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Serk
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« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2020, 06:07:04 PM »

As long as you wear a mask, social distance, hand sanitize and stay inside, you're healthy! You can then eat all the crap you want, not exercise etc! It's science!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpGjeOhhVOI

And smoke and drink.  Don't forget to smoke and drink heavily!   2funny

Other than the occasional cigar I quit smoking 12+ years ago.... drinking, however, I do for my kid's safety..... Wink
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« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2020, 06:20:05 PM »

We are #1????  YES WE ARE!!! The best, cleanest, most fun place to live and work the world has ever know.

Oh you mean we are #1 about the virus????  REALLY!!!!

In total cases identified?  In deaths related to the China Virus?

Who is generating these numbers you are comparing?  The WHO   Grin  Grin  Grin   The CDC  Grin  Grin  Grin

Where are the numbers coming from?  

Anyone who compares our numbers, be it deaths, or cases, to another country has to really, really consider the country and how their numbers are generated.  

just for instance.  Lets look at the number from the link below (which I have followed since the beginning).

Total cases worldwide 25,872,979

Cases listed in:

USA    6,254,639
India   3,766,108
China       85,058

REALLY!...... India has half the case of the China virus as compared to the US.  

REALLY!..... China has about 1/74 of the number of cases we had????????????  

My point is, numbers only count here at home for comparison over time. Comparing to another country has to be done with skepticism, and a real long look.  And probably should not be done at all.  

https://coronavirus.thebaselab.com

Keep in mind that I am not affiliated with any of the statistical websites, and was only commenting on the numbers Mike had posted.  They ain't my numbers.  I'm kinda a numbers, schumbers guy.  We can try to take a tally when it's all said and done, then we can argue the tally for decades.  Something to look forward to, I s'pose.

It's notable that "your" site also gives the US overall top billing.  Will we end up there when C-19 is in the history books?  Time will tell...

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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2020, 06:22:30 PM »

As long as you wear a mask, social distance, hand sanitize and stay inside, you're healthy! You can then eat all the crap you want, not exercise etc! It's science!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpGjeOhhVOI

And smoke and drink.  Don't forget to smoke and drink heavily!   2funny

Other than the occasional cigar I quit smoking 12+ years ago.... drinking, however, I do for my kid's safety..... Wink


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Jersey mike
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« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2020, 06:35:19 PM »

We are #1????  YES WE ARE!!! The best, cleanest, most fun place to live and work the world has ever know.

Oh you mean we are #1 about the virus????  REALLY!!!!

In total cases identified?  In deaths related to the China Virus?

Who is generating these numbers you are comparing?  The WHO   Grin  Grin  Grin   The CDC  Grin  Grin  Grin

Where are the numbers coming from?  

Anyone who compares our numbers, be it deaths, or cases, to another country has to really, really consider the country and how their numbers are generated.  

just for instance.  Lets look at the number from the link below (which I have followed since the beginning).

Total cases worldwide 25,872,979

Cases listed in:

USA    6,254,639
India   3,766,108
China       85,058

REALLY!...... India has half the case of the China virus as compared to the US.  

REALLY!..... China has about 1/74 of the number of cases we had????????????  

My point is, numbers only count here at home for comparison over time. Comparing to another country has to be done with skepticism, and a real long look.  And probably should not be done at all.  

https://coronavirus.thebaselab.com

Keep in mind that I am not affiliated with any of the statistical websites, and was only commenting on the numbers Mike had posted.  They ain't my numbers.  I'm kinda a numbers, schumbers guy.  We can try to take a tally when it's all said and done, then we can argue the tally for decades.  Something to look forward to, I s'pose.

It's notable that "your" site also gives the US overall top billing.  Will we end up there when C-19 is in the history books?  Time will tell...



I put quite a bit of effort into posting reliable sources for the info I try to get across.

If I find an article I usually research other sources as a back up. If I find an article that’s has good info but can also find a rebuttal or includes a more in-depth report I will provide as much info as possible. Posting for shock value is not a thing I enjoy. I do like to help and provide pertinent info and discussions.

Worldometer was what I decided would be a great source considering their reputation along with the organizations that utilize that site for their own use.

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« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2020, 12:55:40 PM »


https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-sweden-no-lockdown-coronavirus-results

“Remember the abandoned trope of "flatten the curve"? Well, it looks like the country that did the best job of that is the one that did the opposite of what we were told would achieve that goal. Sweden is now averaging about one death per day in the entire country, and that is based on a very liberal definition of a COVID-19 death. In fact, Sweden has been over this epidemic for a long time. The country hasn't had a day of double-digit deaths since July 19.“

“Even as cases begin to increase in countries that previously thought they dodged the bullet with minimal cases, Sweden appears to have achieved de facto herd immunity.“
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« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2020, 01:25:31 PM »

My Swedish Doctor friend told me yesterday that soon they allow 500 seat venues there again and never the mask unless you personally wanted to.  Humm.   
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ridingron
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« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2020, 06:38:41 PM »

I like Sweden's approach and results.

I would not believe any numbers out of China.

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« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2020, 04:08:20 AM »

There was a Chinese researcher/scientist on last night stating how this virus was started and spread. China has quite a history of certain people disappearing and she is concerned she will be one of them. I hope she is in a safe place in this country, I like to hear more from her. She claims this was manmade and released for a reason.
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Jersey mike
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« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2020, 03:00:46 AM »

Article on Sweden’s current status and future outlook;


https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/09/sweden-spared-surge-of-coronavirus-cases-but-many-questions-remain-about-low-key-strategy.html

By DAVID KEYTON Associated Press

Associated Press reporters Jan M. Olsen in Copenhagen, Denmark, and Vanessa Gera in Warsaw, Poland, contributed.
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Jersey mike
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« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2020, 05:28:40 AM »

So,etching I’m surprised to see, NBC News reporting on the approach Sweden has used and it’s not a negative report.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/nbc-news-sweden-pandemic-roadmap

Same video that’s in the above article but posted in case you don’t trust Glenn Beck

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8nZOHPFdX8

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« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2020, 06:12:03 AM »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden-cases/swedens-daily-covid-19-cases-hit-highest-level-since-june-idINKBN26M63D
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« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2020, 06:32:02 AM »

Stockholm, not a huge surprise knowing a few factors, ones the Swedish media would never include like their crime.  Still a pretty good take using the entire country knowing they did not force their citizens into face diapers. 
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« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2020, 06:53:37 AM »

  I mentioned that my closest friend I have in Sweden that we visit in Motala, however I also have another close friend, someone I meet from the Doctor. This friend lives in Gusum not far from Stockholm, he is an undercover officer quite high up in the department and he deals with the “new Swedish citizens” including deportations. Him along with another Doctor friend in Stockholm and then another Doctor friend in Gothenburg, these are what I consider accurate Covid information. (Was that worded correct) They are all motorcycle folk and good people.  I like information that is on the ground.
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« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2020, 09:31:05 AM »

Went and stopped at a fall festival/flea market in a neighboring county and the gov't. of said county made the each vendor put out a sheet taped to a table for names of attendees to sign for contact tracing. Not one signature anywhere.  Shocked  Smiley

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Jersey mike
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« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2020, 11:03:09 AM »


Cases are one side of the issue, the main concern is death. Still single digits.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

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