mello dude
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« on: August 24, 2025, 12:32:54 PM » |
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Dont wanna start a usual technical, why and how mines better than yours discussion on oils. But just interested and for curiousity of what guys are using. Its just to score it, nothing else. If you want to add a product let me know. I'll add as we go, plz come back and click your selection. Thanks all! 
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2025, 12:42:41 PM » |
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Mobil One 10-40 extended mileage, Walmart $25 for 5 qt...
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2025, 12:52:29 PM » |
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Mobile One V-Twin 20-50
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2025, 04:30:37 PM » |
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any Diesel oil that meets Ford specification WSS-M2C171-F1, which requires zinc and phosphorus levels above 1000ppm. many newer oils have less, even JASO requires less than 1000ppm. engine was designed pre-'88 and first built in '87 requiring SE or SF oil. SF-SL 1000 - 1400 zinc SC-SE 1000 - 1200 zinc https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/what-zinc-limits-levels-for-sm-sj-sh-sg-sf-etc.73571/http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,65911.0.html why only a heavy duty diesel oil should be used « on: March 25, 2014, 07:32:47 AM » Reply with quoteQuote Modify messageModify Remove messageRemove http://www.lngpublishing.com/LNGmagazine/index.cfmthis months issue http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/e9f4b3fd#/e9f4b3fd/1see article Two-wheelers love oil too! JASO spec'd motorcycle oil are basically the same specs as heavy-duty diesel oil standards. JASO does not test oils, manufactures pay a fee to JASO and state their oil meets the specs. see article, another grade for the heavy-duty upgrade?
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mello dude
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2025, 12:03:56 PM » |
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This is going good! Keep 'em coming. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2025, 12:40:26 PM » |
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I put Amsoil bike 10/40 in my bikes once and it was the quietest they ever ran (by far).
But the cost is ridiculous, and I've had no trouble with other good synthetic (Mobile 1, which isn't cheap either, but not ridiculous. )
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2025, 12:56:40 PM » |
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I have used a few different ones including auto and motorcycle oil. I have not noticed any big difference in any of them. I am currently using Castrol Power 1 10w40. my plan is to stick with it, or maybe use it in the 10w50 formula.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2025, 01:43:22 PM » |
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Mobil 1 15/50. 107000 and counting.
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2025, 01:48:54 PM » |
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T4 almost all the time. Mobil 1 a few times. Purolator PB or PBL 14610 every time.
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mello dude
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2025, 02:42:14 PM » |
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As mentioned before, I will add more as guys post up oils not on the list....and also after adding to the list, plz come back and click your choice. Kinda interesting as we go... 
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2025, 06:36:52 PM » |
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T4 almost all the time. Mobil 1 a few times. Purolator PB or PBL 14610 every time.
Hi -- Is that Rotella T4 and what grade? thxz
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2025, 07:06:04 AM » |
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Used Rotella T6 until formula change. Next was Valvoline 4T dino and it brokedown @ 3,000 mi. Mobil1 10w-40 with 7500 mi. change from here on out as the 5,000 mi. change was still very clear looking. Mobil1 Extended range, isn't it oil for cars? Mobil1 for MC's is about $44 for 4 qts. not $28 bucks for 5 qts. like for our AWD Suzuki car with almost 180,000 mi. and still going strong. I use dino in the GMC as came to me almost 50,000 mi. and no history of oil changes etc. It was a commercial vehicle so I'm sure dino was used. Used T6 for many a year but Chubby didn't like it whatsoever. Noisier tranny noise and not as smooth shifting. Changed out within 100 mi.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2025, 07:59:27 AM » |
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T4 almost all the time. Mobil 1 a few times. Purolator PB or PBL 14610 every time.
Hi -- Is that Rotella T4 and what grade? thxz Yes, 15w-40.  I change oil at 5,000 miles and service the final drive at 10,000 miles.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2025, 09:09:07 AM » |
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Motul SV 300 10-40 Synth
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2025, 10:43:41 PM » |
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Motul 7100 10W-40
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2025, 02:15:38 AM » |
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2025, 08:36:18 AM » |
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I'm surprised at the variety of motor oils we use. If you look at the shelves in Walmart or an auto parts store just a few brands dominate, so I didn't think we'd be using so many.
I used to use Mobil 1 15W-50 automotive in both Valkyries but recently switched to Rotella T4 15W-40 conventional oil. It was just out of curiosity as the difference in price per quart is only about a buck. Used oil analysis showed similar wear metal levels for both so I don't know if I'll switch back or not. I'm still using the Mobil 1 in my GL1800 (F6B).
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2025, 05:32:02 AM » |
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someone mentioned rotella T6 5w-40 the formula components of the oil said changed so no longer using it. How, when, or what did they change since been using that ever since Amsoil got so expensive over a decade ago.
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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2025, 06:55:03 AM » |
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As I'm the only one here thats posted that has had an issue with post 17' T6 formula. Used it w/o issue in the 00' ZR7 and the 06' VT1100 for 6 yrs. A fellow HSN member had issue in his ST1300 also. Now the dino Rotella might work better but I already committed to using synthetic thus Mobil1 put everything back in order after a slight oil quest with Valvoline dino. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2025, 09:13:36 AM » |
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Kinda interested in the T6 formula change thing... was that 5W-40 only? or 15W-40 too? And when was it? This survey is going really good! Very cool!  Most listed as a zero its really a 1.....from someone that posted in the thread...
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2025, 05:12:18 PM » |
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I'm surprised at the variety of motor oils we use. If you look at the shelves in Walmart or an auto parts store just a few brands dominate, so I didn't think we'd be using so many.
I used to use Mobil 1 15W-50 automotive in both Valkyries but recently switched to Rotella T4 15W-40 conventional oil. It was just out of curiosity as the difference in price per quart is only about a buck. Used oil analysis showed similar wear metal levels for both so I don't know if I'll switch back or not. I'm still using the Mobil 1 in my GL1800 (F6B).
T4 is semi-synthetic. It's a blend of synthetic and conventional. 
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2025, 04:47:05 AM » |
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Kinda interested in the T6 formula change thing... was that 5W-40 only? or 15W-40 too? And when was it? This survey is going really good! Very cool!  Most listed as a zero its really a 1.....from someone that posted in the thread... EPA changed the rules on all diesel oil's in 2017'. Ford raised quite stink about it.
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2025, 05:42:52 AM » |
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Kinda interested in the T6 formula change thing... was that 5W-40 only? or 15W-40 too? And when was it? This survey is going really good! Very cool!  Most listed as a zero its really a 1.....from someone that posted in the thread... EPA changed the rules on all diesel oil's in 2017'. Ford raised quite stink about it. that's why I've been posting about that all of this time and why only use an oil that meets the Ford spec. it seems too many people have me blocked and/or ignore my posts. post the ford spec in this thread
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2025, 02:25:42 PM » |
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Pretty sure that T4 is conventional, T5 is a con. syn. blend, and T6 is a full syn.
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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2025, 01:23:21 PM » |
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Pretty sure that T4 is conventional, T5 is a con. syn. blend, and T6 is a full syn.
It was. I looked it up and in 2021 Shell changed the formula and now it's a blend.
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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2025, 01:35:58 PM » |
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As i mentioned earlier I recently switched from Mobil 1 15W-50 to Rotella T4 15W-40. I had the oil analyzed for both. Wear metals were the same, but they use different anti-wear packages. Mobil 1 has more moly and magnesium while Rotella has more boron and calcium. In my Valk it made no difference. 
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2025, 05:56:18 PM » |
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I hate going here.... but on T6 .... what is the change? Per survey, it doesnt seem to concern many of us.
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I hate going here.... but on T6 .... what is the change? Per survey, it doesnt seem to concern many of us.
Yeah idk, I've been using T6 in my motorcycles for over 20 years now and this is the only site I have seen someone say something about a change to it that effects motorcycles? The bottle has a picture of a motorcycle on it and it still says JASO on the back so unless I see some type of concrete evidence that I shouldn't use it, I'll keep using it. It's in both of my bikes right now.
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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2025, 09:48:30 AM » |
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I hate going here.... but on T6 .... what is the change? Per survey, it doesnt seem to concern many of us.
Yeah idk, I've been using T6 in my motorcycles for over 20 years now and this is the only site I have seen someone say something about a change to it that effects motorcycles? The bottle has a picture of a motorcycle on it and it still says JASO on the back so unless I see some type of concrete evidence that I shouldn't use it, I'll keep using it. It's in both of my bikes right now. T6 5w40 does not meet the Ford spec so shouldn't be used. the T6 15w40 does meet the Ford spec and can be used. https://www.shell.us/business/fuels-and-lubricants/lubricants-for-business/products/shell-rotella-heavy-duty-engine-oils-for-fleets/shell-rotella-t6-full-synthetic-heavy-duty-engine-oil.html
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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2025, 09:39:49 PM » |
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Looks like I’m 50% of the riders using GN4 10w-40 and I use the Honda filter too. Worked at the dealership still have nice discount. Same thing for my Magna.
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