and some not.  My work requires to use their masks which are not very breathable thru vs. using my own which is more like a hankerchief velcrod on the back allowing more airflow beneath the chin.   My wife's office space at work, if they ever get back into the office since WI is on the uprise again of viruse cases going UP,  was even told NO standing at her desk for fear of the virus going OVER the partitions onto someone else's desk.  This will not sit well with the office ladies at her work and my work since a few feel the need to stand up while keying on their PC, helps their back and health standing up vs. sitting down all day.  One lady at my work stands up over 1/2 the day and even runs in place, sorta odd, but she says it helps her health.  I say companies then much like stores are doing is put up taller plexiglass walls on the cubicles to prevent the kung flu from going over into another person's work area.  Now that our offices are nearly re-done with more office space a 10 million dollar renovation,  there also should be plenty of empty office spaces to setup nearly everyone in the offices to skip an office space between us all.
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« Reply #102 on: July 01, 2020, 08:25:10 AM »

I wouldn't make any decisions based on that video. Far from established professional sources.

I am not buying the decreased O2 levels because of the mask. We did a little test at the fire station a few weeks ago when someone brought this up and using a bi-ox meter attached to a person measures % o2 in your blood) and had him establish a baseline first with no mask for 15 minutes and then wear a mask for 15 minutes and there was absolutely no change in O2 levels.
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« Reply #103 on: July 01, 2020, 10:34:57 AM »

I wouldn't make any decisions based on that video. Far from established professional sources.

I am not buying the decreased O2 levels because of the mask. We did a little test at the fire station a few weeks ago when someone brought this up and using a bi-ox meter attached to a person measures % o2 in your blood) and had him establish a baseline first with no mask for 15 minutes and then wear a mask for 15 minutes and there was absolutely no change in O2 levels.

does your fire dept. have an oxygen level tester like the guy did wearing the mask that measures the atmosphere level of oxgen?   I would be curious if not a fish mask like he had on in that video but a regular mask we all see around would deplete that sensor machine in the mask to below 19.5%. 
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« Reply #104 on: July 01, 2020, 03:21:33 PM »

It's strange how political the subject has become. I haven't had to wear one much since I retired a month ago. New Mexico required them when we went thru there a few weeks back. Other than that I've been pretty much mask free. The other day I stopped at Circle K for gas and a coffee. They had a sign on their door requesting customers to wear one. Went back to the truck but couldn't find one. Went on my way. Today I was headed to the dump and thought I'd stop for a coffee at a different Circle K. Masked up and walked in. Got my coffee and got in line. As I'm waiting I'm noticing the lack of masks. The clerk had one on but it was pulled down under her chin, a vendor had one on but same thing down under his chin. 21 other customers there, not one mask. As I'm walking out I'm chucking to myself how well their request is working out. Another customer walks by. He does have a mask on. 2 out of 24 ain't too bad.  Shocked
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« Reply #105 on: July 01, 2020, 04:47:23 PM »

As I've said - store requests , I POLITELY REFUSE AND GO IN MASKLESS. Store requires (or the stupid governor mandates one) - begrudingly wear one (AND LET THEM KNOW I'm not happy).
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« Reply #106 on: July 02, 2020, 04:57:28 PM »

Texas governor orders all Texans to wear masks
Texas governor Greg Abbott today issued an executive order requiring all Texans to wear face masks at public gatherings. Here’s the announcement from Abbott’s office:

AUSTIN - Governor Greg Abbott today issued an Executive Order requiring all Texans to wear a face covering over the nose and mouth in public spaces in counties with 20 or more positive COVID-19 cases, with few exceptions. The Governor also issued a proclamation giving mayors and county judges the ability to impose restrictions on some outdoor gatherings of over 10 people, and making it mandatory that, with certain exceptions, people cannot be in groups larger than ten and must maintain six feet of social distancing from others.

“Wearing a face covering in public is proven to be one of the most effective ways we have to slow the spread of COVID-19,” said Governor Abbott. “We have the ability to keep businesses open and move our economy forward so that Texans can continue to earn a paycheck, but it requires each of us to do our part to protect one another—and that means wearing a face covering in public spaces. Likewise, large gatherings are a clear contributor to the rise in COVID-19 cases. Restricting the size of groups gatherings will strengthen Texas’ ability to corral this virus and keep Texans safe. We all have a responsibility to slow the spread of COVID-19 and keep our communities safe. If Texans commit to wearing face coverings in public spaces and follow the best health and safety practices, we can both slow the spread of COVID-19 and keep Texas open for business. I urge all Texans to wear a face covering in public, not just for their own health, but for the health of their families, friends, and for all our fellow Texans.”
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« Reply #107 on: July 02, 2020, 09:40:56 PM »

Texas governor orders all Texans to wear masks
Texas governor Greg Abbott today issued an executive order requiring all Texans to wear face masks at public gatherings. Here’s the announcement from Abbott’s office:

AUSTIN - Governor Greg Abbott today issued an Executive Order requiring all Texans to wear a face covering over the nose and mouth in public spaces in counties with 20 or more positive COVID-19 cases, with few exceptions. The Governor also issued a proclamation giving mayors and county judges the ability to impose restrictions on some outdoor gatherings of over 10 people, and making it mandatory that, with certain exceptions, people cannot be in groups larger than ten and must maintain six feet of social distancing from others.

“Wearing a face covering in public is proven to be one of the most effective ways we have to slow the spread of COVID-19,” said Governor Abbott. “We have the ability to keep businesses open and move our economy forward so that Texans can continue to earn a paycheck, but it requires each of us to do our part to protect one another—and that means wearing a face covering in public spaces. Likewise, large gatherings are a clear contributor to the rise in COVID-19 cases. Restricting the size of groups gatherings will strengthen Texas’ ability to corral this virus and keep Texans safe. We all have a responsibility to slow the spread of COVID-19 and keep our communities safe. If Texans commit to wearing face coverings in public spaces and follow the best health and safety practices, we can both slow the spread of COVID-19 and keep Texas open for business. I urge all Texans to wear a face covering in public, not just for their own health, but for the health of their families, friends, and for all our fellow Texans.”

there goes Serk's outings, except the ones where he takes the kiddos out to his land and shoots and shoots and shoots amongst their own family members. 

Like said,  if the store requires it I will wear a mask or if in public gatherings which we all should try to avoid if possible wear one, but not sitting at my desk at work 10 feet away from anyone else minding my own business no sense in it.  Easy enough to do spread the workers 2 desks apart that way is well over 15 feet away from one another.

found out yesterday my age 22 daughter and her 25 year old boyfriend just got into a riff argument over social distancing.  He wants to go up with her to their parents cabin up north this weekend with his parents who own it but my daughter does NOT. I think he is going up alone to the cabin without my daugher with his parents, and he is pissed off about it, oh well....     His younger brother just got over COVID and his parents could have it seeing their virus son when he had it, since even his younger brothers girlfriend about same age 22 or so is confined to stay at home as well for around 14 days isolation.   My daughter works in a daycare facility kids ages 3 on up and does not want to get infected spreading it to young kids let alone herself.  Not sure if the younger brother is going up to cabin without girlfriend has been over 14 days and feeling better, but he still could have it right and can spread it right?   

only one I know who had covid virus in my own world.   I will not live in fear over this virus unlike my wife's mom age 78 sort of petrified over getting it a worry wort.  Only stores I have gone in once a week tops is Aldi,  2 grocery stores, hardware store, and Walmart pretty much and only 90 total cases in my small Green County region with 1 death reported in say a 50 mile rural radius or so.
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« Reply #108 on: July 03, 2020, 08:00:59 AM »

there goes Serk's outings, except the ones where he takes the kiddos out to his land and shoots and shoots and shoots amongst their own family members. 

Won't be going out to the land for a while, we've reached the time of year where most Texans stop bragging about how warm it is in the winter, if ya' know what I mean...

I've been voluntarily wearing a face mask all along, but now that it's REQUIRED, I've just ordered a bunch of these, so I can meet the letter of the "law" while showing just how ineffective and useless this whole thing is:

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« Reply #109 on: July 03, 2020, 08:07:49 AM »

Do you wear underwear?  Does it stop a fart?  If you can breath in through that cloth mask when you breath out well think of that fart. It gets through  uglystupid2
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« Reply #110 on: July 03, 2020, 08:18:42 AM »

there goes Serk's outings, except the ones where he takes the kiddos out to his land and shoots and shoots and shoots amongst their own family members. 

Won't be going out to the land for a while, we've reached the time of year where most Texans stop bragging about how warm it is in the winter, if ya' know what I mean...

I've been voluntarily wearing a face mask all along, but now that it's REQUIRED, I've just ordered a bunch of these, so I can meet the letter of the "law" while showing just how ineffective and useless this whole thing is:



I like it - I think I need one.
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« Reply #111 on: July 03, 2020, 08:20:47 AM »

Physicians are idiots.  They recommend masks in crowded areas where distancing is not possible.  They even have the gall were them in hospitals.  As you say I'm pretty sure it's not to filter out smelly farts.  

Maybe just maybe if more Texans had done like Serk and worn them in public when they were voluntary like Governor Abbott was hoping, he wouldn't have had to mandate them.  He did not want to.
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« Reply #112 on: July 03, 2020, 08:23:06 AM »

Why do they need to "mandate" them at all ? Tell the people the risks and let them go....
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« Reply #113 on: July 03, 2020, 08:32:15 AM »

Why do they need to "mandate" them at all ? Tell the people the risks and let them go....

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« Reply #114 on: July 03, 2020, 08:33:46 AM »

Why do they need to "mandate" them at all ? Tell the people the risks and let them go....

Precisely why I said I lean toward Rick Scott's philosophy, educate don't mandate.  Unfortunately some folks are hard to educate.  You'd think they have confused voluntary maskng in public with forced castration!

I don't believe in lockdown or mandatory mask wearing.  I also don't make the rules.  It almost looks like the virus is making the rules.  I don't know, ask Governor Abbott why.  He also hated the idea of mandating masks.

We are where we're at.  It is what it is.
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« Reply #116 on: July 03, 2020, 09:19:42 AM »



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« Reply #117 on: July 04, 2020, 04:10:59 PM »

Do you wear underwear?  Does it stop a fart?  If you can breath in through that cloth mask when you breath out well think of that fart. It gets through  uglystupid2

yah, but my farts do not stink...... so cannot tell if my farts get thru or not?    Grin
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« Reply #118 on: July 04, 2020, 04:13:26 PM »

Much respect to this Texas state rep:



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« Reply #119 on: July 04, 2020, 04:14:28 PM »

I was out and about near 4 hours of interstate driving on Thursday and Friday, today.  Traffic was considerably lighter than expected on the roads at this time of year and the few places we did go into almost all were wearing masks again unlike a month or two ago.  
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