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« on: August 22, 2020, 07:45:15 AM » |
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This is how I see things going.  I know,I know, mail in voting. 
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I’d like to believe this but I have an uneasy feeling about it. There’s too much going on right now.
I’m hoping the silent majority and all these people who have been negatively impacted by the riots and businesses destruction as well as their family members have sense enough to vote and vote Trump.
That is a big beautiful sea of red on that graphic though.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2020, 07:55:42 AM » |
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For a "silent majority" y'all make a lot of racket. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2020, 08:12:54 AM » |
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This is how I see things going.  I know,I know, mail in voting.  maybe, (highly doubtful though)
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2020, 08:50:18 AM » |
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Screw Virginia!
And Pennsylvania is seemingly up for grabs and very important.
Hope does spring eternal (and I've contributed more cash than ever before; with much less income).
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I wish my vote counted. Just pisses me off. Everyone I know around here in my rural area is red. The state was solidly red when I moved here in 87. But the Californicators brought their corruption with them to the urban areas - Denver metro and the People's Republic of Boulder. Yet the Springs is red. Red affiliation is more than twice blue. Very military community. Douglas, my county, Blue 20%, Red 48%, unaffiliated 32%. But Denver - blue 3X red, Boulder 2X. Source, CO sec of state. As of 2014 (source https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/10/16/map-colorado-voters-party-affiliation-by-county/17379853/) 
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2020, 09:37:18 AM » |
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While I do hope that prediction is correct, we all know how the polling prediction worked out in 2016. I see this race differently and hoping every Conservative out there takes this election seriously and gets out there and votes.
I still don't care for DJT as a person but, he's done a commendable job as a President. Especially considering all the roadblocks and BS the Democrat leadership have manufactured and all the slanted press he gets from a very biased media.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2020, 09:51:27 AM » |
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we all know how the polling prediction worked out in 2016.
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I hear this a lot from conservatives and Trump. The polling average was a Clinton by 3.2%. The actual vote was 2.1%. That was well within the margin of error. Were it not for a VERY small margin in PA, WI, and MI, nobody would be talking about a 1.1% error.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2020, 10:02:16 AM » |
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I wish my vote counted. Just pisses me off. Everyone I know around here in my rural area is red. The state was solidly red when I moved here in 87. But the Californicators brought their corruption with them to the urban areas - Denver metro and the People's Republic of Boulder. Yet the Springs is red. Red affiliation is more than twice blue. Very military community. Douglas, my county, Blue 20%, Red 48%, unaffiliated 32%. But Denver - blue 3X red, Boulder 2X. Source, CO sec of state. As of 2014 (source https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/10/16/map-colorado-voters-party-affiliation-by-county/17379853/)  Looks like they've got us snack dab in the purple zone here. I question that, there are plenty of good ol' boys and gals, cowboys and ranchers, outdoors enthusiasts, hunters and shooters who reside here. Lots of really great folks. There are also many transplants in the last decade or so, and a changing demographic and attitude. It ain't the Mayberry my family relocated to in 67 but it's not Boulder either. Despite a longstanding community attitude to limit growth, new homes are being built and new neighborhoods are under contract. We're getting crowded. There's no doubt is changing, and not for the better.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2020, 10:38:41 AM » |
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I’m not much on polls but the model I submitted in my post does have a history and notably they were right in 2016. When we are constantly bombarded with negatives about Trump and all his dastardly deeds with foreign leaders one has a hard time seeing the prize surrounded by mountains of bullshit. The only thing that matters is that he wins, the margin of victory not so much. Even if he were to win it’s enough votes to consider it a mandate, Pelosi, Nadler, crap, and the rest will continue their campaign of unseating a President.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2020, 12:44:35 PM » |
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we all know how the polling prediction worked out in 2016.
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I hear this a lot from conservatives and Trump. The polling average was a Clinton by 3.2%. The actual vote was 2.1%. That was well within the margin of error. Were it not for a VERY small margin in PA, WI, and MI, nobody would be talking about a 1.1% error. Wow cant you even get the numbers right? Chance of winning FiveThirtyEight Hillary Clinton 71.4% Donald Trump 28.6% FiveThirtyEight https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/Hillary Clinton has an 85% chance to win. The Upshot’s elections model suggests that Hillary Clinton is favored to win the presidency, based on the latest state and national polls. A victory by Mr. Trump remains possible: Mrs. Clinton’s chance of losing is about the same as the probability that an N.F.L. kicker misses a 37-yard field goal. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.htmlSurvey finds Hillary Clinton has ‘more than 99% chance’ of winning election over Donald Trump The developer of the model, neuro and data scientist Princeton professor Sam Wang, correctly predicted 49 out of 50 states in 2012. Other polls were less bullish on a Clinton victory. FiveThirtyEight said the likelihood Ms Clinton would win was 65 per cent, while the New York Times upshot said there was a 85 per cent chance. https://time.com/4561625/electoral-college-predictions/Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · Jul 8, 2018 They just didn't get it, but they do now! Trumps not going to win. https://twitter.com/i/status/1016079192604139520It never gets old  You know go through some of the old 2016 videos on Trump winning and it sounds so much like now. Its actually eye opening and encouraging to hear since the bias and main stream predictions were so far off then and to hear that again is confirmation of how off they really were.
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I think this will be a difficult election. I see folks at work doing things to undermine it and destroy the integrity and legitimacy of it. Mass mail in ballots are a case in point. De-funding Police departments is another as it will undermine the ability of States to contain any violence at the polling places.
I still see the possibility of the Large Electoral vote States being unable to manage their elections and to send the Federal Presidential electoral question to their respective State legislators.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2020, 03:25:51 PM » |
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This is how I see things going.  I know,I know, mail in voting.  I sure hope its right ! I think its a couple states off, but, what do I know. I'm more worried about this one than the last. I just don't understand what some folks are thinking about. This is the most important election of our lifetime.
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2020, 03:51:00 PM » |
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I just don't understand what some folks are thinking about.
This is the most important election of our lifetime.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2020, 06:31:45 PM » |
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I'm more worried about this one than the last. I just don't understand what some folks are thinking about.
This is the most important election of our lifetime.
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2020, 07:12:01 PM » |
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I'm more worried about this one than the last. I just don't understand what some folks are thinking about.
This is the most important election of our lifetime.
Agreed 100%. I just don't understand what some folks are thinking about.
This is the most important election of our lifetime.
Bingo ! On this, we agree. We all agree on the importance of this election, but can you please tell me what the dems are promising to do that is worth voting for.
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It seems every election since I was old enough to start voting was "The most important election of my lifetime."..... I'm getting kinda tired of the drama to be honest.....
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2020, 07:21:31 PM » |
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I just don't understand what some folks are thinking about.
This is the most important election of our lifetime.
Bingo ! On this, we agree. Perhaps we should rephrase to the most important election so far. Depending upon the outcome the next election may fit that description also.
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If you wish to support a liar philanderer, pedophile, serial plagiarizer, and general piece of poop scum of the Earth, please vote for Biden.... He makes Trump seem like a freaking angel..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs5HMky1qY
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If you wish to support a liar philanderer, pedophile, serial plagiarizer, and general piece of poop scum of the Earth, please vote for Biden.... He makes Trump seem like a freaking angel..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs5HMky1qYFor a minute there I thought you were finally seeing the light. You've got the names reversed. I'm still waiting for my question to be answered.
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If you wish to support a liar philanderer, pedophile, serial plagiarizer, and general piece of poop scum of the Earth, please vote for Biden.... He makes Trump seem like a freaking angel..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs5HMky1qYBe careful. You are getting sucked into the Trump QAnon cult.
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If you wish to support a liar philanderer, pedophile, serial plagiarizer, and general piece of poop scum of the Earth, please vote for Biden.... He makes Trump seem like a freaking angel..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs5HMky1qYBe careful. You are getting sucked into the Trump QAnon cult. WWG1WGA
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2020, 07:00:31 AM » |
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Be careful. You are getting sucked into the Trump QAnon cult.
I thought I'd seen it all. Then these Q fellers show up. Now THAT'S some serious stupid right there.
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2020, 07:28:17 AM » |
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If you wish to support a liar philanderer, pedophile, serial plagiarizer, and general piece of poop scum of the Earth, please vote for Biden.... He makes Trump seem like a freaking angel..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs5HMky1qYFor a minute there I thought you were finally seeing the light. You've got the names reversed. I'm still waiting for my question to be answered. I believe in give and take. So, can we agree that Trump and Biden are flawed individuals? I know I fit that category. Now comes the important consideration. We have realistically two choices for the next 4 years, which mans plans and policies will best serve America? In my mind, I know what to expect from Trump, Biden is a wild card, but since we have some 40 years of track records for him we can assume he will be as useless as tits on a boar hog. And then we also get Kamala in the package, what a prize! If you and Rob can swallow all that then more power to you.
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If you wish to support a liar philanderer, pedophile, serial plagiarizer, and general piece of poop scum of the Earth, please vote for Biden.... He makes Trump seem like a freaking angel..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs5HMky1qYBe careful. You are getting sucked into the Trump QAnon cult. WWG1WGA I'll go my own way. But, by all means, follow your heart. 
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Trump Makes Obama Regret His Jobs Prediction https://youtu.be/AqzoO-Hu1mkI am amazed that Obama being the best chance for hope and change did not have a clue, on the economy or how to bring jobs back. Yet at this time this is what we need. Trump is the best man for the job. 
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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2020, 07:42:25 AM » |
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I'm still waiting for my question to be answered.
Bob, Give me a freaking break. Considering you have failed to respond to several of my questions in different threads, I find your post very ironic. I feel confident you'll have some excuse of not revisiting a thread or just didn't see my questions but, your active involvement up until the questions were asked leaves room to wonder why...…….. Rams
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« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2020, 07:54:33 AM » |
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I'm still waiting for my question to be answered.
Bob, Give me a freaking break. Considering you have failed to respond to several of my questions in different threads, I find your post very ironic. I feel confident you'll have some excuse of not revisiting a thread or just didn't see my questions but, your active involvement up until the questions were asked leaves room to wonder why...…….. Rams Hey Ron, to my knowledge I've answered every question you've ever asked me. You're always reasonable with your questions, why wouldn't I answer them? I don't hang on every thread waiting for responses like some people here. I've gone back and sometimes found a thread locked or deleted, so I don't know what has transpired. If a thread is locked, I'm not going to start a new thread to keep it going. I've responded to you in the past with PM's. If I've missed something, send me a PM, that I'll see.
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Trump Makes Obama Regret His Jobs Prediction https://youtu.be/AqzoO-Hu1mkI am amazed that Obama being the best chance for hope and change did not have a clue, on the economy or how to bring jobs back. Yet at this time this is what we need. Trump is the best man for the job.  Jobs report comes out September 4th. Last week the housing report came out and far exceeded the projections for new housing construction. New building permits were higher than expected also. Obama’s comments about how do you bring jobs back and Trump waving a magic wand was priceless.
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I'm still waiting for my question to be answered.
Bob, Give me a freaking break. Considering you have failed to respond to several of my questions in different threads, I find your post very ironic. I feel confident you'll have some excuse of not revisiting a thread or just didn't see my questions but, your active involvement up until the questions were asked leaves room to wonder why...…….. Rams Hey Ron, to my knowledge I've answered every question you've ever asked me. You're always reasonable with your questions, why wouldn't I answer them? I don't hang on every thread waiting for responses like some people here. I've gone back and sometimes found a thread locked or deleted, so I don't know what has transpired. If a thread is locked, I'm not going to start a new thread to keep it going. I've responded to you in the past with PM's. If I've missed something, send me a PM, that I'll see. Bob, OK. I understand and will accept your explanation but, I would also request that if you enter a thread, you might consider checking back and responding to questions addressed to you. Reference PMs: IMHO, PMs are for socializing, not political discussions/arguments. Color me weird (I guess). Rams
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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2020, 08:35:32 AM » |
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I'm still waiting for my question to be answered.
Bob, Give me a freaking break. Considering you have failed to respond to several of my questions in different threads, I find your post very ironic. I feel confident you'll have some excuse of not revisiting a thread or just didn't see my questions but, your active involvement up until the questions were asked leaves room to wonder why...…….. Rams Hey Ron, to my knowledge I've answered every question you've ever asked me. You're always reasonable with your questions, why wouldn't I answer them? I don't hang on every thread waiting for responses like some people here. I've gone back and sometimes found a thread locked or deleted, so I don't know what has transpired. If a thread is locked, I'm not going to start a new thread to keep it going. I've responded to you in the past with PM's. If I've missed something, send me a PM, that I'll see. Bob, OK. I understand and will accept your explanation but, I would also request that if you enter a thread, you might consider checking back and responding to questions addressed to you. Reference PMs: IMHO, PMs are for socializing, not political discussions/arguments. Color me weird (I guess). Rams I usually do, but not always. Most times I even forget which thread it is and I have to search my posts to find it. If a thread has had deletions, I can't always tell where it was. I haven't been on the board a whole lot in the last few months, it's been real busy at work and with my stitchin' business. I might be gone in the near future for a bit. You might have seen on the news about one of our planes landing gear up in LAX. They asked for volunteers to go out for the repair. Landing gear and engine change, pylon damage repair, etc. I hope I get the call. https://abc7.com/lax-emergency-landing-plane-fedex/6377692/PM's. I've used this feature in the past with other members in an attempt to keep the thread a bit cooler than it could be. You may have noticed that sometimes my participation ruffles some feathers.
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I might be gone in the near future for a bit. You might have seen on the news about one of our planes landing gear up in LAX. They asked for volunteers to go out for the repair. Landing gear and engine change, pylon damage repair, etc. I hope I get the call. https://abc7.com/lax-emergency-landing-plane-fedex/6377692/PM's. I've used this feature in the past with other members in an attempt to keep the thread a bit cooler than it could be. You may have noticed that sometimes my participation ruffles some feathers. Nice Landing! Had a few similar landings myself but, way different in a skid equipped helicopter  If repairing a plane in LA is what you want, I surely hope you get your wish. Be safe and stay out of any riots.  Rams
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It seems every election since I was old enough to start voting was "The most important election of my lifetime."..... I'm getting kinda tired of the drama to be honest.....
I'd be revolted to be ruled by the woke. I'd probably just keep on keeping on, though. My house is electric and I live just down the road from the nuke plant, I hope they don't shut that down  ... it might get hard to get gas for my Valkyrie if they ruin the hydrocarbon bidness, but high dollar gas will probably still be available so that the woke corps d'elite will be able to fly around in their airplanes... -Mike
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