Do you support any new gun legislation?

[Jess from VA]

Back home in MI 50 years ago, when I wanted my first firearm (intending to join and compete with the Ann Arbor Rifle Club at the brand new EMU ROTC indoor range, and be instructed by their retired Army Sgt Major and former US Olympic coach) I had to go to my local chief of police and ask him to issue me a permit to purchase the firearm.  

He asked what I wanted to buy, and I told him the Smith & Wesson Model K-38 Target Masterpiece Revolver Model 14.  (I was old enough, and had no disqualifying problems).  He said that was too much gun for my first, and I should get a .22.  I said a target .22 was going to be my next purchase, when I saved up the money.  I had to beg him and he finally relented.  At that time, no one could buy a new handgun unless the local police chief said you could, and issued you a permit to purchase.

The permit, once issued, was only good for about 10 says, so you needed to find the one you wanted at a store before you asked for the purchase permit, and then run over and hope someone else didn't get it first.    

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, except by the local chief of police (of a 12 man outfit).

I have no idea if there was even any official avenue of appeal, short of filing some kind of lawsuit.  

[F6Dave]

At Inzane a while back I met a firearm owner from Canada. His girlfriend was a Mountie. Apparently their government doesn't trust police to take firearms home, so she had to check hers in at the end of each shift. While at his home, it was illegal for her (or anyone else) to even touch his firearm -- that would be an illegal 'transfer'. He had to keep it locked up, and the key could not be easily distinguishable from other keys! That's a lot of 'gun safety', but it wasn't enough. Trudeau now wants more bans.

It will never be enough. So called 'universal ' background checks use a poll tested word (like 'undocumented' or 'progressive') to deceive the public. The real intent is to criminalize any private firearm transfers that aren't approved and documented by the government. And a 'transfer' is broadly defined: in some states it includes giving a firearm to a family member, lending one to a neighbor for protection, or allowing a friend to try your rifle at a range or while hunting.

[Kep]

The two most sought after items to steal in home invasions and robberies and B & Es, are drugs and guns.  Cash and valuables are only 3d.  

Any person who has a criminal record (or any other kind of record) that will come up in a standard FFL background check (that already exists) that makes them lawfully ineligible to buy and own firearms never buy guns from FFLs.  If they are caught doing so, it's another felony (IF anyone will prosecute it, and there is a long history of chronic failure to prosecute it).  

They steal them or buy them from other criminals.  And prices are generally cheaper than FFLs too.  

While private sales (in states that don't require them all to go through an FFL; the so called gun show
loophole) do occur, criminals are not known to pursue many private sales (except from other criminals).  

It's my experience that private sellers (without an FFL background check requirement) are extremely careful and vigilant about who they sell to if it's not to known friends or family.  Many private sellers require a buyer to show a state issue CCW to make a sale, and you can't get a CCW without a full background check to ensure you are a lawful firearm owner.  It does happen, but not that often.  

No lawful owner ever wants to sell to a prohibited person.  If they don't require a CCW, they require a driver's license and other ID, compare photos to the buyer, and write down the name address and other data and keep it for their records.

A national required background check for all private sales is not going to stop any criminals from getting guns.... the same way they always have.  But it is a good way to add information in creating a national registry of private firearm owners.  

While our current administration is handing out "Free stuff" ...maybe they should hand out free gun safes so guns will be less likely to be stolen in home invasion...just a thought.....But seriously , maybe giving a huge tax credit for purchasing one might be a thought.

[Skinhead]

Firearms aren't the problem.  More gun laws/restrictions won't help.  Severe punishment for crimes committed with a firearm will help.  The "powers that be" aren't concerned with your safety and well being, they are concerned with controlling we citizens.  Criminals, adult and juvenile alike, need to be held accountable when caught illegally possessing a firearm.   I'll go even further, if convicted of intentionally harming/killing a person(s) with any weapon, (knife , car, hammer, whatever) severe penalties, and no reduced sentences

[Patrick]

I think they are going to try and do something about it today. I'm sure we'll be shaking our heads with what they come up with.



We all know that the guns are not the issue and that more laws are not the answer.

But, we do have a problem that needs to be dealt with.

[F6Dave]

Jon Caldera, president of the Independence Institute in Colorado, wrote this over a year ago as COVID restrictions were winding down:

“The reality is mentally disturbed boys, after a year of festering loneliness and anger, will be coming through your kid’s school doors … violence is coming back to our schools. We are fools not to realize this and take action now.”

His organization provides firearm training for school employees.

[old2soon]

     That Shall NOT Be Infringed part. I'll see if I can get Ross-daprez-to relate the fun and games he went thru getting his CCW in Illinois! You Know Il. IS controlled by democrats and you KNOW being Il. there Are outrageous fees involved for Your 2nd Ammendment RIGHTS!
     It could have been worse here in Missouri but it was Not! I held off for a bit cuz some dim bulb in Jefferson City Mo.-capital-decided ALL CCW Information belonged in deception central. I also KNOW the Required backround check is down by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
      I AM with the Majority of others here that Not ONLY believe but also KNOW more laws are NOT the answer "they" are seeking. Someone else stated we have a people problem. And I WILL leave That right there! RIDE SAFE.