Why not just say it?

[..]

Fun fact: I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until just a few years ago.  So, there's no need to paint me as a lifelong left wing enemy of all things Republican.  Trump's Republican part isn't the one I used to belong to.  That's why I left. He and people like him are why I left.  I have voted for both parties at different times and never let my affiliation determine my vote.  

If that's true, why don't you list three policies from the Democrats you like, and three you dislike from your former Republican party.  Many of us have been waiting for the dems on this board to tell us where they stand for years.  Maybe you can be the first!

When you vote for a candidate, a lot of party baggage comes with the package.  It's amazing how many voters don't understand that, and naively 'vote for the person'.

OMG ! There are literally thousands of posts from liberals explaining what they stand for. Possibly millions of posts from conservatives explaining what they stand for. I won't be the first, but it's possible to be the last.

Deflect, deny, distract.   

True to form. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Fun fact: I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until just a few years ago.  So, there's no need to paint me as a lifelong left wing enemy of all things Republican.  Trump's Republican part isn't the one I used to belong to.  That's why I left. He and people like him are why I left.  I have voted for both parties at different times and never let my affiliation determine my vote.  

If that's true, why don't you list three policies from the Democrats you like, and three you dislike from your former Republican party.  Many of us have been waiting for the dems on this board to tell us where they stand for years.  Maybe you can be the first!

When you vote for a candidate, a lot of party baggage comes with the package.  It's amazing how many voters don't understand that, and naively 'vote for the person'.

OMG ! There are literally thousands of posts from liberals explaining what they stand for. Possibly millions of posts from conservatives explaining what they stand for. I won't be the first, but it's possible to be the last.

Deflect, deny, distract.   

True to form. 

You want us liberals to state again where we stand ? I'm sure threevalks, and many others, would prefer not.

[..]

Fun fact: I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until just a few years ago.  So, there's no need to paint me as a lifelong left wing enemy of all things Republican.  Trump's Republican part isn't the one I used to belong to.  That's why I left. He and people like him are why I left.  I have voted for both parties at different times and never let my affiliation determine my vote.  

If that's true, why don't you list three policies from the Democrats you like, and three you dislike from your former Republican party.  Many of us have been waiting for the dems on this board to tell us where they stand for years.  Maybe you can be the first!

When you vote for a candidate, a lot of party baggage comes with the package.  It's amazing how many voters don't understand that, and naively 'vote for the person'.

OMG ! There are literally thousands of posts from liberals explaining what they stand for. Possibly millions of posts from conservatives explaining what they stand for. I won't be the first, but it's possible to be the last.

Deflect, deny, distract.   

True to form. 

You want us liberals to state again where we stand ? I'm sure threevalks, and many others, would prefer not.

And repeat

Deflect, deny, distract.   

True to form. 

[G-Man]

I do not hate him.  I just refuse to buy what he's selling. 

You said you HATED him since the 80's.

That's A LOT of hate.

 

[Rams]

Reference SCOTUS and the coming nomination.  

The Dems are screaming foul.   Does anyone think that if the Dems controled the WH and the Senate the same thing would not be happening?   The roles would be reversed and the Republicans would be screaming foul.   Does anyone really believe that if the 2016 election had turned out differently and evil had taken up residence in the WH that Satan's bride wouldn't be putting a Liberal ass in that seat?

Squeal and squirm all you want, the pendulum swings both ways and the left has had it's time.   Honestly, this nomination is just as important as this upcoming election (if not more).   President Trump was handed the opportunity and would be letting this country down should he not nominate a qualified jurist.

Although I refuse to switch political parties, I find it extremely difficult to find a Conservative Democrat I can support.   As someone else said, I didn't leave the party, they left me.

Rams

[Alien]

Fun fact: I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until just a few years ago.  So, there's no need to paint me as a lifelong left wing enemy of all things Republican.  Trump's Republican part isn't the one I used to belong to.  That's why I left. He and people like him are why I left.  I have voted for both parties at different times and never let my affiliation determine my vote. 

If that's true, why don't you list three policies from the Democrats you like, and three you dislike from your former Republican party.  Many of us have been waiting for the dems on this board to tell us where they stand for years.  Maybe you can be the first!

When you vote for a candidate, a lot of party baggage comes with the package.  It's amazing how many voters don't understand that, and naively 'vote for the person'.

Ok, that's fair.  

Three Democratic ideals I support:
1. Egalitarianism
2. Affordable medical care for all Americans
3. The recognition and protection of the rights of alternative lifestyle individuals and minorities.

Republican ideals thst I do not support:
1. Anti-abortion legislation
2. Anti labor union legislation
3. The attempt to legislate Christian values.

[..]

Fun fact: I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until just a few years ago.  So, there's no need to paint me as a lifelong left wing enemy of all things Republican.  Trump's Republican part isn't the one I used to belong to.  That's why I left. He and people like him are why I left.  I have voted for both parties at different times and never let my affiliation determine my vote. 

If that's true, why don't you list three policies from the Democrats you like, and three you dislike from your former Republican party.  Many of us have been waiting for the dems on this board to tell us where they stand for years.  Maybe you can be the first!

When you vote for a candidate, a lot of party baggage comes with the package.  It's amazing how many voters don't understand that, and naively 'vote for the person'.

Ok, that's fair.  

Three Democratic ideals I support:
1. Egalitarianism
2. Affordable medical care for all Americans
3. The recognition and protection of the rights of alternative lifestyle individuals and minorities.

Republican ideals thst I do not support:
1. Anti-abortion legislation
2. Anti labor union legislation
3. The attempt to legislate Christian values.

Is a policy also an ideal?

[Alien]

Fun fact: I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until just a few years ago.  So, there's no need to paint me as a lifelong left wing enemy of all things Republican.  Trump's Republican part isn't the one I used to belong to.  That's why I left. He and people like him are why I left.  I have voted for both parties at different times and never let my affiliation determine my vote. 

If that's true, why don't you list three policies from the Democrats you like, and three you dislike from your former Republican party.  Many of us have been waiting for the dems on this board to tell us where they stand for years.  Maybe you can be the first!

When you vote for a candidate, a lot of party baggage comes with the package.  It's amazing how many voters don't understand that, and naively 'vote for the person'.

Ok, that's fair.  

Three Democratic ideals I support:
1. Egalitarianism
2. Affordable medical care for all Americans
3. The recognition and protection of the rights of alternative lifestyle individuals and minorities.

Republican ideals thst I do not support:
1. Anti-abortion legislation
2. Anti labor union legislation
3. The attempt to legislate Christian values.

Is a policy also an ideal?

Well, as the ideals of a party shape their policies...yes.

[f6john]

Fun fact: I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until just a few years ago.  So, there's no need to paint me as a lifelong left wing enemy of all things Republican.  Trump's Republican part isn't the one I used to belong to.  That's why I left. He and people like him are why I left.  I have voted for both parties at different times and never let my affiliation determine my vote. 

If that's true, why don't you list three policies from the Democrats you like, and three you dislike from your former Republican party.  Many of us have been waiting for the dems on this board to tell us where they stand for years.  Maybe you can be the first!

When you vote for a candidate, a lot of party baggage comes with the package.  It's amazing how many voters don't understand that, and naively 'vote for the person'.

Ok, that's fair.  

Three Democratic ideals I support:
1. Egalitarianism
2. Affordable medical care for all Americans
3. The recognition and protection of the rights of alternative lifestyle individuals and minorities.

Republican ideals thst I do not support:
1. Anti-abortion legislation
2. Anti labor union legislation
3. The attempt to legislate Christian values.

Thank you, that tells me everything I care to know about you.

[Patrick]

' I'm trying to help you wake up. '




We're not the ones that need waking up. You're still a youngster to most of us. Hopefully you'll change your mind when you grow up. Most of us did.

[Dave Ritsema]

I do not hate him.  I just refuse to buy what he's selling. 

Then quit yer bitchin' and vote for who you like.  I'll do the same.

EXACTLY!

[..]

Fun fact: I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until just a few years ago.  So, there's no need to paint me as a lifelong left wing enemy of all things Republican.  Trump's Republican part isn't the one I used to belong to.  That's why I left. He and people like him are why I left.  I have voted for both parties at different times and never let my affiliation determine my vote.  

If that's true, why don't you list three policies from the Democrats you like, and three you dislike from your former Republican party.  Many of us have been waiting for the dems on this board to tell us where they stand for years.  Maybe you can be the first!

When you vote for a candidate, a lot of party baggage comes with the package.  It's amazing how many voters don't understand that, and naively 'vote for the person'.

Ok, that's fair.  

Three Democratic ideals I support:
1. Egalitarianism
2. Affordable medical care for all Americans
3. The recognition and protection of the rights of alternative lifestyle individuals and minorities.

Republican ideals thst I do not support:
1. Anti-abortion legislation
2. Anti labor union legislation
3. The attempt to legislate Christian values.

Is a policy also an ideal?

Well, as the ideals of a party shape their policies...yes.

So  are you hoping for ideals to become policies??

[Alien]

Not Republican ideals.  I don't want to have to wade through the Christian Right wing's decisions on how I should live my life.

[scooperhsd]

biden handlers have hired 100's of lawyers to contest when he looses.
dukakis was last lib to peacefully concede.

SO has Trump / the Republican Party. 

I expect this is going to be a LONG drawn out , choatic process of selecting the President. I just read an article in the Atlantic about just how nasty it's going to be - here's the link -

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

[Rams]

biden handlers have hired 100's of lawyers to contest when he looses.
dukakis was last lib to peacefully concede.

SO has Trump / the Republican Party.  

I expect this is going to be a LONG drawn out , choatic process of selecting the President. I just read an article in the Atlantic about just how nasty it's going to be - here's the link -

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

The Atlantic is one of the most Left Wing biased pieces of trash on the news stand.   Nothing in that or previous prints give President Trump credit for anything positive.   What could happen and what will happen are two different scenarios.  But, as our President said, we shall see.

While I will not vote for the Harris/Biden ticket, if they are elected, I will respect the office of POTUS until it no longer deserves that respect.

Rams

[Patrick]

The Atlantic ?!

Didn't we just go thru the crap with this useless rag ?

[_Sheffjs_]

Alien, did you go to one of those stupid classes on customer service persuasion one too many times?  

[Patrick]

biden handlers have hired 100's of lawyers to contest when he looses.
dukakis was last lib to peacefully concede.

SO has Trump / the Republican Party. 

I expect this is going to be a LONG drawn out , choatic process of selecting the President. I just read an article in the Atlantic about just how nasty it's going to be - here's the link -

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

And for good reason, all things considered.

The latest being the batch of 'discarded' ballots. 9 ballots found thrown away. 7 were open and showed Trump was voted for on all 7.

I would seriously doubt any discarded ballots would be checked in favor of biden.

[scooperhsd]

My feeling is this election is going to be one big S***storm no matter who "wins" - unless it is overwhelmingly one or the other by a margin so large that mailin ballots won't matter.

[baldo]

biden handlers have hired 100's of lawyers to contest when he looses.
dukakis was last lib to peacefully concede.

SO has Trump / the Republican Party. 

I expect this is going to be a LONG drawn out , choatic process of selecting the President. I just read an article in the Atlantic about just how nasty it's going to be - here's the link -

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

And for good reason, all things considered.

The latest being the batch of 'discarded' ballots. 9 ballots found thrown away. 7 were open and showed Trump was voted for on all 7.

I would seriously doubt any discarded ballots would be checked in favor of biden.

Read the details on this story before any panties get twisted.

[Patrick]

biden handlers have hired 100's of lawyers to contest when he looses.
dukakis was last lib to peacefully concede.

SO has Trump / the Republican Party. 

I expect this is going to be a LONG drawn out , choatic process of selecting the President. I just read an article in the Atlantic about just how nasty it's going to be - here's the link -

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

And for good reason, all things considered.

The latest being the batch of 'discarded' ballots. 9 ballots found thrown away. 7 were open and showed Trump was voted for on all 7.

I would seriously doubt any discarded ballots would be checked in favor of biden.

Read the details on this story before any panties get twisted.

I have.

[Patrick]

In an area in VA over 1000 people got 2 mail-in ballots.

A friend has received 3.

[OnaWingandaPrayer]

So here is the question posed by the reporter

Reporter: "Win, lose or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peaceful transferal of power after the election" President Trump: "We're going to have to see what happens

Why in the heck would you commit to peaceful transfer if you win? 
You folks are unbelievable. You twist and turn words out of context, snip/clip sound bites just  to hear what you want to hear.

[The emperor has no clothes]

So here is the question posed by the reporter

Reporter: "Win, lose or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peaceful transferal of power after the election" President Trump: "We're going to have to see what happens

Why in the heck would you commit to peaceful transfer if you win? 
You folks are unbelievable. You twist and turn words out of context, snip/clip sound bites just  to hear what you want to hear.

Seriously ?


Here is the quote of what he said. The full quote.
"We'll have to see what happens, you know that I've been strongly complaining about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster. Get rid of the ballots and we'll have a very peaceful — there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation."

[baldo]

So here is the question posed by the reporter

Reporter: "Win, lose or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peaceful transferal of power after the election" President Trump: "We're going to have to see what happens

Why in the heck would you commit to peaceful transfer if you win? 
You folks are unbelievable. You twist and turn words out of context, snip/clip sound bites just  to hear what you want to hear.

Seriously ?


Here is the quote of what he said. The full quote.
"We'll have to see what happens, you know that I've been strongly complaining about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster. Get rid of the ballots and we'll have a very peaceful — there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation."

Watch out Rob, careful how you use those facts around here.

[Oss]

I heard the speech on OAN

He did not say vote twice.  Twist words as you will

The agenda is beat Trump by any means necessary. This includes mail in ballots for which there is
zero accountability of quality control  If you support this you are not getting the big picture

A person can buy food then they can go to the poll or else they can ask NOW for absentee ballot and do it the way it should be done

And being anti 9 month or partial birth abortion is not just a christian value

No right is absolute   If you believe otherwise then there is no grey

And why doesn't the father get a say after the fetus is viable?  After all he would have to support the child for 18 yrs?  

Personally I always felt after a certain period the rights of the fetus should equal the right of the mother unless the life of the mother would terminate during birth

Not  a Christian though

Oss

Yeah and I dont eat bacon either    unless its turkey bacon

[baldo]

biden handlers have hired 100's of lawyers to contest when he looses.
dukakis was last lib to peacefully concede.

SO has Trump / the Republican Party.  

I expect this is going to be a LONG drawn out , choatic process of selecting the President. I just read an article in the Atlantic about just how nasty it's going to be - here's the link -

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

And for good reason, all things considered.

The latest being the batch of 'discarded' ballots. 9 ballots found thrown away. 7 were open and showed Trump was voted for on all 7.

I would seriously doubt any discarded ballots would be checked in favor of biden.

Read the details on this story before any panties get twisted.

I have.

More on this 'story'...

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2020/09/the-9-discarded-ballots-were-tossed-because-republicans-won-their-lawsuit-requiring-them-to-not-be-counted-report/?fbclid=IwAR1YcBIQYbuDguHEITMdJjfj2KDcs9eiGD1rbc71dButJ8F2ag6of4YtmAY

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/temp-tossed-pennsylvania-ballots-trump-complained-about-official-says-n1241128?fbclid=IwAR2nW8eZWRghaykmdjDmS6hIVYdr6T0JLwdEndevm_x-1mfY3bB3xSIlyPQ

[Jersey mike]

Rumor has it in N.J. is that there is no check or balance if someone votes via a mailed to you/addressed to you MAIL IN BALLOT and then decides to vote in person VIA PROVISIONAL Paper Ballot at their polling place.

Now it’s pretty much a given that N.J. will be a Blue State going to Biden.

[Patrick]

biden handlers have hired 100's of lawyers to contest when he looses.
dukakis was last lib to peacefully concede.

SO has Trump / the Republican Party.  

I expect this is going to be a LONG drawn out , choatic process of selecting the President. I just read an article in the Atlantic about just how nasty it's going to be - here's the link -

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

And for good reason, all things considered.

The latest being the batch of 'discarded' ballots. 9 ballots found thrown away. 7 were open and showed Trump was voted for on all 7.

I would seriously doubt any discarded ballots would be checked in favor of biden.

Read the details on this story before any panties get twisted.

I have.

More on this 'story'...

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2020/09/the-9-discarded-ballots-were-tossed-because-republicans-won-their-lawsuit-requiring-them-to-not-be-counted-report/?fbclid=IwAR1YcBIQYbuDguHEITMdJjfj2KDcs9eiGD1rbc71dButJ8F2ag6of4YtmAY

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/temp-tossed-pennsylvania-ballots-trump-complained-about-official-says-n1241128?fbclid=IwAR2nW8eZWRghaykmdjDmS6hIVYdr6T0JLwdEndevm_x-1mfY3bB3xSIlyPQ

What a crock. They were not counted because some fool opened and separated the envelopes deaming them 'naked' and now useless. So they were thrown away apparently in a poor attempt at covering up the screw up, at best. Or at worst they just got caught is a criminal activity.

[Patrick]

Rumor has it in N.J. is that there is no check or balance if someone votes via a mailed to you/addressed to you MAIL IN BALLOT and then decides to vote in person VIA PROVISIONAL Paper Ballot at their polling place.

Now it’s pretty much a given that N.J. will be a Blue State going to Biden.

I don't believe NJ is alone in that. It recently happened in VA and NYS. A friend always votes personally but called for a ballot to see what would happen. He received 3. The local commish says there are no checks/balances for the mail-in ballot procedures.
There are only 2 correct ways, at this point, to vote. In person or Absentee.

NYS is also a blue state because of the more populated areas and of course NYC. So biden is pretty much guaranteed to take this state. I do see more folks moving towards Trump though.