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« on: August 11, 2020, 01:22:23 PM » |
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Second day of virtual schooling behind us. It's been interesting to say the least... I came downstairs to make myself some lunch and just happened to get there at the right moment to see Brian Jr. with his study buddies Miss Kitty, Chloe and Luna helping him do his school work... I could try to pose this photo for a million years and never get anything like this, it just happened..... Wanted to share, 'cause ya' know.... Dogs and kids and stuff..... (Apologies to those who are on the Book of Faces and are having to see this twice now...  ) 
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2020, 03:39:35 PM » |
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Looks like teachers will get a Hell of a free ride. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2020, 03:41:16 PM » |
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Looks like teachers will get a Hell of a free ride.  Actually, I'm VERY respectful of the teachers through all this (At least the non-union ones, but that's another story.) Theoretically in a little under 4 weeks it's parent's choice if kids are in a virtual classroom or in a physical one. The catch is, the same teachers are expected to teach to the virtual class AND the in person class simultaneously...
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Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...  IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2020, 03:58:03 PM » |
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Looks like teachers will get a Hell of a free ride.  Actually, I'm VERY respectful of the teachers through all this (At least the non-union ones, but that's another story.) Theoretically in a little under 4 weeks it's parent's choice if kids are in a virtual classroom or in a physical one. The catch is, the same teachers are expected to teach to the virtual class AND the in person class simultaneously... They went on strike for more pay and they get a 3 month paid vacation, 2 weeks Christmas, 2 Weeks Spring break, etc. I was married to a teacher in 80's . I have no sympathy for them. Who else gets those kinds of paid days off. Add it all up, around 5 months or more paid vacations a year.
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Willow
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2020, 05:51:00 PM » |
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Looks like teachers will get a Hell of a free ride.  Actually, I'm VERY respectful of the teachers through all this (At least the non-union ones, but that's another story.) Theoretically in a little under 4 weeks it's parent's choice if kids are in a virtual classroom or in a physical one. The catch is, the same teachers are expected to teach to the virtual class AND the in person class simultaneously... It is truly more work for teachers. They are having to produce the virtual lessons which is something new to the vast majority of them. Then, as the Serk says, they are still responsible for doing the same work they did before with the in person students.
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Willow
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2020, 05:56:46 PM » |
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They went on strike for more pay and they get a 3 month paid vacation, 2 weeks Christmas, 2 Weeks Spring break, etc. I was married to a teacher in 80's . I have no sympathy for them. Who else gets those kinds of paid days off. Add it all up, around 5 months or more paid vacations a year.
Teachers don't get three month paid vacation but in most districts they can choose to spread their less than average pay over twelve months. Most teachers spend a good deal more than eight hours per day when you take into consideration the time required to prepare lessons and grade papers. I spent grammar school and most of high school in Oklahoma. I had some good teachers. Reading your posts and attitude it appears you didn't. I had eight children who were educated in public schools. Honestly I lose a little respect for folks who don't like or resent teachers.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2020, 07:13:32 PM » |
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I had some good teachers, as well as some medicore ones (Good ones out weighing the bad ones). Most of the teachers I had in secondary (Jr High and High School) had to be on their toes, because I was not the only one pressing them to make things positively interesting / academically challenging. I was a holy terror if I caught you in mistakes on a regular basis and I cared about the material - just ask my 9th grade orchestra director. I respected the man, because he really cared about getting the most out of us.
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2020, 08:12:47 PM » |
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I maybe old school, but online learning overall will not nearly be as good as in person 1 on 1 interraction in a classroom. Not a fan of helping pay college tuition for 2 kids with just online learning either some classes do NOT work very well and wasted money as evident by 1 of my kids classes he had. The class grades on everyone got so bad they changed it to pass/fail is all vs. A-F grade structure. What a waste of huge money. Most of my high school teachers were bad with just a few teachers decent. Our freshmen algebra teacher was our gym teacher and I basically taught the class for him while our geometry teacher sophomore year only lasted 1st semester before being fired since he was on major drugs tripping all the time instead of teaching he NO JOKE read nursery rhymes to us in class like 3 year olds. He was a weirdo big time. I did take Home Ec and foods II classes since the teacher was HOT looking still remember some 35 years ago she had a long dress on sitting on top of a desk and spread her legs open for all to see her snatch......  Our English teacher was very good but her hygiene was so bad and I am NOT kidding, you go anywhere near her 3 feet close and your eyes water she smelt so bad. My mom did not believe me so the one time in high school I took her to parents teachers conference to meet her and my mom nearly passed out and told her so I was right. Serk, your kids are really getting taller and skinny really growing up quickly.
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2020, 10:43:12 PM » |
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They went on strike for more pay and they get a 3 month paid vacation, 2 weeks Christmas, 2 Weeks Spring break, etc. I was married to a teacher in 80's . I have no sympathy for them. Who else gets those kinds of paid days off. Add it all up, around 5 months or more paid vacations a year.
Teachers don't get three month paid vacation but in most districts they can choose to spread their less than average pay over twelve months. Most teachers spend a good deal more than eight hours per day when you take into consideration the time required to prepare lessons and grade papers. I spent grammar school and most of high school in Oklahoma. I had some good teachers. Reading your posts and attitude it appears you didn't. I had eight children who were educated in public schools. Honestly I lose a little respect for folks who don't like or resent teachers. My wife was a teacher, she was paid a ((((yearly salary,)))) x amount for 12 months. If your employer hires you for X amount salary for a year and says you get 3 months off summer, 2 weeks spring break, 2 weeks Christmas and all holidays off, so you will get at least 4-1/2 months a year off with pay. So then the teachers go on strike during a SCHOOL YEAR and blackmail the public for a higher salary. Yip that deserves a lot of respect, not. A couple of my teachers had a lot of fun at the students expense. 6 of us on the basketball team would spend 3 weeks with one of the fun at students expense teachers and haul and stack hay at very little pay and we did respect them and were good teachers back then. A lot has changed with teachers since then. I have way less respect than I once did.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2020, 06:00:55 AM » |
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My wife is a retired teacher, I respectfully disagree with your entire position on teachers. Maybe your relationship with your X has affected your views? My wife worked as much being a teacher after school hours and at home to more than make up for what you call vacation time. The time away from school is built in for the kids, not the teachers.
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2020, 11:05:25 AM » |
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My wife is a retired teacher, I respectfully disagree with your entire position on teachers. Maybe your relationship with your X has affected your views? My wife worked as much being a teacher after school hours and at home to more than make up for what you call vacation time. The time away from school is built in for the kids, not the teachers.
Has nothing to do with views of my x wife or your retired wife. I'm talking about the teacher strike when the parent, single mothers had to stay home from work and many lost their jobs because no one to watch the kids and the parents that depended on the school breakfast and lunch for their kids. The so called respected teachers put a financial hardship on some parents that they were unable to overcome and the teachers could not care less they just wanted more money no matter the cost. Back in the day teachers did care now it is only about them. No I do not respect the ones that went on strike, parents in my state were devastated by this heartless blackmailing BS. Teachers sure do care don't they. They could have negotiated instead of a full state strike witch was illegal but nothing happened their either, wait till it happens in your state.
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2020, 05:39:10 PM » |
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I read your post above mine and did not find anything about what your last post said. Also I wasn’t giving you my wife’s views but those of my own. Didn’t expect to change your mind, I just wanted to offer an opposing view.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2020, 07:11:13 PM » |
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My district gave up on having in school classes, both my kids wanted to go back to school in person. Problem is that whole concept will not work. Someone will get sick then they have to find who has been in close contact etc. etc. In the end the schools will just end up shutting down.
We can't keep everything closed down forever. Businesses are going out of business and the kids aren't getting a lot of virtual school. At least in my neighborhood the kids are all hanging out with each other any ways, doesn't matter where you put them. My son got a summer job at a hotel so he runs into people from all over the US. Daughter and her buddies are having continual sleep overs so this is all kind of pointless. If one of kids got sick and you traced all the people they came into contact with it would be a huge number.
We don't close everything down for the normal flu this one really isn't deadly enough to close everything down. I saw some numbers and it's the nursing home people most likely to die, 42% of the deaths have been from nursing homes. Asked people in a nursing home if they really care whether they live or die, some will be surprised at the answer. You're not going to recover from old age.
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