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« on: August 26, 2020, 07:01:27 AM » |
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The metal inserts have all come out on the Interstate speaker cover and the holes appear to be stripped out. What should I do to fix.
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« Last Edit: September 01, 2020, 09:20:42 AM by shadowsoftime »
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Valkorado
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2020, 07:11:05 AM » |
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Common problem. I've dealt with this issue on both Interstates I've owned.
If the threads on the brass inserts are not stripped out and are reusable you can to glue then back in to the holes, being careful to keep the glue from the threads. If they're stripped you can still find new inserts at Partzilla or any OEM parts vendor. The "barbs" on the new ones are grabbier, but I recommend a dab of e6000 even on those for prevention.
When removing those plastic panels it sometimes helps to push them in a bit while removing the screws. Same for reinstalling them. Don't tighten them too tight so you don't have to go through the whole process again anytime soon!
I used e6000 glue, it doesn't expand like Gorilla glue does and it's easier to work with.
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« Last Edit: August 26, 2020, 07:41:18 AM by Valkorado »
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Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good, there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood? - John Prine 97 Tourer "Silver Bullet" 01 Interstate "Ruby"  |
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2020, 07:17:33 AM » |
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Common problem. I've dealt with this issue on both Interstates I've owned.
If the threads on the brass inserts are not stripped out and are reusable you can to glue then back in to the holes, being careful to keep the glue from the threads. If they're stripped you can still find new inserts at Partzilla or any OEM parts vendor.
When removing those plastic panels it sometimes helps to push them in a bit while removing the screws.
I used e6000 glue, it doesn't expand like Gorilla glue does and it's easier to work with.
I was riding down the street and the cover came off hanging by the speaker wires. One insert is gone and none of the others are stripped but the holes are stripped. Never heard of e6000 glue, where to get it. |
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Valkorado
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2020, 07:32:38 AM » |
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Common problem. I've dealt with this issue on both Interstates I've owned.
If the threads on the brass inserts are not stripped out and are reusable you can to glue then back in to the holes, being careful to keep the glue from the threads. If they're stripped you can still find new inserts at Partzilla or any OEM parts vendor.
When removing those plastic panels it sometimes helps to push them in a bit while removing the screws.
I used e6000 glue, it doesn't expand like Gorilla glue does and it's easier to work with.
I was riding down the street and the cover came off hanging by the speaker wires. One insert is gone and none of the others are stripped but the holes are stripped. Never heard of e6000 glue, where to get it. I find it at Wal-Mart but I've seen it elsewhere. It's tough stuff, but can be removed if necessary in case any of the inserts threads do strip out and need to be replaced in the future. |
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2020, 09:25:10 AM » |
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Inserts for fairing, Honda part #90316-MJ1-000
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2020, 09:45:26 AM » |
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Repeat after me-ANTI SEIZE ANTI SEIZE ANTI SEIZE. When reinstalling those machine screws/bolts that hold the speaker frame in Always use a bit of anti seize. Lots of us here with I/Ss have been there done that got the T-shirt.  RIDE SAFE. |
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2020, 11:14:07 PM » |
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I have the e6000
Should I tighten the screws to the inserts while on the speaker covers, put glue in the plastic holes then press the speaker covers into the fairing and tape it tight, or glue the inserts in the fairing and hope the holes line up with cover after dried, the holes are larger since stripped and don't know if I can get the inserts centered so that the inserts will line up with speaker cover holes.
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2020, 07:47:46 AM » |
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I have the e6000
Should I tighten the screws to the inserts while on the speaker covers, put glue in the plastic holes then press the speaker covers into the fairing and tape it tight, or glue the inserts in the fairing and hope the holes line up with cover after dried, the holes are larger since stripped and don't know if I can get the inserts centered so that the inserts will line up with speaker cover holes.
Glue the inserts in without the covers. If you wish to put in the screws to be sure no glue ruins the threads cover the screws and inside of the insert with some greasy something (anti-sieze?) that will not allow the glue to attach. You could probably manage to protect the threads by putting in the greasy something, turn in the screw and then taking it out before applying the glue. |
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2020, 04:33:01 AM » |
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I glued the inserts in with e6000 and WD-40 on screws before installing inserts. 11;00 today will be 24 hours for cure time.
Thank you, to everyone for your help.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2020, 08:10:37 AM » |
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Went out to see how they turned out. Put a screw in all of them held screwdriver with thumb and one finger to snug the screws and everyone of the inserts turned.
Maybe I did wrong, I only put glue around inserts put a screw in a tiny bit and pushed the inserts in and then took the screws out.
I will now fill the hole with glue put a little grease on screw threads, screw into inserts all the way, push into hole and let glue come out the front and clean off.
If that does not work, I will fill holes with epoxy of some sort, drill holes and tap some threads or get some self tapping screws.
If that don't work, there is always Duct tape. lol
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2020, 09:57:25 AM » |
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Did it all again, filled with glue, covered screws with Turtle wax paste and screwed into inserts then pushed into holes. Went out a few minutes ago,took screws out and back in,inserts never moved.
Wax made the screws very east in and out.
Will let them set till Monday.
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2020, 12:53:33 PM » |
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Now don't put a torque wrench on them.  |
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2020, 04:00:36 AM » |
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5:45am, in a few hours will be 72 hours for complete curing for inserts. I'll do the smoke test.  |
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2020, 04:07:16 AM » |
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Once you put the screws in with the speakers you should not have any more trouble And if you do it would not be till you go to take it apart again
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2020, 09:18:53 AM » |
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BIG disappointment with e6000, used plenty, let cure for 72 hours, before I put the cover on, I put screws in and they went easy peasy, snugged them down lightly and the inserts turned.
I cleaned everything inside and out with alcohol, blew out with air hose let set 3 hours before using e6000.
I did wonder about this stuff as directions said, it does not harden, remains rubbery.
I will use something that hardens next time. Epoxy, JB weld, viagra,etc.
Live and learn. Back in my early days, I would be throwing things. LOL
Will do an update later today.
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Valkorado
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2020, 09:24:52 AM » |
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Good info and really sorry if I steered you in a wrong direction. It worked and is still holding for me, but admittedly I only had a couple inserts stripped on each side, not the entire panel holding on by the speaker wires.
I also didn't use wax, if that matters at all...
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Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good, there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood? - John Prine 97 Tourer "Silver Bullet" 01 Interstate "Ruby" |
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2020, 09:28:38 AM » |
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Good info and really sorry if I steered you in a wrong direction. It worked and is still holding for me, but admittedly I only had a couple inserts stripped on each side, not the entire panel holding on by the speaker wires.
I also didn't use wax, if that matters at all...
No need to be sorry, it could be just a bad tube of e6000. Wax only went on screws, and took them out after 3 hours. Also after the waxy screws went in I cleaned outside of inserts with alcohol and let set awhile |
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2020, 04:37:31 PM » |
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You do realize that those screws are "shoulder screws" (best explanation I can come up with).
When they are screwed in, the shoulder rests on the buried nut. They are designed to stop at the nut, at a predetermined depth. Once it stops turning, you do NOT turn it any more, or you take the risk of doing exactly what you are doing.
Jim
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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2020, 04:57:48 PM » |
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I did jb weld a couple years ago. Just a dab with a tooth pick. Worked just fine. But don't be careless and slop it around.
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shadowsoftime
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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2020, 08:31:28 PM » |
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You do realize that those screws are "shoulder screws" (best explanation I can come up with).
When they are screwed in, the shoulder rests on the buried nut. They are designed to stop at the nut, at a predetermined depth. Once it stops turning, you do NOT turn it any more, or you take the risk of doing exactly what you are doing.
Jim
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