This Just Disgusts Me.... Political (sorry, PMS)

[Skinhead]

What a scumbag!!

An Insult To Our Democracy	powered by Aeva

[mikeb]

ive been an few meetings like that!!!

[BF]

It seems to me to be pretty indicative of the way Democrats do business all the time.   

[solo1]

It seems to me to be pretty indicative of the way Democrats do business all the time.   

Very true but Murtha is especially a professional PIA and Arrogant SOB.  He ranks right up there with Barney.

[Jabba]

My gues sis that the Reps are guilty of similar. 

But that does not belay the fact that this is reprehensible.

Jabba

[98 T]

This is almost like a cartoon or a Saturday Night Live skit!!!  It would be funny if it weren't so DAMN serious. When in power, apparently it's the custom to just ram your policies through before anyone in the public pays attention.  Democracy by secrecy and trickery......  I wonder what piece of "important" legislation Murtha was attempting to jam through.  I'm pretty sure it probably involved some spending of OUR money!!!

The Rep- Sensenbrenner who was trying to object -  is from my area and is my representative... he's a good guy and I like him...but for the greater good of our country, I would support flushing then ALL out if it meant cleaning house and starting over. Way more bad people would be flushed out along with a few good ones too.    Murtha is the poster child for why term limits are necessary.  God help us all... these clowns have my wallet in their hands when they're working!! And most of them are spending like it's someone else's money!!!!

[alph]

So, what is the difference between a dictator and a democrat?

Does Anyone know?

[hotglue #43]

So, what is the difference between a dictator and a democrat?

Does Anyone know?

ELECTION DAY...... We.... ALL of us have to take responsibility

[Blackduck KS]

There`s no differance they all steal our money.

 

[DIGGER]

So, what is the difference between a dictator and a democrat?

Does Anyone know?

ELECTION DAY...... We.... ALL of us have to take responsibility

THEN NEXT ELECTION DAY DON'T VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN OFFICE.  VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!!

[Willow]

THEN NEXT ELECTION DAY DON'T VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN OFFICE.  VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!!

That's a popular but very naive sentiment.

The political parties have plenty of potential candidates waiting in the system that have not yet been elected to Washington or state office.  Guess what?  they've been brought up in the same political system so they will tend to be carbon copies of what you're voting out.

Taking responsibility means being involved very early in the political process and supporting candidates that you're sure truly represent the values you can support. 

There are some good politicians.  Sadly, one who represents me has announced that he won't be seeking re-election.  Sam Brownback is an honorable and honest man who has been a breath of fresh air in national politics.  He's stepping away from the Senate because he believes in term limits.  This is a case in which term limits hurt rather than help.  I'll vote for Sam Brownback in just about any case he's up for election.

The problem is not entirely them.  It's also us.  In most cases our political electees accurately reflect the voting public.  The first step of political responsibility is being sure that we ourselves are the honorable peoplewe could trust in elected office.  We can each only take that step for one voter.

My two cents.  It's probably worth about what you paid for it. 

[G-Man]

The only problem with voting them all out is that there are very few, if any, good, smart, and experienced people to replace them. 

This past year has been absolutely absurd with the spending, wild policies that don't help the intended, apologies to countries who have received billions in aide and interest, social polarizing, racial polarizing, open bribery, and arrogance.  I have been angry and embarrassed by our government.  With all that said........is there any one else out there who has the smarts, common sense, and experience to reign this all in and then move us back in right direction?

I also feel that emerging and global information dispersion is playing a huge role in the inability to find good candidates.  People simply don't want to open themselves up to such scrutiny.  Sara Palin was plucked out of Alaska 4 days before the Rep Convention and has had her family and character attacked without mercy.  She had to quit the Gov job in order to make enough money to defend herself from all of the lawsuits mounted against her (just because she ran for office).  Every spoken word is captured and repeated in and out of context over and over again.  The past is presented and lives are publicly unfolded.  This is the same country that had no idea Roosevelt was in a wheelchair and the Kennedy brothers were passing Marilyn back and forth.  Who wants to open themselves up to such srutiny?

[RoadKill]

THEN NEXT ELECTION DAY DON'T VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN OFFICE.  VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!!

That's a popular but very naive sentiment.

The political parties have plenty of potential candidates waiting in the system that have not yet been elected to Washington or state office.  Guess what?  they've been brought up in the same political system so they will tend to be carbon copies of what you're voting out.

Taking responsibility means being involved very early in the political process and supporting candidates that you're sure truly represent the values you can support.  

There are some good politicians.  Sadly, one who represents me has announced that he won't be seeking re-election.  Sam Brownback is an honorable and honest man who has been a breath of fresh air in national politics.  He's stepping away from the Senate because he believes in term limits.  This is a case in which term limits hurt rather than help.  I'll vote for Sam Brownback in just about any case he's up for election.

The problem is not entirely them.  It's also us.  In most cases our political electees accurately reflect the voting public.  The first step of political responsibility is being sure that we ourselves are the honorable peoplewe could trust in elected office.  We can each only take that step for one voter.

My two cents.  It's probably worth about what you paid for it.  

Willow has ,once again, hit the nail on the head. I agree 100%.
any vote against the incumbent is a vote FOR their competition. I believe that "vote them out" mentality did more to get Obama in office than A.C.O.R.N managed with their blatant fraud !

It is each and every voters DUTY to the country to learn as much as possible about the candidates and cast a well informed Vote. It is a hard task, sifting thru the media B.S. and propaganda from the likes of ACORN just to cast a vote for the lesser of the 2 evil politicians but incumbent or not...that's what you will get...A lying politician. Our job is to determine which one is going to screw it up less . Voting them all out is nothing more than closing your eyes and rolling the dice.

We can all play monday morning quarterback when it's over ... but I wouldnt trade the whole team because the Kicker missed a field goal.

[fstsix]

Don't give up! One politician at a time, 'Patience is virtue', the problem with America is we want everything NOW it is a throw away society. Sara has a plan, she knows what she is doing, that commonsense gift has helped her, you don't think she is in a better position now with her Top book seller? what happened to her was a blessing. Washington has some BIG problems on their hands after last night, and they know it!!, One must wonder if Smart, or Brave is what it takes for a guy like Brown, Seems we have plenty of SMART people, but BRAVE is what is going to take to stop this Machine, One would think these SMART A$$es in office thought they could ROLL 350 million Americans, I am thankful at this point the stroke of a pen is working. Let us not get comfortable, and keep the pressure UP on this Administration, We are not alone!! My prayers are with Scott Brown, to due the right thing. And for safety for One Man standing in Front of 2 trillion dollars!!! Tell me what you would call Brave ?

[Mickey Runie]

There are some good politicians.  Sadly, one who represents me has announced that he won't be seeking re-election.  Sam Brownback is an honorable and honest man who has been a breath of fresh air in national politics.  He's stepping away from the Senate because he believes in term limits.  This is a case in which term limits hurt rather than help.  I'll vote for Sam Brownback in just about any case he's up for election.

Carl, isn't Sam Brownback getting ready to run for the Governor's office in KS?

[Willow]

Carl, isn't Sam Brownback getting ready to run for the Governor's office in KS?

He is.  I guess I should have been more careful not to imply that he's leaving politics.  He's just leaving the Senate.

He actually had some support for the presidential race last time around, but was overwhelmed early in the process.

[czuch]

Alph;
Dictators get strung up from light poles with piano wire,
suicide in the bunker,coup'ed. Never pretty, allways effective.
 Democrats get voted out.
I see we've had about enough of the "openness and transparency" that we can take.
2010/2012/2013
Brothers, Sisters, choose your revolution.
another.02

[Romeo]

The reasoning behind voting them all out is simple. It is to send a message to the party's that we are fed up and until they start acting like they were intended, we will keep changing them. When they pass laws to stop that, well its time to lock and load.

[big d]

the whole problem with everyone finding out about each candidate and voting for the best one is that a large portion of people are way too lazy and just vote party line.

[Hotrodwing]

Sorry to see that murtha the BASTARD is from my state not my distict though. I hop him spector andcase get there asses handed to them. I also hope they tri murtha for treason.

[RoadKill]

the whole problem with everyone finding out about each candidate and voting for the best one is that a large portion of people are way too lazy and just vote party line.

Just voting them out with out checking their voting history and seeing if it is better than the new guy you are voting for,( just because they actually have a voting record) is just as lazy and IMHO worse for our country. If you vote out the old and the new turns out no better or even worse ,you have done us all a disservice.

[Willow]

the whole problem with everyone finding out about each candidate and voting for the best one is that a large portion of people are way too lazy and just vote party line.

And that, my friend, is the base problem with democracy in a modern (post modern?) media saturated world in which there are no requirements for the privilege of voting.

Don't spread that around.  If my views on democracy become too widely known it may hurt some of my friendships.

[BF]

Now, THIS is disgusting........

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[G-Man]

the whole problem with everyone finding out about each candidate and voting for the best one is that a large portion of people are way too lazy and just vote party line.

A co-worker of mine stated the he runs down the list of names and votes for those with Italian last names.  Guess where his family is originally from. 

[f6john]

What a scumbag!!

An Insult To Our Democracy

Well we won't be hearing from John anymore, he died from complications of a gall bladder surgery.

[solo1]

That's true and a Democrat representative is already making a case for NO Tort Reform.  He thinks Murtha's family should sue.

[QOTFU]

Didn't he just die today?

[Popeye]

Yes, he did die today.

[Hoser]

Didn't he just die today?

Must have been reading this thread.  hoser

[JimL]

I suspect there are a few on this forum old enough to remember the late William F. Buckley.  I always agreed with his philosophy of having to "prove that you were capable" of exercising the right to vote, even though he later quit saying it out loud due to pressure from fellow conservatives. 

Of course even if there was widespread agreement that a minimal level of intelligence and awareness of the issues should be required to exercise the right to vote, the task of reaching consensus on what would constitute "minimal level" would prove to be an impossible task in itself!

This single issue often makes me wonder how many years our society will survive due to this enormous handicap....will it be my great-grandchildren or great-great-grandchildren that grow up speaking Chinese.

[Skinhead]

I can't say I'm glad he's dead, BUT....

I'm really happy he's not in office any longer !

[Robert]

What a man sows he will reap let us hope that the investigations and allegations that surrounded this man will not tarnish his epitaph

John Murtha--best known in recent years as a onetime Iraq war supporter who abruptly switched sides--has died, CNN reports:

    Murtha of Pennsylvania, a longtime fixture on the House subcommittee that oversees Pentagon spending, died after complications from gallbladder surgery, according to his office. He was 77.

    The Democratic congressman recently underwent scheduled laparoscopic surgery at National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, to remove his gallbladder. The procedure was "routine minimally invasive surgery," but doctors "hit his intestines," a source close to the late congressman told CNN.
There is divine justice

[X Ring]

That's true and a Democrat representative is already making a case for NO Tort Reform.  He thinks Murtha's family should sue.

IIRC, it's really hard to sue military doctors.  They would have to sue the U.S. Govt and that's only if the Govt agrees to be sued.

Marty

[Oss]

Winter certainly gets interesting around here

There are many causes for our troubles.

However Pogo hit it on the head when he said
"we have met the enemy and he is us"

Long as people will vote for the person who they think makes their life easier by giving them something
for nothing and not the person who will raise the country we will continue to get what we deserve

Its gonna snow over a foot tomorrow and I just realized I didnt buy the oil to mix with
the gas for the snow blower.  Seems like some serious exercise is in my future tomorrow
Can I substitue MMO for the snowblower oil in a sears snowblower

God bless the United States of America and no I am not running for office

[Willow]

Well that's one less nasty sob we have to worry about 

In this culture we have a long standing tradition amongst civilized people.  We don't speak ill of the dead, most especially during the family's reasonable period of mourning.