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Author Topic: Interesting Super Bowl Commercial (goes political)  (Read 1875 times)
G-Man
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« on: February 08, 2010, 06:55:16 AM »

Jay Leno, Oprah Winfrey, And David Letterman on a couch together.  A commercial for Letterman's show.  Why would oprah and Leno do a spot for another, competing show, on another network???  I commented that the only thing that would have made that commercial better was if Conan O'Brien was in it.  I then commented on O'Brien walking away with $43 Million to shut up and do nothing for a couple of years.  I was then reminded by my friend that GE, owner of NBC, payor of the $43 Million, took TARP money and received billions in low interest loans.  Isn't that what the banks took?  Why is nobody up in arms about this $43 Million, but the bonuses paid to bank employees is no good? 
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 07:22:10 AM »

I think they got your attention.. You remembered it all and knew what the commercial was selling.  Isn't that what commercials are for?

Frankly, I thought it was hilarious!  Who woulda thunk those three would show up in a commercial together?
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 10:14:36 AM »

GE took TARP money? Not according to this list: http://projects.nytimes.com/creditcrisis/recipients/table

Jay Leno, Oprah Winfrey, And David Letterman on a couch together.  A commercial for Letterman's show.  Why would oprah and Leno do a spot for another, competing show, on another network???  I commented that the only thing that would have made that commercial better was if Conan O'Brien was in it.  I then commented on O'Brien walking away with $43 Million to shut up and do nothing for a couple of years.  I was then reminded by my friend that GE, owner of NBC, payor of the $43 Million, took TARP money and received billions in low interest loans.  Isn't that what the banks took?  Why is nobody up in arms about this $43 Million, but the bonuses paid to bank employees is no good? 
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 10:39:46 AM »


Obama’s hidden bailout of General Electric
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
March 4, 2009

While many companies hire lobbyists to win earmarks, General Electric’s unmatched lobbying force has secured a tax increase — or its equivalent — in President Barack Obama’s budget.

Labeled “climate revenues” and totaling $646 billion over eight years, this line item in Obama’s budget has inspired confidence in GE Chief Executive Officer Jeff Immelt. As Immelt put it in a letter this week, he believes that the Obama administration will be a profitable “financier” and “key partner.”

On page 115 of Obama’s fiscal 2010 budget is Table S-2, titled “Effect of Budget Proposals on Projected Deficits.” The chart forecasts the costs of Obama’s spending proposals and the added revenue of his proposed tax increases. It also forecasts, beginning in 2012, billions of dollars a year in “climate revenues.” This budget line, which has struck fear into some lawmakers from coal-dependent states, could spell salvation for GE in these times of uncertainty.

How can Obama generate “climate revenues”? By forcing companies to pay for the right to emit greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.

A tax on greenhouse gas emissions could accomplish this, but Obama’s preferred policy — and the approach embraced by a few congressional bills in recent years — is called “cap and trade.” In short, cap and trade requires businesses to spend “credits” to pay for their emissions. Businesses can buy or sell these credits, and the market — not the government — would directly set the price of a credit. Government would initially auction them off, generating revenue.

GE — a member of the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, which advocates cap and trade — leads the push for greenhouse gas restrictions.

In the fourth quarter of 2008 as the company’s stock fell 30 percent, GE spent $4.26 million on lobbying — that’s $46,304 each day, including weekends, Thanksgiving and Christmas. In 2008, the company spent a grand total of $18.66 million on lobbying.

Reviewing their lobbying filings, you might think you were looking at Al Gore’s agenda. GE’s specific lobbying issues included the “Climate Stewardship Act,” “Electric Utility Cap and Trade Act,” “Global Warming Reduction Act,” “Federal Government Greenhouse Gas Registry Act,” “Low Carbon Economy Act,” and “Lieberman-Warner Climate Security Act.”

This isn’t altruism or public relations. GE has started a joint venture called Greenhouse Gas Services, which invests in — and hopes to manage the trade in — greenhouse gas credits. But these investments and this trading floor are of basically no use and nearly no value without government restrictions on greenhouse gases.

Hence the lobbying, buttressed by generous campaign contributions: Employees and executives gave $1.35 million to politicians in the past election while GE’s political action committee shelled out $1.55 million. About 64 percent of this $2.9 million went to Democrats, with Obama easily the top recipient of GE money.

Obama’s budget includes the payoff, promising to start a multibillion-dollar greenhouse gas industry by 2012. In a letter this week, GE’S Immelt told shareholders that current events present an “opportunity of a lifetime,” because “capitalism will be ‘reset.’ ”

Immelt wrote: “The interaction between government and business will change forever. In a reset economy, the government will be a regulator; and also an industry policy champion, a financier, and a key partner.”

In short, GE plans to get rich by being one of the government’s closest partners — which it has always been, thanks to its unmatched lobbying efforts.

The environmentalist at this point might respond, “Well, good for GE. if they can get rich while helping the planet, more power to them.” But this ignores important issues. First, restraining greenhouse gas emissions will cost Americans dearly. Gas, electricity and heating prices will all go up. The prices of manufactured and shipped goods will go up. A Clemson University report on similar cap-and-trade proposals forecast a 1 percent decline in he U.S. gross domestic product by 2015 if they were implemented.

There are environmental costs, also, to such a focus on greenhouse gases: Ethanol’s damage to water supplies, soil health and air quality are the fruit of government pushing the product as a climate-friendly fuel.

When the lobbying fingerprints of GE and other well-connected firms are considered, it’s not hard to conclude that the policy that will finally emerge won’t be the one that is best for the planet and least bad for the economy, but the one that is best for General Electric

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Obamas-hidden-bailout-of-General-Electric_03_04-40686707.html#ixzz0eyGi570a
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 10:53:08 AM »

If it wasnt doritos or go daddy I didnt pay attention

Sorry cooldude

at least it was nice riding over to your place yesterday G-man
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 11:33:17 AM »


Obama’s hidden bailout of General Electric
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
March 4, 2009



And how is this different from all the other lobbyists spending untold millions of dollars to get legislation that is favorable to their clients? I'm thinking the oil industry, the auto industry, telecommunications, defense contractors ... the list is quite long and diverse. I'm sure that there has been these types of shenanigans going on by several of our past presidents ... republican and democrat. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with an industry trying to get favorable legislation passed but exactly who is the lobbyists for us, the citizens, and why are they so silent? Oh wait, that is supposed to be our Congressmen & Senators. I guess they are just too busy talking to lobbyist to worry about us.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 12:15:17 PM »

GE took TARP money? Not according to this list: http://projects.nytimes.com/creditcrisis/recipients/table

Jay Leno, Oprah Winfrey, And David Letterman on a couch together.  A commercial for Letterman's show.  Why would oprah and Leno do a spot for another, competing show, on another network???  I commented that the only thing that would have made that commercial better was if Conan O'Brien was in it.  I then commented on O'Brien walking away with $43 Million to shut up and do nothing for a couple of years.  I was then reminded by my friend that GE, owner of NBC, payor of the $43 Million, took TARP money and received billions in low interest loans.  Isn't that what the banks took?  Why is nobody up in arms about this $43 Million, but the bonuses paid to bank employees is no good? 



All I did was enter  "GE TARP" into Google and returned too many links to pages to even begin to cut and paste here.  All indicate GE was a major recipient.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 12:15:48 PM »

I think they got your attention.. You remembered it all and knew what the commercial was selling.  Isn't that what commercials are for?

Frankly, I thought it was hilarious!  Who woulda thunk those three would show up in a commercial together?

You are so very right!
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 12:35:11 PM »


Obama’s hidden bailout of General Electric
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
March 4, 2009



And how is this different from all the other lobbyists spending untold millions of dollars to get legislation that is favorable to their clients? I'm thinking the oil industry, the auto industry, telecommunications, defense contractors ... the list is quite long and diverse. I'm sure that there has been these types of shenanigans going on by several of our past presidents ... republican and democrat. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with an industry trying to get favorable legislation passed but exactly who is the lobbyists for us, the citizens, and why are they so silent? Oh wait, that is supposed to be our Congressmen & Senators. I guess they are just too busy talking to lobbyist to worry about us.

Remember everyone. A lobbyist for a company represents that companies interests. That company is made up of people, exactly like you and me, except they participate in the system.
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 01:58:03 PM »


Obama’s hidden bailout of General Electric
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
March 4, 2009



And how is this different from all the other lobbyists spending untold millions of dollars to get legislation that is favorable to their clients? I'm thinking the oil industry, the auto industry, telecommunications, defense contractors ... the list is quite long and diverse. I'm sure that there has been these types of shenanigans going on by several of our past presidents ... republican and democrat. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with an industry trying to get favorable legislation passed but exactly who is the lobbyists for us, the citizens, and why are they so silent? Oh wait, that is supposed to be our Congressmen & Senators. I guess they are just too busy talking to lobbyist to worry about us.

how is i different? GE holds the (Bullhorn) the Mainstream Media, also Cap $ Crap aint gonna be pretty if it were to pass, i agree we all need to come to the center and vote these fools out. GE has a slobering love affair with the President, i am sure those Windmills that will produce what? 1/10 of the energy will be from GE. not counting their Jet engines that GE wants Gov contracts to build, if all the other Lobbyist could just own each TV station it be more fun to watch TV News again. But your right i hope that The (Mass Miracle) will continue and roll them over, like they have us in these upcoming elections.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 04:58:25 PM »


Obama’s hidden bailout of General Electric
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
March 4, 2009



And how is this different from all the other lobbyists spending untold millions of dollars to get legislation that is favorable to their clients? I'm thinking the oil industry, the auto industry, telecommunications, defense contractors ... the list is quite long and diverse. I'm sure that there has been these types of shenanigans going on by several of our past presidents ... republican and democrat. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with an industry trying to get favorable legislation passed but exactly who is the lobbyists for us, the citizens, and why are they so silent? Oh wait, that is supposed to be our Congressmen & Senators. I guess they are just too busy talking to lobbyist to worry about us.

Remember everyone. A lobbyist for a company represents that companies interests. That company is made up of people, exactly like you and me, except they participate in the system.

Well yes & no ... the only people that count are the stock holders ... especially those that hold enough stock to make their voice heard (CEO, Board of Directors, various institutions and various funds). The ones working on the line, in the ditch, behind the counter or in the truck they will terminate without blinking an eye. Unless you own the company .... that's just the way it is .... nothing wrong with it but just the way it is. So in the end ... the company's interest and the interest of the guy on the line aren't necessarily the same.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 05:06:31 PM »


Obama’s hidden bailout of General Electric
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
March 4, 2009



And how is this different from all the other lobbyists spending untold millions of dollars to get legislation that is favorable to their clients? I'm thinking the oil industry, the auto industry, telecommunications, defense contractors ... the list is quite long and diverse. I'm sure that there has been these types of shenanigans going on by several of our past presidents ... republican and democrat. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with an industry trying to get favorable legislation passed but exactly who is the lobbyists for us, the citizens, and why are they so silent? Oh wait, that is supposed to be our Congressmen & Senators. I guess they are just too busy talking to lobbyist to worry about us.

how is i different? GE holds the (Bullhorn) the Mainstream Media, also Cap $ Crap aint gonna be pretty if it were to pass, i agree we all need to come to the center and vote these fools out. GE has a slobering love affair with the President, i am sure those Windmills that will produce what? 1/10 of the energy will be from GE. not counting their Jet engines that GE wants Gov contracts to build, if all the other Lobbyist could just own each TV station it be more fun to watch TV News again. But your right i hope that The (Mass Miracle) will continue and roll them over, like they have us in these upcoming elections.

Well thanks to the Supreme Court, GE no longer really needs lobyists. All they need to do now is run ads for, or against, whichever canidate doesn't vote the way GE wants. As for the Mass Miracle, do you really think Brown would have won if a Kennedy ran? Personaly, I'm not holding my breath waiting on any big restructure in the House or Senate.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 09:28:09 PM »

just got home from work, that is interesting do i think if their was a Kennedy running Scott Brown would have had a chance, well 24 months ago i would have agreed, But living up here in the North east for about 18 years, the locals after watching Patrick K here in RI have had enough of their dynasty, They where tired of living under their Royalty if you will, We in NE are ready for change and i have said this before when Mr O called the Boston Police stupid he was all done, people up here dont shot first and ask questions later, they will quietly take care of business. do i think this will change the machine in the house, no not just Brown, The stock market is going to be something to watch in these next days months, this will set the tone more than anything to this present administration to collapse, we need to have conservatives with true values put back in office unlike Spector who is just a phony and jumps party lines, for his own gain, Maybe the revolution has started and Mass has fired the first shot.   
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 07:51:19 AM »

Life is getting better! cooldude WASHINGTON (AP) - With Rep. Patrick Kennedy's decision not to seek re-election, Washington will be left without a Kennedy in political office for the first time in more than 60 years.

The Rhode Island Democrat's term ends early next year but he says his life is "taking a new direction" and he will not seek a ninth term in Congress. The 42-year-old Kennedy is the son of the late Sen. Edward Kennedy. The congressman plans to air his announcement of his decision on Rhode Island television stations Sunday.

The Associated Press viewed the message Thursday. Kennedy does not give a reason for the decision but says it has been a difficult few years for many people and mentions his father's passing.
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