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Jersey mike
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« on: August 15, 2024, 05:43:45 AM »

If anyone may recall while my father-in-law was here with us I talked about his sometimes violent behavior, it wasn’t pretty. He changed from a man who’d never put his hands on a woman to threatening his daughter (my wife) to pinning her up against the front door by her upper chest/throat area.

A couple years before she passed, my mother-in-law would sometimes complain he would have sudden outbursts of anger or rage which unfortunately we did not look into deeply and I don’t believe my wife disclosed to doctors at the time at checkup time. Looking back we see now that was a huge mistake.

While he was here living with us, we enrolled him at an adult daycare facility and he displayed anger issue there as well, from making a scene by shouting, kicking the glass doors saying let me out to actually hitting another patient at one time, something they described as an audio hallucination.

We tried many medications to help keep him calm but there was a heart issue where doctors were concerned about too much sedatives and in private care facilities the use of chemical restraints is not allowed. Our/his doctor did prescribe a heavy sedative called Haldol but continued use turned him into a non functioning person.

When things got too far out of our control and we needed professional help from a full time care provider, they informed us yes they could use it but unfortunately they rarely did. His transition into the care facility was often very difficult and my wife and I were called into discuss his aggressive and sometimes physical behavior. We would ask why aren’t you using the Haldol and their reply was often a this or that reason.

One thing that Barbara and I would discuss often would be what’s going through his head? How scared must he be not knowing who we are or where he is and why he’s living here with us no matter how comfortable a setting we made the house.

Below is an article discussing such problems and I hope some of you will read it snd put this info in your back pocket for future reference should it ever involve anyone you may know who may have to deal with this horrible situation and disease.

FYI; it’s not a short article.

“ ‘Scared to death’: Nurses and residents confront rampant violence in dementia care facilities”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/scared-death-nurses-residents-confront-100005446.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2024, 06:06:04 AM »

Man, that is rough, Mike!
Scary too, makes me wonder what’s in store for me because my brain has been playing tricks on me since the motorcycle wreck 1 year ago…
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2024, 07:39:24 AM »

I used to worry about cancer as I had grown older.  That worry is now second or third.  Alzheimer's is more of worry as I am a rather tall and strong person with 30 years of study/participating in Martial Arts.  I do have a temper which I have kept in check with a lot of effort.   Not sure i what would happen if I lost my ability to control myself. 

I have watch others go thru the period of getting old and losing control.  It is scary.  In my younger years, I wouldn't have wanted to be in a place that houses folks who are going thru the Alzheimer/Dementia period of their lives.  I do thank and appreciate what those in help in these places do.   
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2024, 12:21:42 PM »

Hey guys,

Dad passed in November of ‘21 at his in care facility. It was very emotional but we knew his torture was over. As I said it is unimaginable (to us at least) the fear on a daily basis he must have been living with.

As Barb and I get older, we’ve been talking about how we plan on dealing with this for ourselves but have not come up with any real solutions. Neither of us want each other in a facility, we swore to care for one another through good and bad, thick or thin but knkw the reality of the disease now but it effects everyone who gets it differently. Our neighbors mother was as gentle as a newborn lamb while she declined.

It’s a crazy disease. We continue to read on it and try to eat and follow whatever other guidelines we can to hopefully help out not only ourselves but the kids too.

Best to all.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2024, 12:29:00 PM »

I have a retired neighbor friend who takes care of his aging seriously Alzheimer's afflicted wife.

He can't stand the idea of institutionalization (we didn't talk cost).  It's a pretty full time job.

He's told me she can get violent, not often.

If I lost my mind and memory, I'd be pretty pissed off too.

I get pretty pissed off just forgetting where I put things (days ago; all short-term memory stuff)

I don't have Alzheimers, but believe I've come to an age where my memory banks are all pretty full, and adding new (all mundane, not important) stuff can be a problem (occasionally).  
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2024, 07:47:17 AM »

my mom had alzheimers for 10 years or tad more, last 6 years or so before passing last year had to take her out of home she was seeing people attack her and not eating well at home.  In and out of 4 assisted living homes was tough, but by then she lost her mind 6 years or so ago that she did not know who we were and not know much mind of a 2-3 year old.  She for 10+ years was on sertraline and risperidone.  NOT 100 percent sure, but both needed for both hallucinations and calming affect.  The last 6 months I went to dr. with her decided she NOT need the tiniest mg pill of risperdone since she was sleeping 75% of her time put her on hospice as well.  big mistake, she got VIOLENT taking away that miscroscopic pill 1st time in her life throwing stuff at dinner, not her at all.  few days later put her right back on that pill.

goes to show  how the tiniest of pills on or off can affect mood and violence of people having to live with this horrible disease.  I not wish it upon anyone or their families to experience was a tough go last 6 years for sure. Cry

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2024, 08:03:25 AM »

Knock on wood - my MIL only gets violent at her memory care unit when they place hands on her, like to get her to take a shower, etc. The main reason we finally had to put her there was " take me home" - even though we were in her house that she had lived in for the last 40 years.

It's horrible what dementia does to a person.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2024, 02:11:20 PM »


It's horrible what dementia does to a person.

totally agree not only on the person, but their families/friends to see a parent who took care of you for 20 years now depends on you 100% for their well being the last 5-10 years of their lives. 

I told the wife if I ever get that way since am sure I will go first,  just bury me somewhere so as to not go thru the burden for her to tend to my every need.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2024, 02:41:26 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2024, 05:13:57 PM »

Knock on wood - my MIL only gets violent at her memory care unit when they place hands on her, like to get her to take a shower, etc. The main reason we finally had to put her there was " take me home" - even though we were in her house that she had lived in for the last 40 years.

It's horrible what dementia does to a person.

There were many battles…every third day…almost fist fights about showering. We read over time it can be associated with fear of the shower.

On the other hand he loved being shaved, I’d use an electric razor and he’d almost fall asleep in the chair. At hair cut time, we would take him to his hometown barber, she was great and pretty too. Dad would put up a fuss but when she came over and talked to him she’d say just come over, sit in the chair and talk to me. She’d start combing his hair, then get the cover on him, and continue combing and slowly cutting. Everything was a process.
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