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BradValk48237
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« on: March 10, 2010, 01:44:06 PM »

Hey All...

 Valk was rear ended last Sept. and one of the damaged parts was the 18" truck stack extension on the stock exhaust. The exhaust was pranged, but managed to get it straitened out. So when I tried to get the bolts out to remove the bent extension off they were damaged and I could not get them out with multiple methods..... So I finally got pissed off and cut the heads off. Off came the extension with no problem, re tapped the holes and installed larger bolts. Problem is, the ends of the old bolts fell in the canister and I cant get them out from the back end. Sooo.... wondering if it is a problem to just leave them in. Question is... could they migrate up into the heads? Even if I take the exhaust off.. will they come out through the headers? So wondering if anyone has a diagram of the inside of the muffler or any thoughts on this. You don't hear them rattling when the bike is running or when you whack on the muffler. I could drill a hole in the back and fish them out with a magnet, but then I have a whole to fill up.. really don't want to take the muffler off the bike if I don't have to....

 So thoughts? If they aren't going to go anywhere, I don't have a problem leaving them in there.

Any answers would be a great help.

B
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 02:24:36 PM »

You know those games where you try to get the little ball bearing to go through a maze so it will drop in a hole to win?  With you situation it would be theoretically possible for the bolt to migrate to the head, if you balanced the bike on its front tire (maybe take off the fender first), with the rear tire directly over the front tire, then shook the bike up and down for 5 or 10 minutes 5 or 10 hours.



What our mufflers look like:

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DFragn
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 02:33:41 PM »

You know those games where you try to get the little ball bearing to go through a maze so it will drop in a hole to win?  With you situation it would be theoretically possible for the bolt to migrate to the head, if you balanced the bike on its front tire (maybe take off the fender first), with the rear tire directly over the front tire, then shook the bike up and down for 5 or 10 minutes.

If the OEM exhaust are intact and unmolested you'll never get 'em out and they won't get to the head.

If you really dislike the rattling you could drill one baffle tube in both the forward & rear baffle and then spend hours trying to get lucky jiggling the exhaust over your head, behind your back and such.
You could increase your odds by drilling all six outlets total for both baffles. But then it's so unlikely.

Your gonna have to live with occasional rattling otherwise.

BTW By your procedure description your cut-offs are inside the rear half of the rear baffle. They won't hurt anything if you leave them other than being tossed around with exhaust flow.
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BradValk48237
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 09:46:24 AM »

Thanks Gryphon and Dfragn!

Gryph... did you do that drawing?......   Many thanks..

I took it out for a spin on a nice bumpy street this AM and couldn't hear my new "maracas" (Piggies are cut and truck stacks).. in they will stay.......

Thanks again!

Brad

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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 12:16:52 PM »


Gryph... did you do that drawing?......   


The drawing was done years ago by the person who documented the "Ragnar Cut" and is found via the Shop Talk page.

Oh, and that's NOT me on the sport bike either!
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BradValk48237
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 04:55:32 PM »

Well, got all the parts back from HDL and the plastic back from the painter...

Well , yesterday,  I got the tank back on and started her up to make sure everything was working and no leaks...

But there was this AWFUL rattle in the right pipe (the one I was talking about in this) when I wound it up..... AHHHH... I hadn't really noticed it when I started this. Sounded like a maraca!

SO , I got out the drill and the magnetic retrieval probe..... got alot of shavings from the previous piggie drill and..... the nuts that are welded on to hold the screws that I cut off, with what was left of the screws still in em'. Must be when I got hit, the welds holding the nuts to the canister broke and thats why I had to cut them off.

So now there are a couple of holes in the back of the canister... might have actually helped the exhaust note...LOL

Also, there are some dividers between each piggie, so I had to drill holes next to the screw holes to get the both out... FYI

SO if this happens to anyone else, you can get them out ... and I did not have to take the exhaust off the bike.

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