Where to,firearms

[shadowsoftime]

Where to sell firearms, besides gun shops, pawn shops.
I have looked at gun brokers but don't know how they work or what they charge, also not shipping a gun till I have cash in hand and buyer probably not going to send cash till has gun in hand.
  There are gun shows, but don't want to get knocked in the head in parking lot or followed home.
Maybe to cautious, maybe not.

[Patrick]

I'd like to find that out also. Haven't sold a gun in decades. But am going to start getting rid of most of them.
Its been my understanding that in NYS a handgun can now only be sold to a dealer.

[Bighead]

We can sell person to person within our state. But if outof state it has to go through a FFL dealer. But I have no firearms since that tragic boating accident 

[vanagon40]

I have never sold through GunBroker.com but bought several. Not sure of the fee but I'm sure it is listed on the website. I always sent the money directly to the seller, then the firearm was shipped to the FFL I contracted with (in my state). The FFL fee was in addition to the fee paid to the seller.

It works like eBay with a few differences. The major ones I remember are no sniping. If a last minute bid is received, the auctions remains open another 15 minutes (again and again until no further bids are received). No middleman (PayPal) to handle the money.

As you suggest, there might be trust issue on sending the money before the firearm is shipped for a first time seller. You might check with a local FFL (who would ship the firearm for you) and ask if he would serve as an escrow agent. He could verify he had the gun ready to ship once the buyer sent the payment.

Make sure you know the laws of sales in your state and sales to other states. My understanding is the federal government is not very forgiving of even honest mistakes, which are generally felonies.

Most of the gun forums also have a buy/sell forum (similar to the VRCC classifieds) with no fee. So for example, if you have a Smith & Wesson for sale, you might sign up with the Smith & Wesson Forum.

If selling online, lots of high quality photos are essential.

Good luck.

[Firefight100]

I live in Florida nad buy and sell thru FloridaGunTrader online.  No fees, and I have always done face to face.  Good reason for a Valkyrie ride.  For OK try here to start.  https://www.google.com/search?q=oklahoma+gun+trader&rlz=1C1ASRM_enUS809US809&oq=oklahoma+gun+trader&aqs=chrome..69i57.6942j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[JimC]

Try the link below.
It is nationwide, and about half the buyers and sellers are people not gun shops.
Personally I would not sell a weapon unless it was face to face, you can set that requirement in your ad. Your state will dictate whether you can sell to private party or not.

Guns are very hot these days, almost as hot as they were in the Obama days.

https://www.armslist.com/

Jim

[Jess from VA]

Most states have private gun boards (guns, long-short, shotgun, ammo, safes, equipment, optics, yada).  Like Craigslists, but for guns and stuff.  (ArmsList)

You log in and post your for sale add (with a picture or two).  Read other adds; people want to know if you bought it new or used, do you have the original box and papers, a rough round count, any extras (holsters, mags, speed loaders, optics, grips), identify any obvious blemishes or defects.  Some people will offer trades, others want cash only.

The sites are generally set up so potential buyers log in (without seeing your seller email or identity) and send you a message (offers), and if you like it and answer them back, now you have an electronic connection.  The next step is phone call discussions where you feel each other out for honesty (about the firearm and about themselves).  If you reach a meeting of the minds, you set up a neutral meeting place like halfway between (I always give my zip, but never my address, unless on a bill of sale later at the meet).  Some people want bills of sale and others don't (IMHO, all sellers should want a bill of sale, and all buyers don't want one, but you work that out).  You show each other things like driver's licenses, military ID, CCW permits, good guy credentials.

Gun seller example bills of sale can be found on line (and can be written up to read very much like a standard ATF Form 4473, so your buyer is affirming he is an eligible, lawful buyer with no prohibitions).

If an FFL transfer is required by state law, you meet at a gun store  (which is a good safe place to do a meet and transfer).  Before Virginia required FFL checks on all private sales, we still met at gun stores, or guns show locations to do our deals anyway).  I've also met in parking lots, police stations, malls or any other good public venue.  I'm always armed against bad mojo, but never once needed to be.  However, a couple times I got bad feelings talking on the phone, and decided right then to not do business with that person.

Show me the gun.  Show me the cash.  And so on.

It is so much easier and safer for any seller if any buyer already has a concealed weapon permit from your state, to put you at ease with a criminal background check.  But everyone doesn't have one.  If an FFL transfer is required, you get one anyway.

When selling, it's not a bad idea to keep a record of the make, model, serial number and maybe a picture in case the worst thing happens and authorities later contact you about that gun.  If there is a bill of sale, that info should be in there, and buyer and seller both keep a copy of bill of sale.

Oklahoma Gun Boards

https://www.okshooters.com/forums/firearms.120/

https://www.okshooters.com/classifieds/

https://www.boomershooter.com/forums/firearm-classifieds.20/

https://www.armslist.com/classifieds/oklahoma

https://www.dakil.com/oklahoma-gun-auctions

https://www.gunlistings.org/oklahoma-gun-classifieds

[old2soon]

      Far as guns being hot now as an aside most of the gun shops here bouts that I frequent have Extremely Low stocks or No stock on most all pistol bore ammo. And his magazine orders are Way behind. Lookin like 16 all over again.  And the Mom and Pop gun shop I deal with the most-all new-used-and built pistols outa stock. RIDE SAFE. P S-thinkin here If ya got em keep em. 

[shadowsoftime]

I inherited them.

[Jess from VA]

I inherited 16- 1911's, P-38, German Luger, and AK, Winchester 30-30, Nickle plated D/B stagecoach, most all unfired, 1911's bought 06 and 07, purchase price 2,000 and above, have all receipts. 14 are in new condition.
Keeping Ed Brown and a Colt Gold cup.

While some guys do it, I would refrain from putting all those guns you want to sell up in one add for the obvious reason that if that collection amounts to enough money, someone (or a group) might decide it is worth the effort to find out where you live and come try and take them.  Break them up and spread out the adds into individual sales (and not all at once).  

And most gun boards are divided into separate sections for handguns, rifles, and shotguns.

Depending on where you live, I'd take that post listing all you inherited down too.  

[Pappy!]

This is a seller's market for guns. You will do well.
Selling as a private seller at a gun show is very much legal in Florida. Check your state to see what the law is there.
I say this because selling at a gun show is probably one of the safest ways to sell one! Hell....everyone has a gun there!
Do not take your whole collection in unless you want to rent a table and sell them that way. Really not a bad idea. There are set up times prior to opening time and you will be in very good company while carrying in your items.
I have a long time buddy that sells ammo at gun shows and has done so for a couple decades. Never a problem. When he wants to get up and stretch he just asks a neighbor at another table to watch his for a few minutes. Pretty friendly community at the shows.

[Jess from VA]

You may want to consult the laws on being a licensed FFL dealer before renting a table to sell 14 (modern, non-curio and relic) guns at a gun show at one time (with no FFL).

There was a time that was done by everyone, but ATF started charging people for that years ago (undercover operations at gun shows).  Things have gotten better, but I don't know how much better.

You may not consider yourself to be in business to sell off 14 guns at one time, but I wouldn't want to have to defend that in court.

https://www.atf.gov/file/100871/download

https://www.atf.gov/file/100871/download

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/how-many-guns-can-a-private-citizen-sell-in-a-given-period.518433/

On the other hand, I would not worry about carrying one or two into shows to try to sell, at one time (with no table).

It is a sellers market right now for sure.

Consignments with FFL gun stores often run 20-25% of sale and are a big ripoff (though individual stores and better deals might be made).  You can jump the prices up to help cover the consignment cost, but it does you no good if no one will buy at those prices (and I have seen consignment guns abused and/or damaged by both gun store employees and potential buyers, while they sit down there under the counter for months being handled).  

And it's possible you could make a package deal selling all of them to a gun store as a package deal, but I think they will try to steal them from you on price.  If I was going to attempt this, I would value each gun carefully and individually.  Then run a tally, then knock off say 7% for gun store profit.  They won't like it.  

[cookiedough]

Give Serk a call, I hear he has a shortage .....

Yah,  I recently found my sales receipt from 1987 buying my new Ruger M77 30.06 rifle was 329.99.  I bet I could get that now for it or for sure 300...

Irks me that my older brother took all firearms from Dad's house shortly after passing 12 years ago,  without asking me if he could just have them being a 12 gauge,  .308 Savage,  Winchester 30-30 and a .22.    I think that winchester 30-30 should be mine he could keep the rest although only worth about 200 bucks not worth getting into a squabble over it I guess.  Maybe if I sell the 1986 caprice classic of Dad's I will keep the profits on that call it even since he seems to think can only get 250 bucks for it and I say 750? 

[shadowsoftime]

Jess, All the hand guns are in safe deposit box. I didn't like having them in the house, theft, fire, tornado.Wife has the 357 magnum American Derringer corp Waco, Texas, I have the Ed Brown.
The long guns are off property in a safe.

[shadowsoftime]

Some good info here, I need to find out what the market value is.
There is a gun show quite often at the OKC fairgrounds, about a hundred miles from me.

[Jess from VA]

Jess, All the hand guns are in safe deposit box. I didn't like having them in the house, theft, fire, tornado.Wife has the 357 magnum American Derringer corp Waco, Texas, I have the Ed Brown.
The long guns are off property in a safe.

OK.  Also keep in mind that most homeowner's insurance policies have very low limits for firearms (check yours).  To be fully insured (less deductible), you need to add a rider to the policy.  Or get a big honkin' safe and be self insured.  

On that Derringer (I have one), note that if loaded and and the hammer is fully down, a drop or mishap can fire it.  There is a slight halfcock mode, where the hammer is lifted off the striker.  So if loaded, put (and leave) it on halfcock (which is more like one-fifth cokk).

And I'd have at least one long gun (rifle or shotgun) at home.  But I don't know if you have kids, which is always a complicator.

The best way to value your firearms is to just type in a search, listing the specific make and model and add "for sale", and then start opening links, nationwide.  Write down the asking prices (understanding these may not be actual selling prices), and average them out.  For all unfired, new in box ones, look at new asking prices (but not MSRP, which for firearms is always higher than common sales prices).  But, right now there is a run on all guns, and the prices out there are getting somewhat higher than normal.

For each firearm, one at a time.  Similar to selling a vehicle.

There are some used gun pricing source books out there.  Principally S.P. Fjestad's Blue Book of Gun Values (current edition), but it is expensive, and unless dealing with really valuable collector firearms, not all that helpful as opposed to doing your own valuations.

If you haven't done it, you'll need a list of each firearm, make model, new or used (and serial number while your at it).

It's a good policy to never talk about this with neighbors or friends.  They may be trustworthy, but who will THEY tell (and so on)?

And BTW, those firearms are probably a better investment than any mutual fund you can find these days.

Also, OK probably has not passed a law requiring all private sales to be through an FFL (thank God).  But that doesn't mean you can't require one as part of any sale (for your own protection).  As a buyer, I wouldn't like that.  You may not decide to do this, but if any buyer you find makes you uncomfortable for any reason, you can add this in as a condition of sale (costs $30 or so, so you agree to pay it, or split it)

Feel free to email or PM me with more detailed questions, my email is on my profile.  

[shadowsoftime]

Jess, All the hand guns are in safe deposit box. I didn't like having them in the house, theft, fire, tornado.Wife has the 357 magnum American Derringer corp Waco, Texas, I have the Ed Brown.
The long guns are off property in a safe.

OK.  Also keep in mind that most homeowner's insurance policies have very low limits for firearms (check yours).  To be fully insured (less deductible), you need to add a rider to the policy.  Or get a big honkin' safe and be self insured.  

On that Derringer (I have one), note that if loaded and and the hammer is fully down, a drop or mishap can fire it.  There is a slight halfcock mode, where the hammer is lifted off the striker.  So if loaded, put (and leave) it on halfcock (which is more like one-fifth cokk).

And I'd have at least one long gun (rifle or shotgun) at home.  But I don't know if you have kids, which is always a complicator.

The best way to value your firearms is to just type in a search, listing the specific make and model and add "for sale", and then start opening links, nationwide.  Write down the asking prices (understanding these may not be actual selling prices), and average them out.  For all unfired, new in box ones, look at new asking prices (but not MSRP, which for firearms is always higher than common sales prices).  But, right now there is a run on all guns, and the prices out there are getting somewhat higher than normal.

For each firearm, one at a time.  Similar to selling a vehicle.

There are some used gun pricing source books out there.  Principally S.P. Fjestad's Blue Book of Gun Values (current edition), but it is expensive, and unless dealing with really valuable collector firearms, not all that helpful as opposed to doing your own valuations.

If you haven't done it, you'll need a list of each firearm, make model, new or used (and serial number while your at it).

It's a good policy to never talk about this with neighbors or friends.  They may be trustworthy, but who will THEY tell (and so on)?

And BTW, those firearms are probably a better investment than any mutual fund you can find these days.

Also, OK probably has not passed a law requiring all private sales to be through an FFL (thank God).  But that doesn't mean you can't require one as part of any sale (for your own protection).  As a buyer, I wouldn't like that.  You may not decide to do this, but if any buyer you find makes you uncomfortable for any reason, you can add this in as a condition of sale (costs $30 or so, so you agree to pay it, or split it)

Feel free to email or PM me with more detailed questions, my email is on my profile.

Thank you, Jess
Will contact you later as I'm sure I will have questions.
No friends or family know about them.
A lot of guest frequent the forum so may try to delete some of the info I posted.

[shadowsoftime]

My home owners ins. only covers 1,500.00

[shadowsoftime]

Jess, All the hand guns are in safe deposit box. I didn't like having them in the house, theft, fire, tornado.Wife has the 357 magnum American Derringer corp Waco, Texas, I have the Ed Brown.
The long guns are off property in a safe.

OK.  Also keep in mind that most homeowner's insurance policies have very low limits for firearms (check yours).  To be fully insured (less deductible), you need to add a rider to the policy.  Or get a big honkin' safe and be self insured.  

On that Derringer (I have one), note that if loaded and and the hammer is fully down, a drop or mishap can fire it.  There is a slight halfcock mode, where the hammer is lifted off the striker.  So if loaded, put (and leave) it on halfcock (which is more like one-fifth cokk).

And I'd have at least one long gun (rifle or shotgun) at home.  But I don't know if you have kids, which is always a complicator.

The best way to value your firearms is to just type in a search, listing the specific make and model and add "for sale", and then start opening links, nationwide.  Write down the asking prices (understanding these may not be actual selling prices), and average them out.  For all unfired, new in box ones, look at new asking prices (but not MSRP, which for firearms is always higher than common sales prices).  But, right now there is a run on all guns, and the prices out there are getting somewhat higher than normal.

For each firearm, one at a time.  Similar to selling a vehicle.

There are some used gun pricing source books out there.  Principally S.P. Fjestad's Blue Book of Gun Values (current edition), but it is expensive, and unless dealing with really valuable collector firearms, not all that helpful as opposed to doing your own valuations.

If you haven't done it, you'll need a list of each firearm, make model, new or used (and serial number while your at it).

It's a good policy to never talk about this with neighbors or friends.  They may be trustworthy, but who will THEY tell (and so on)?

And BTW, those firearms are probably a better investment than any mutual fund you can find these days.

Also, OK probably has not passed a law requiring all private sales to be through an FFL (thank God).  But that doesn't mean you can't require one as part of any sale (for your own protection).  As a buyer, I wouldn't like that.  You may not decide to do this, but if any buyer you find makes you uncomfortable for any reason, you can add this in as a condition of sale (costs $30 or so, so you agree to pay it, or split it)

Feel free to email or PM me with more detailed questions, my email is on my profile.  

the derringer is trigger only, no hammer, could throw against brick wall would not fire.

[Jess from VA]

My mistake, I forgot they made these:


This is mine:  (with full house .44 mags, its an owee)

See the little space between the hammer and frame?

[shadowsoftime]

My mistake, I forgot they made these:


This is mine:  (with full house .44 mags, its an owee)

See the little space between the hammer and frame?

I have the one on top
I see the gap

[Bighead]

Guns off site and in a safe do you ZERO good. Just sayin.   

[Pappy!]

He also has some at the house ......

Let me give you an example of how much of a seller's market it is right now.
The friend I mentioned earlier that sells ammo. He was at a Gun Show down in Melbourne last weekend.
He gave me an example of how well the show went for him. He brought enough .380 ammo to last both Saturday and Sunday. He ran out of it by noon on Saturday. He cleared over 7 grand for the weekend after all expenses.
His gun sales buddies were just as happy. Good profits and moving any and all inventory.
Like I said earlier, you will do well. No need to drop your pants to get rid of them.

[shadowsoftime]

He also has some at the house ......

Let me give you an example of how much of a seller's market it is right now.
The friend I mentioned earlier that sells ammo. He was at a Gun Show down in Melbourne last weekend.
He gave me an example of how well the show went for him. He brought enough .380 ammo to last both Saturday and Sunday. He ran out of it by noon on Saturday. He cleared over 7 grand for the weekend after all expenses.
His gun sales buddies were just as happy. Good profits and moving any and all inventory.
Like I said earlier, you will do well. No need to drop your pants to get rid of them.

I have a couple ammo metal boxes, wrap guns in padding and carry in gun show but how do I sell them once inside.

[Jess from VA]

PM. 

[shadowsoftime]

PM. 

Got it, sent one back

[F6Dave]

I stopped by the Big R (local farm and ranch) store today for some hardware.  Since Walmart backed away it's the only nearby place that sells ammo, so I was curious what was left.  The shelves were bare except for some $65 a box .44 mag rounds.  I've never seen it like this.  People must be filling up their basements.

[Rams]

I was at a local gun dealer just this past weekend, I asked how was business.

He said, "It hasn't been this good since Obama was in office."

His parking lot is always packed, I don't know how much he sells but, every time I go by there it seems like someone is walking out with a firearm.

Rams

[shadowsoftime]

Maybe my guns are worth more than I thought.
Kinda like stock market, gotta know best time to sell.
Dad always said ''Nothing stays the same''

[shadowsoftime]

Serk, PM

[Jess from VA]

Serk, PM

I don't think so. 

[shadowsoftime]

Serk, PM

I don't think so. 

 

[Pappy!]

Like I said originally.
You can set up and sell as a private seller in Florida. Not sure about where you live.
I always see guys with some sort of boxed pistol or a slinged rifle over a shoulder with a 4-sale sign. These guys are usually just selling that one firearm or perhaps two at best.
But what I also see and have taken advantage of on more than one occasion are the tables with private sale or estate sale signs on them. If it is legal where you live I do believe I would still have the buyer go through a dealer having a FFL and a background check. The dealer can charge a minimal fee and these days it is probably worth it.