Willow
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« on: September 18, 2020, 12:26:02 PM » |
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When one has been eating onions with his burger and burps behind a mouth and nose covering mask ...  I just don't think the people who mandated this silly practice have considered all the possible negative impacts.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2020, 01:14:28 PM » |
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Or even considered that it might be an overkill reaction ...
I went to Hutchinson wednesday night, to stay with my sister. we, her fiance, and one of our brothers went out for pizza at Gambino's in South Hutch (different town). Thursday we went to a memorial service for an aunt (one of dad's sisters), then I stopped by a coffeeshop in downtown Hutch to meet a friend of mine. In all these encounters, it was striking compared to my usual haunts of Wyandotte and Johnson counties (KC Metro area) on their attitudes about mask use - much more casual. Yet, the infection rate for Reno county (except for the reformitory - which sister's fiance works at) seems much lower.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2020, 02:23:52 PM » |
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Does mask affect people with COPD.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2020, 03:08:44 PM » |
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Does mask affect people with COPD.
Apparently, my cousin with COPD / lung cancer and few other breathing issues has issues with a mask on.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2020, 03:27:34 PM » |
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Today while out on the coffee maker hunt I saw a couple people wearing clear plastic face shields. Now I feel those are worse than useless but none the less people use them. The thought hit me. Will that person have the brass to leave the clear plastic shield down if they sneeze or cough? I doubt it that thing is getting lifted up. So what good is it? Imagine if they left it down and had to sneeze. Gross!!! People just don’t think.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2020, 03:34:01 PM » |
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When one has been eating onions with his burger and burps behind a mouth and nose covering mask ...  I just don't think the people who mandated this silly practice have considered all the possible negative impacts. You can enjoy those onions a 2nd time. Win Win situation.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2020, 03:34:20 PM » |
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Told the gal in the drug store today the one good thing about wearing a mask is it lets you know if your mouthwash is working. Mine did before lunch, after lunch....not so much. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2020, 03:48:37 PM » |
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Does mask affect people with COPD.
I have C O P D. The answer is YES. My O2 levels are low without supplemental oxygen. A mask just makes it THAT much Worse. Mentioned this before when I have my O2 bottle with me no mask required. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2020, 04:26:27 PM » |
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Well, if you have teeth missing you know longer have to put your hand over your mouth when you smile or laugh. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2020, 04:56:58 PM » |
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Be careful picking up a partner.  Remember the old paper bag theory.  da prez
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2020, 05:29:33 PM » |
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Long as she isn't a double or triple bagger ----
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2020, 07:05:32 PM » |
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Does mask affect people with COPD.
Apparently, my cousin with COPD / lung cancer and few other breathing issues has issues with a mask on. so do I have trouble breathing thru the 'required' mask at work in the office even no COPD. Our illustrious HR and mgmt. is implementing for now ONLY voluntary back in office starting this Monday already Sept. 21 and I declined to come in not going in if required to wear those stupid masks that they have at work. I can wear them 1-2 hours but I breath heavier than most and it really does affect my ability to breath normal and sweating and water droplets all over the mask. Our company is ONLY ONE that I know of in Madison WI wanting employees to go back ASAP very soon and although voluntary, even with over now 15% spike coming back positive testing in WI, idiots in charge at work wants us back in although social distancing blah blah blah. Get this, mgmt. says NO mask required if in an office with walls (basically big shots) but those sitting in a cubicle all of us required to be 10 feet or so apart making distance vs. say 5-6 feet apart like we were required to wear masks at all times besides eating or drinking of course. I say what is the difference office social distancing or in a cubicle 10 feet apart?  Plus, productivity by me at home has increased since no interruptions able to get smidge more work done vs. going into work being bugged in person by others every single day. Proves that work can be done as effectively at home vs. wasting time and money and office space full of people spreading germs at the microwave, drinking fountain (that is going to be roped off), bathroom, and who knows if I have Covid showing no signs but I spread it to 2 older ladies in late 60's I work with daily? Hate to say it, but I wish someone in our dept. contracts COVID with all of us at work eventually or probably on Monday maybe 1/4th of us in the office (not me), then having to force all of us home again to work for 14+ or more days and get tested again, very dumb. basically, if my productivety level these past 5 months at home has stayed the same or gained some as evident by not being behind, then why mess with it taking the chance of someone dying? I know one person in our office who has very very bad health issues in wheelchair, diabetic, muscular dystrophy gets sick a lot already, and if he gets Covid, will not end well I bet. yes, some are taking advantage of the situation am sure in every company, especially with children at home still needing attention, but that is not me so why mess with a good thing? My company is not 'essential' and is the only company that I know of talking to several people thinking of making people come back into the office in 2020 still most all other companies in the same area are thinking 2021 sometime. Would be nice to have a vaccine before putting people together in one big building as evident on why the infection rate of all people tested spiked once UW college opened back up and other college campuses as well from say 8 percent to over 15% of all tested came back positive.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2020, 03:51:49 AM » |
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Does mask affect people with COPD.
Apparently, my cousin with COPD / lung cancer and few other breathing issues has issues with a mask on. so do I have trouble breathing thru the 'required' mask at work in the office even no COPD. Our illustrious HR and mgmt. is implementing for now ONLY voluntary back in office starting this Monday already Sept. 21 and I declined to come in not going in if required to wear those stupid masks that they have at work. I can wear them 1-2 hours but I breath heavier than most and it really does affect my ability to breath normal and sweating and water droplets all over the mask. Our company is ONLY ONE that I know of in Madison WI wanting employees to go back ASAP very soon and although voluntary, even with over now 15% spike coming back positive testing in WI, idiots in charge at work wants us back in although social distancing blah blah blah. Get this, mgmt. says NO mask required if in an office with walls (basically big shots) but those sitting in a cubicle all of us required to be 10 feet or so apart making distance vs. say 5-6 feet apart like we were required to wear masks at all times besides eating or drinking of course. I say what is the difference office social distancing or in an office?  Plus, productivity by me at home has increased since no interruptions able to get smidge more work done vs. going into work being bugged in person by others every single day. Proves that work can be done as effectively at home vs. wasting time and money and office space full of people spreading germs at the microwave, drinking fountain (that is going to be roped off), bathroom, and who knows if I have Covid showing no signs but I spread it to 2 older ladies in late 60's I work with daily? Hate to say it, but I wish someone in our dept. contracts COVID with all of us at work eventually or probably on Monday maybe 1/4th of us in the office (not me), then having to force all of us home again to work for 14+ or more days and get tested again, very dumb. basically, if my productivety level these past 5 months at home has stayed the same or gained some as evident by not being behind, then why mess with it taking the chance of someone dying? I know one person in our office who has very very bad health issues in wheelchair, diabetic, muscular dystrophy gets sick a lot already, and if he gets Covid, will not end well I bet. yes, some are taking advantage of the situation am sure in every company, especially with children at home still needing attention, but that is not me so why mess with a good thing? My company is not 'essential' and is the only company that I know of talking to several people thinking of making people come back into the office in 2020 still most all other companies in the same area are thinking 2021 sometime. Would be nice to have a vaccine before putting people together in one big building as evident on why the infection rate of all people tested spiked once UW college opened back up and other college campuses as well from say 8 percent to over 15% of all tested came back positive. I had a couple dental appointments in the last couple weeks and while I was never more than 5 minutes in the waiting room, I did notice in each room of the office there was an air purifier. I don’t know the brands but the couple I was near I did notice they were whisper quiet, yet air flow was excellent. I don’t know how well they work or if they really work at all removing a virus from the air, but I did notice smell of the entire office was completely different (in a good “clean/fresh/crisp“ way) from what I remember from past visits to the office. I’m not recommending you go out and buy some for the office but maybe a recommendation for the company in their office. I don’t know how many people are in your office but my dentist has himself and 3 or 4 assistants and is a very busy practice.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2020, 08:59:24 AM » |
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few hundred people or more in the one big old building. an air purifier will be pointless the building was constructed in the 1930's and just got done with a recent addition and remodeling so dust and mold are prevalent all over right now. One day I walked back into the old part of the warehouse with NO lights and old eqmt/parts on racking not used in the past 40 years or more and WOW, what a dungeon it was.
Our office space is a converted warehouse portion of the 1930's building recently remodeled as it needed it. They added 2 new additions and updated some of the existing old spaces we sit in to make it not look like 1960s before I was born to the tune of a 10 million dollar renovation. That is where our raises went all in 2020 no raises either will be about 2 1/2 total years before we all get another 2-2.75% raise, some heard last time only got 1.5% raise near 1 1/2 years ago now. They also recently took all 401K company match away until who knows when? Hiring freezes as well but WOW, every few weeks I see new mgmt. coming into place wonder what is up with that? I recently cashed a check from a big shot mgr. they hired to the tune of 36K for reimbursement of 'moving expenses/relocation fee' he gave back to the company. Poor baby, that is more than I make there in a years salary feel so sorry for him. One sales mgr. in company wide email came from my ex employer company who I know might not have paid more, but the health insurance and overall benefits were better than my current company has now for sure so he must have gotten a HUGE pay increase to compensate for worse benefits overall.
As far as face coverings: We all in our dept. had to have a zoom mtg. this Friday with ONLY 15 minutes notice is all and we all had to send an email to our POS mgr. on our 'intent' to come back to work for she told us all expect sooner rather than later for all to be in office even though COVID 19 rate infection in past 5 months has gone from 8% to over 15% positive cases tested in WI, now that the renovation/addition is finally completed in our building. I emailed her back stating the 'required' masks they give us require to wear 8 hours I cannot breath well in which is true vs. the ones I have at home more breathable or how about wearing a clear face shield instead although glare might be an issue working on PC all day long keying? Plus, my productivity level at home 5 months now is same or gone up so why need to be in office at all? I do not get bugged at home nor interrupted by others coming up to me to 'chat' ever. I think the email from her came from HR since they want to know who is coming in on Monday and who is NOT, which will be me for now at home for as long as possible, since is voluntary into office so far. Hate to say it, but hope someone in office gets Covid and forces all into office next week to stay home another 14 days. Why be into office at all if can do same amount of work or more from home as proven the past 5 months at home daily? My biggest argument on working in office is we have an older lady whom most cannot stand who is in our POS mgrs. back pocket think she is GOD who is allowed to work from her home in state of Oklahoma vs. moving to WI in our office. If she can do it, so can I right? Only reason she is allowed ONLY ONE is because she has been there awhile and knows her stuff overall, although a _itch and having run ins with her since she messes up stuff all the time for my dept. and my direct boss knows it but her boss is the POS mgr. who thinks that lady is GOD. Too bad my employer cannot get rid of all of HR and mgrs./supervisors, would be a good place to work again since almost all coworkers in our dept. are nice and get along. One lady in our dept. I talked to on phone for 30 minutes on Thursday mostly about work related been there 38 years since age 18 only full time job she had said that _itch old lady in Oklahoma has our mgrs. boss fooled thinking she is not replaceable and she agrees that place some 15 or so years ago was a decent place until they decided to ship most of our outdated factory to Mexico for slave labor. Now that she is pushing age 60 she only has few years to go so sticking it out but have seen 6 younger (under age 50) employees in my 15 person dept. leave in past 2 years. One in HR or mgmt. would ask why most leaving right?
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2020, 10:13:11 AM » |
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When one has been eating onions with his burger and burps behind a mouth and nose covering mask ...  I just don't think the people who mandated this silly practice have considered all the possible negative impacts. Not quite as bad as farting just as one is about to sit down on the toilet. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2020, 10:15:53 AM » |
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When one has been eating onions with his burger and burps behind a mouth and nose covering mask ...  I just don't think the people who mandated this silly practice have considered all the possible negative impacts. Not quite as bad as farting just as one is about to sit down on the toilet.   at least those farts haven't killed anybody. (As far as I know)
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