More Kung Flu testing

[Patrick]

More and more of these are being performed with positive results. But that seems to be the end of it. Never hear about the actual results. Are all these folks asymptomatic ? Or are all these tests coming up false positive ? I'm not hearing anything.

[Oss]

had a nurse in my office today who says they have had several workers get the chinese virus more than once

egads

It is possible that not everybody develops antibodies or that they do not always last

cursed chinese communist party should be getting a whippin and soon

[98valk]

the tests are fake. all they are doing is building a national DNA database.

https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/

According to Jason Hommel, a prolific writer and researcher and also the author of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”:

“PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.”

Asked by Farber what his advice for people who want to be tested for COVID-19, he replied:

“Don’t do it, I say, when people ask me. No healthy person should be tested. It means nothing but it can destroy your life, make you absolutely miserable. Every time somebody takes a swab, a tissue sample of their DNA, it goes into a government database. It’s to track us. They’re not just looking for the virus. Please put that in your article.”

He added:

“PCR for diagnosis is a big problem. When you have to amplify it these huge numbers of time, it’s going to generate massive amounts of false positives. Again, I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true.”

human body has over 300 viruses. so yea everybody will test positive for a virus
https://www.inverse.com/article/49747-what-is-the-human-virome

It has been estimated that there are over 380 trillion viruses inhabiting us, a community collectively known as the human virome. But these viruses are not the dangerous ones you commonly hear about, like those that cause the flu or the common cold, or more sinister infections like Ebola or dengue. Many of these viruses infect the bacteria that live inside you and are known as bacteriophages, or phages for short. The human body is a breeding ground for phages, and despite their abundance, we have very little insight into what all they or any of the other viruses in the body are doing.

I am a physician-scientist studying the human microbiome by focusing on viruses,

[Patrick]

Interesting !

[Valkorado]

I am a physician-scientist studying the human microbiome by focusing on viruses,

I never knew that about you, 98!  I'll have to start taking your C-19 posts more seriously.   

[98valk]

I am a physician-scientist studying the human microbiome by focusing on viruses,

I never knew that about you, 98!  I'll have to start taking your C-19 posts more seriously.   

that's from the article, proof u didn't read it.

[Valkorado]

I am a physician-scientist studying the human microbiome by focusing on viruses,

I never knew that about you, 98!  I'll have to start taking your C-19 posts more seriously.   

that's from the article, proof u didn't read it.

That was a joke.  I read the article, FWIW.  I've read many you post, including the ones about 5G towers and DNA tracking databases.

[98valk]

I am a physician-scientist studying the human microbiome by focusing on viruses,

I never knew that about you, 98!  I'll have to start taking your C-19 posts more seriously.   

that's from the article, proof u didn't read it.

That was a joke.  I read the article, FWIW.  I've read many you post, including the ones about 5G towers and DNA tracking databases.

 

[cookiedough]

I got tested today more so because I did not want to be at work than anything else for 3 hours this afternoon.  Actually  the wife wanted to get tested for she has chills,  headaches, body aches all over, and lethargic/tired all the time.  I also feel lethargic and tons more tired lately as well with headaches but no body aches and no chills all over. 

Also, wanted to get tested even though I think the tests are not much more than 50% accurate IMO since if I have to go see mom in asst. living soon I do not want to give it to her.

[3fan4life]

I got tested today more so because I did not want to be at work than anything else for 3 hours this afternoon.  Actually  the wife wanted to get tested for she has chills,  headaches, body aches all over, and lethargic/tired all the time.  I also feel lethargic and tons more tired lately as well with headaches but no body aches and no chills all over. 

Also, wanted to get tested even though I think the tests are not much more than 50% accurate IMO since if I have to go see mom in asst. living soon I do not want to give it to her.

Anyone having symptoms should be checked.

If positive I would insist on the chloroquine, zinc and azithromycin drug regimen.

The side effects of these drugs are minimal and there is some pretty good evidence that if used early they work.


And by all means DON'T go visit your mom until you are confirmed to be negative.

[3fan4life]

had a nurse in my office today who says they have had several workers get the chinese virus more than once

egads

It is possible that not everybody develops antibodies or that they do not always last

cursed chinese communist party should be getting a whippin and soon

I read an article about this last week.

The consensus was that people weren't getting reinfected.

Rather their bodies hadn't been fully cleared of the virus to begin with.

[Willow]

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And by all means DON'T go visit your mom until you are confirmed to be negative.  

I assume you are referencing after a positive test result as actually being tested and confirmed negative only applies to that moment which by the time one gets the results is in the past.    

[cookiedough]

got the results back via email today both the wife and me are negative for covid 19.  So, how accurate are these tests with a swab up the both nostrils?  50 60 or 75 or 85 percent accurate?

One would hate to visit a family member or close friend, especially older, and give the virus to them?

[3fan4life]

got the results back via email today both the wife and me are negative for covid 19.  So, how accurate are these tests with a swab up the both nostrils?  50 60 or 75 or 85 percent accurate?

One would hate to visit a family member or close friend, especially older, and give the virus to them?

Glad to hear that you're both negative. 


I don't know about the accuracy of the tests but my understanding is that they pop more false positives than negatives.

[98valk]

got the results back via email today both the wife and me are negative for covid 19.  So, how accurate are these tests with a swab up the both nostrils?  50 60 or 75 or 85 percent accurate?

One would hate to visit a family member or close friend, especially older, and give the virus to them?

I would suggest for yourself and your loved ones to do everything to boost your immune system and avoid sugar which depresses it. take Vitamin D3 drops supplement. Also other immune system supplements, Liposomal vitamin c and Glutathione Antioxidant Complex.  Also there are very good herb immune boosting supplements.
God Bless.

Coronavirus and its 500 mostly harmless strains have been known for decades. The identification process for “new” COVID (or 2019-nCoV) virus has been ludicrously inconsistent from the very beginning. At every level – federal, state, local. For the first month, the viral strain was not even identified. So anybody who got sick with anything was likely to be included, with no testing at all. By symptoms only. That was to create a news story. There was the preconceived agenda. Then in January, when they finally decided to say it was a new strain that was infecting everybody, that’s when they named it 2019-nCoV, in which n stands for novel, lest anyone forget we’re claiming this is a brand new bug. But then politics took over and somebody decided they didn’t like that name. So voila – COVID. Politics eclipses science.

THE SCIENCE OF TESTING

Now for the bad news. What is the test they claim to use to identify this new bug in a patient? The test is called PCR. This is the classic polymerase chain reaction test, invented in the 80s by Dr Kary Mullis. In 40 years doctors have never come up with any test more accurate than this very flawed, theoretical estimate of microbial activity.

    The test produces loads of false positives, often failing to measure anything at all.
    No one is more critical of the test’s reliability than the inventor himself.
    Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel prize for inventing PCR to detect HIV, [9] explains its limitations—why the PCR is not especially diagnostic, for HIV or for anything else:

“Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron. PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV.

“The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.” [9]

Can’t identify viruses? Then how do we know all these people have the same disease, let alone the same novel disease? This means that with all these people who have supposedly been PCR tested for COVID, there is still no conclusive diagnostic evidence that they have any coronaviruses at all. Let alone the same virus.  According to the inventor of the primary diagnostic test. (Mullis’s testimony about the limits of PCR actually helped acquit OJ. Though Johnny didn’t seem to need much help there, did he?)

LIMITS OF POLYMERASE CHAIN REACTION TEST

PCR is not a test that isolates, identifies, or even detects any particular virus. If you’re sick and have some viral fragments, the PCR test just amplifies those sequences millions of times, from the sample. For the more scientifically minded, here’s a source that’s a review of the literature on the weakness and unreliability of the polymerase chain reaction: [ Regulatory Concern of PCR [2] Yet the PCR test remains the standard that is cited by all corporate media as the means for diagnosing coronavirus all over the world.

A little research shows us that any association with viral disease from PCR is just a theory at best – just an estimate.  Nothing like an exact science that says definitively Ebola or HIV virus or coronavirus is present in this patient.  Which is what everyday media and everyday science is pretending with coronavirus, pounding it into their undiscriminating readers’ heads, week after week.

But wait. The false science gets much worse than that. There’s no evidence the PCR test is even being used at all!
https://ttfuture.org/blog/michael/why-coronavirus-will-soon-vanish-overnight

Coronavirus: The Truth about PCR Test Kit from the Inventor and Other Experts
https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/

https://pediaa.com/difference-between-pcr-and-rt-pcr/

[F6Dave]

This is over a month old so it may be resolved, but I wouldn't bet on it.  The FDA and 11 states were mixing the results from two very different types of tests.

• The VIRAL (or PCR) test determines if the virus is present in your nasal tract.  A positive result  indicates someone is shedding active virus particles, therefore currently infected and likely to infect others.
• The ANTIBODY test determines if COVID-19 (IgM or IgG) antibodies are present in you blood.  A positive IgM result indicates a recent infection and a positive IgG result indicates a past infection.

By mixing these results the reported number of 'new' cases becomes meaningless, because some of those cases were people who were sick months ago, when C-19 first emerged here.  I know two young people who were very sick in January and February, but didn't suspect C-19 at the time since there were no 'official' cases here yet.  They both tested positive for IgG antibodies in May, and may have been erroneously reported as 'new' cases.

[98valk]

This is over a month old so it may be resolved, but I wouldn't bet on it.  The FDA and 11 states were mixing the results from two very different types of tests.

• The VIRAL (or PCR) test determines if the virus is present in your nasal tract.  A positive result  indicates someone is shedding active virus particles, therefore currently infected and likely to infect others.
• The ANTIBODY test determines if COVID-19 (IgM or IgG) antibodies are present in you blood.  A positive IgM result indicates a recent infection and a positive IgG result indicates a past infection.

By mixing these results the reported number of 'new' cases becomes meaningless, because some of those cases were people who were sick months ago, when C-19 first emerged here.  I know two young people who were very sick in January and February, but didn't suspect C-19 at the time since there were no 'official' cases here yet.  They both tested positive for IgG antibodies in May, and may have been erroneously reported as 'new' cases.

antibody tests are flawed well documented.  even these AB tests used for other things always have resulted in inconsistent results over the yrs.

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/antibody-testing-rollout-is-also-riddled-with-flaws-inaccurate-results-shortages-and-doctor-mishandling/

[Jersey mike]

My daughter has a friend whose family (here in N.J.) is apparently very wealthy. Well anyway, her friend and her family members get tested about 2-3 times a month because they all live a very active lifestyle. I believe my daughter told me her friend or family have never had back to back positive tests. They’ve had a positive, no symptoms and followed us by negative. Apparently this has been going on since April or May.

So testing...who knows. I’m not interested.

[F6Dave]

For two people I know who tested positive, there is little doubt they had C-19 early this year.  They don't know each other and haven't met, but their symptoms were nearly identical and there's no doubt whatsoever they were both infected.

Of course there are false positives and negatives, but this is hardly a new science and a small percentage of errors doesn't render all results invalid.