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« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2024, 07:27:44 AM »

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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2024, 07:34:34 AM »


Followed the link and read the "information" provided.   Just not seeing how this ties into the reported UFOs.

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“While looking at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Alerts. I can confirm that there is radioactive material that has gone missing on Dec 2nd, 2024 out of New Jersey. This might be the reason for the drones… just speculation at this point,” he wrote.

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« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2024, 07:45:03 AM »


Followed the link and read the "information" provided.   Just not seeing how this ties into the reported UFOs.

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“While looking at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Alerts. I can confirm that there is radioactive material that has gone missing on Dec 2nd, 2024 out of New Jersey. This might be the reason for the drones… just speculation at this point,” he wrote.

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The theory is that there's either missing nuclear material, I've also seen it being a missing nuclear warhead from Ukraine and other angles and that "they" think it's being shipped into the USA via New Jersey ports, and using nuclear/radiation detecting drones to sweep the area to look for any abnormal radiation signatures.

Not buying it (If that were the case, why do the drones stop flying at 11PM, and only fly at night for that matter? If it was a missing nuke I'd think they'd be flying those radiation detecting drones 24/7) but that's the theory...
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« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2024, 07:50:46 AM »


Followed the link and read the "information" provided.   Just not seeing how this ties into the reported UFOs.

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“While looking at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Alerts. I can confirm that there is radioactive material that has gone missing on Dec 2nd, 2024 out of New Jersey. This might be the reason for the drones… just speculation at this point,” he wrote.

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The theory is that there's either missing nuclear material, I've also seen it being a missing nuclear warhead from Ukraine and other angles and that "they" think it's being shipped into the USA via New Jersey ports, and using nuclear/radiation detecting drones to sweep the area to look for any abnormal radiation signatures.

Not buying it (If that were the case, why do the drones stop flying at 11PM, and only fly at night for that matter? If it was a missing nuke I'd think they'd be flying those radiation detecting drones 24/7) but that's the theory...


All about getting more hits to the website and readers IMO.

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« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2024, 10:52:00 AM »

Edited:   We build an airport well away from cities and sure enough homes and businesses follow to the same areas.  Then folks want to gripe about the aviation activities flying over their homes.   Never fails to amaze me.

Ron, the same exact thing has happened with many of our USAF Air bases.

We build them out in the boonies (for good reason, USAF aircraft are generally way louder than civilian, and we don't want civilian air traffic around these bases), people then move in close-by and file formal FAA complaints (or even law suits) about the noise or inconvenience.

In the legal field, this is called.... MOVING TO THE NUISANCE.  (You knew or should have known what was there when you moved in, so you caused your own harm.  So live with it, or move again somewhere else.)

I knew Regan National, Davison Army Airfield, and Andrews AFB were all close to my house when I bought it.  The Army choppers make the most noise, but flights are relatively few.  Regan National is all day and night every day, but quieter (but hardly silent).  Even if the house is all buttoned up tight and no TV/radio/noise is on inside, I can hear most of them (because they are all dropping down from altitude into approach with the speed brakes on - called "all dirtied up".)  You get used to it.  Filing a complaint or lawsuit would be laughable (especially to the judge).  
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« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2024, 11:04:32 AM »


The theory is that there's either missing nuclear material, I've also seen it being a missing nuclear warhead from Ukraine and other angles and that "they" think it's being shipped into the USA via New Jersey ports, and using nuclear/radiation detecting drones to sweep the area to look for any abnormal radiation signatures.

Not buying it (If that were the case, why do the drones stop flying at 11PM, and only fly at night for that matter? If it was a missing nuke I'd think they'd be flying those radiation detecting drones 24/7) but that's the theory...


Wonder what king of "nuclear material" (assuming the information is correct)?  

There is only one type of nuclear related radiation that can be "sensed" from a distance.  And that is gamma ray radiation.  

Alpha (2HE4) is easily blocked by almost anything.  
Beta (aka electrons) can be effectively shielded by plastic or thin aluminum.
Gamma radiation, takes a lot more (comparatively)

When you talk radiation you usually talk in "tenth" thickness (the thickness required to reduce radiation to 1/10 of original).  However the chart I found talks about "half-thickness".  That is the amount of "stuff" needed to reduce the radiation by 1/2.  

It works like this. So, if the half thickness for a gamma ray is 0.4 inches using lead. Then if you put up a 0.4 inch think barrier the radiation will be reduced by 1/2  (say it was 1 REM then it would be 0.5 Rem).  

One more 0.4 inch think barrier and it would then be .25 REM.  One more and it would be .125 REM.  One more and it would be ....... you get the idea.  

So, the only radiation (I have ignored neutrons since they are neutral) you can detect from a distance of 400 or 500 feet would be gamma radiation.  But you could drive around the area and do the same thing, why fly?????

A bunch of other stuff is worthy of note.  If the device was nuclear and shielded, the crash would have to have destroyed or damaged the shield.  If that happened, the nuclear material could be in the atmosphere and water and well, everywhere.  

Would not the public need to be warned???????

Nope, I think that is hype.  But what the heck to do I know.

The link about radiation and stuff and 1/2 thickness.  

https://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/nuclear-radiation-shielding-protection/
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« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2024, 11:07:28 AM »

Edited:   We build an airport well away from cities and sure enough homes and businesses follow to the same areas.  Then folks want to gripe about the aviation activities flying over their homes.   Never fails to amaze me.

Ron, the same exact thing has happened with many of our USAF Air bases.


Well aware of this, same things happen at Army Forts/bases.   When I was at Ft. Sill, OK (the Army Artillery Center) there were always complaints about the explosions in the impact area.   Roll Eyes
Similar situation.

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« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2024, 11:13:39 AM »



Would not the public need to be warned???????

Nope, I think that is hype.  But what the heck to do I know.


So, do I need to add or reduce the tin foil in my helmet?  Wink

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« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2024, 12:32:51 PM »

Don’t know about ALL the drones but since drones are required to be registered with FAA, & planes must have a flight plan… time to shoot down the unidentified craft insistent on zooming military installations in restricted air space.
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« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2024, 04:22:47 PM »

WDBJ7 received reports and messages from people saying they saw them Roanoke, Pulaski, Radford, Salem, Vinton, Floyd, Danville and Fincastle.

If they  come around , my area  they will be  shot down most likely LOL


There's No Way that one of those things was flying around Floyd County without getting shot down!  Evil Evil Evil Evil
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« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2024, 05:26:35 AM »

There's No Way that one of those things was flying around Floyd County without getting shot down!  Evil Evil Evil Evil

My only advice about shooting down perceived drones would be to first, know for sure what's being targeted is in fact a drone and secondly, once that drone hits the ground, bury it in your least favorite neighbor's or politician's yard.   Getting caught shooting a drone down is against the law, shooting at a piloted aircraft will get one an opportunity to spend time at a federal facility.

Up to this point, I've yet to hear of even one law/FAA Regulation that's being broken by these UFOs.   In that the vast majority of these sitings are being reported on the normal departure and approach flight paths from airports, I have real doubts that these are truly drones but piloted aircraft taking off or landing.

Remember, a single set of lights in the sky is most likely being reported by a bunch of people who have now gotten significant attention and have a lot of other folks looking skyward.   That single UFO has the potential to be the reason for hundreds if not thousands of reported UFOs.   The fact that the majority of these reported sitings are on the departure and approach paths of piloted aircraft makes the reports of drones even less believable IMO.

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« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2024, 07:33:33 AM »

FAA Regulations for Recreational Drone Use

Recreational drones are those flown purely for personal enjoyment. The FAA doesn't require a pilot certification for those who fly drones for recreational purposes, and it exempts such use from the Part 107 rules. But the operator must still follow certain safety rules and obey state and local laws (discussed below).

FAA rules for recreational drone use include:

keeping the drone within the operator's visual line of sight

flying the drone at or below 400 feet in uncontrolled airspace, and

staying out of restricted airspaces (such as over wildfires, emergency response crews, public events,                  stadiums, and public infrastructure).


The FAA has an app called B4UFLY to assist operators in determining where they can fly their drones. (49 U.S.C. § 44809 (2022).)

Local laws

Local Ordinances and Zoning Restrictions on Drone Use

Many local governments restrict drone use at events in private or public spaces or over public property. There may also be filming restrictions or permit requirements. A local government can also designate areas as "No Drone Zones," which restrict drone take off and landings in the designated areas. You can also run afoul of nuisance and trespassing laws. It's important to check your city, county, or municipalities rules.

Just some of the rules from the link below that have been violated by these devices. 

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/when-a-drone-flies-over-my-house-is-it-trespassing.html
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« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2024, 08:21:01 AM »

Shooting down a drone -

There is a reason fighter aircraft are equipped with missiles and machine guns to down another flying object.  A single round through an airplane or drone is not likely to bring it down.

Rounds fired upward are being pulled directly against their flow by gravity resulting in a much lower range distance and speed. 

Upon reaching max distance and returning to ground the bullet regains speed and potential for damage as it impact something on the Earth.

A drone will have to be very low and slow to offer you much potential for shooting it down.  Perhaps the best opportunity is the use of a shotgun with double aught shells for a drone at 200 feet directly overhead.  Remember those projectiles will still come back down, if straight up back on the shooter.

Not a particularly good idea.
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« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2024, 01:01:02 PM »

I did read last night (I think it was last night) that a couple of airports did have to shut down due to drone traffic.  I have to assume that this traffic was from recreational flyers.   Any commercial operator would not want to take such a risk.  Just my opinion.  Therefore, there have been some laws/FAA regs broken. Proving who was operating those drones could be tough to do.  But, if the operator(s) get caught for flying in restricted airspace, they should be looking at a vacation of sorts with room and board supplied by the government. Wink

Regardles of the above, the folks observing these lighted UFOs have yet (to my knowledge) had any harm done in public areas other than those same folks being annoyed.   Honestly, I'm leaning to Attention Deficient Syndrome.  Wink

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« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2024, 01:32:51 PM »

Reason for the drone sightings has been found...

Something happens...

The people cry out "The government should Do Something!"

And ah-ha! The government "Does Something"

Which usually involves more snooping into our lives and loss of freedoms...

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« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2024, 01:39:31 PM »

Reason for the drone sightings has been found...

Something happens...

The people cry out "The government should Do Something!"

And ah-ha! The government "Does Something"

Which usually involves more snooping into our lives and loss of freedoms...

Those "Unintended Consequences" will always bite us in the ass.

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« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2024, 03:46:56 PM »

There might be something to many of the sightings being due to mass hysteria.

As I was leaving the grocery store this evening a college aged girl pointed to a star in the sky and insisted to her companions that it was "one of them drones".

I thought at first she might be joking but then I realized that she was serious.

I just walked away shaking my head.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2024, 03:50:49 PM »

They're getting closer to the actual cause.



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« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2024, 06:13:16 PM »

Woman Zooms In On Orb, Speaks To It, and Orb Responds, When She Says ... "Jesus Loves Me"

The response is in the video and it appears real.

https://rumble.com/v60cpbq-woman-zooms-in-on-orb-speaks-to-it-and-orb-responds-when-she-says-...-jesus.html?e9s=src_v1_upp
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« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2024, 07:54:49 AM »

Woman Zooms In On Orb, Speaks To It, and Orb Responds, When She Says ... "Jesus Loves Me"

The response is in the video and it appears real.

https://rumble.com/v60cpbq-woman-zooms-in-on-orb-speaks-to-it-and-orb-responds-when-she-says-...-jesus.html?e9s=src_v1_upp

Not even going to try and explain such a phenomenon but reminded me of the Twilight Zone.   

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« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2024, 07:13:08 AM »

A picture of two men holding shotguns with a downed drone between them showed up on Facebook. 

I did not know there was a specific "load" for drones.  But a simple search returned several websites, including this one. 

I don't think its a hoax but.........

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« Reply #61 on: December 19, 2024, 07:52:20 AM »

I'm pretty sure depleted uranium rounds aren't available to the general public... (And wouldn't really be a good choice for drones anyway...)

https://www.luckygunner.com/12ga-3-uranium-drone-load-tacnition-5-rounds

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« Reply #62 on: December 19, 2024, 08:02:59 AM »

If they don’t want to use lasers, I’m suggesting that they develop an anti-drone drone. That could be fun

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« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2024, 08:48:14 AM »

I'm pretty sure depleted uranium rounds aren't available to the general public... (And wouldn't really be a good choice for drones anyway...)

https://www.luckygunner.com/12ga-3-uranium-drone-load-tacnition-5-rounds

Under Questions and Answers:

"A: The Tacnition drone loads are an April Fool's Joke. If you click "add to cart", you'll get a message letting you in the joke! Sorry, hope you had fun with it!"


I wondered about that.  So, I look it up via DuckDuckGo, before I posted it.

Some responses below:

https://www.lesslethal.com/products/12-gauge/als12skymi-5-detail

https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/swedish_norma_finds_the_best_shotgun_round_against_fpv_drones_which_they_chose_and_another_key_factor-12760.html

https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-air-force-orders-anti-drone-net-filled-shotgun-shells


https://duckduckgo.com/?q=civilian+anti+drone+weapons&t=h_&ia=web

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« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2024, 07:59:51 PM »

My thoughts are that if the owners of these large drone were not up to sinister doings they would come forward and say " ok...the drones are ours and here is why we are flying at night over cities and military locations"....they are up to no good....
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« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2024, 08:20:27 PM »

My thoughts are that if the owners of these large drone were not up to sinister doings they would come forward and say " ok...the drones are ours and here is why we are flying at night over cities and military locations"....they are up to no good....

Understood.  I guess my bewilderment is because, the vast majority of people thought the development of drone technology was such a great thing.    Now, those same folks appear to be fearing for the privacy/safety.  It really doesn't matter what step forward is taken in technology, it can always be turned into something we will fear.

I stated publicly long ago that drone development would lead to weaponization and this was done, real time video surveillance was easily then next step.   IOWs, be careful what you wish for, it might come to fruition.  

Reference the original topic, I have still not heard of or seen one instance of damage or harm that may be blamed on a drone.   Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big drone fan.

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