She has got to GO!!!

[Big Rig]

Pelosi to Aspiring Musicians: Quit Your Job, Taxpayers Will Cover Your Health Care	powered by Aeva

[SANDMAN5]

Wonder if I can quit my job and just RIDE? Does that count as
being creative?

[RoadKill]

Will there be amnesty for "undocumented" musicians ? Will I have to be a card carrying artist?
This seems unnecessary anyhow,My forged copy of my Mexican birth certificate afforded me those same benefits LONG AGO ! ! ! So, now Pelosi is setting it up so that I can be harassed and asked for proof of my unemployement because I carry  guitar case ?  This is just opening the door to "artistic Profiling" 

[FLAVALK]

Ding-Bat 

[fiddle mike]

"A subsidized artist is an incompetent whore"
_Thorne Smith (writer during the Great Depression).

My father, while on a NATO cruise,  visited the 1958 Worlds Fair, in Belgium, and was blown away by the realism of  Soviet art.  It was beautifully done but only had one theme: the of glory Lenin and the Worker's Paradise.  It was reported , in those days, that musicians were "disappeared" if caught playing jazz or other counter-revolutionary music.

The Democrats don't truly support creative art any more than the Soviets did.  That's just as well, I guess, since history demonstrates that the more restrictive laws a society has, the less dynamic and creative it becomes.

[Scanner]

Dang, you cut off the part where Pelosi said " Quit Your Job, Taxpayers Will Cover Your Health Care".  

All I heard her say was that they wouldn't have to be "job locked" to be able to afford insurance, I presume because the bill makes it more affordable for individuals....the "commentator" is the one who said the BS part...

[RoadKill]

Dang, you cut off the part where Pelosi said " Quit Your Job, Taxpayers Will Cover Your Health Care".   

All I heard her say was that they wouldn't have to be "job locked" to be able to afford insurance, I presume because the bill makes it more affordable for individuals....the "commentator" is the one who said the BS part...

So what you heard was that the new law makes health care so affordable you dont need a job that pays you money or reduces your rates with a group plan ? Damn! If it's that damn cheap I'll quit TOO ! !  I can now buy healthcare with out any income ! SWEEEEEEET! 

[Varmintmist]

http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topic/show?id=2600775%3ATopic%3A2191766

[Big Rig]

Dang, you cut off the part where Pelosi said " Quit Your Job, Taxpayers Will Cover Your Health Care".  

All I heard her say was that they wouldn't have to be "job locked" to be able to afford insurance, I presume because the bill makes it more affordable for individuals....the "commentator" is the one who said the BS part...

Scanner,

I did not cut anything off...I saw the report and posted it here...it was the liberal news org that did it...not me...

Pretty soon the only thing we (The USof A) will be able to pay is ATTENTION...

[Scanner]

Dang, you cut off the part where Pelosi said " Quit Your Job, Taxpayers Will Cover Your Health Care".  

All I heard her say was that they wouldn't have to be "job locked" to be able to afford insurance, I presume because the bill makes it more affordable for individuals....the "commentator" is the one who said the BS part...

Scanner,

I did not cut anything off...I saw the report and posted it here...it was the liberal news org that did it...not me...

Pretty soon the only thing we (The USof A) will be able to pay is ATTENTION...

Big Rig, CSN is not a "liberal" news org.

Cybercast News Service (CNS) is a subsidiary of the conservative news monitoring group, the Media Research Center (MRC). Originally calling itself the "Conservative News Service," CNS changed its name to Cybercast in 2000.

And they edited the video because she never said what they are reporting.  What she actually said was that reform would be good because it would make insurance available and affordable for people who don't receive health care from their employers.

Oh well,  same ole same ole...

[fstsix]

So is she the first one that read the Health care bill....or (Her) words lets pass it and see what is in it LOL!!! talk about clueless  

Pelosi: we have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it	powered by Aeva

[G-Man]

And they edited the video because she never said what they are reporting.  What she actually said was that reform would be good because it would make insurance available and affordable for people who don't receive health care from their employers.

Oh well,  same ole same ole...

I am STILL waiting to hear how this will be done.  Months and months of debate, of name calling, of political garbage, aaaaaaaaand still nobody can answer that, or any, question.  I have waited patiently, tried to do the research, listened with my ears wide open, but still have never heard one word on HOW this bill is going lower health care costs to the citizens. 

We know how the Gov will save 500 billion, by cutting medicaire reimbursments to those that treat patients.  This will, in turn, limit access to our seniors in the way of office hours provided, services rendered, and non-acceptance of Medicaire.  We are already seeing this as the gov't has cut physician payments by 21.5% already and Walgreens stopped accepting new Mediciare patients.  I have attended "Medicaire Survival" type conferences for physicians, and seniors will not be happy with many of the suggestions the "experts" floated around.  Much time was spent on practice survival after opting out of Medicaire.

There is something in the law that allows an increase in the Medicaide budget.  So, they're gonna steal it from those that worked hard and paid into the system for all of their lives and give it to those who haven't contributed anything.  Nice, hunh?  That's how we repay our seniors who did the right thing. Still doesn't explain how they're gonna decrease cost to working people.  It will make it available, then fine you if you don't have it, but how does it make it cost less?  The insurance is gonna have to cover EVERYTHING that has a heartbeat.  How can that possibley happen?  Taxing us at 100% won't cover that.

[G-Man]

So is she the first one that read the Health care bill....or (Her) words lets pass it and see what is in it LOL!!! talk about clueless  

They're all clueless because no of them really read it.  They're pushing things that aren't true and can't answer questions.

Why should this surprise me, or anybody?  These are ALL the same people who are spreading untruths about the Arizona law.  Eric Holder, Top Lawyer, bashed the law in 5 seperate interviews and finally had to admitt in the 6th interview, because he was finally asked, that he didn't even read the bill as of yet.  These phukers are so arrogant that they feel they comment and polarize people without even reading the items they speak of.  And the most horrible thing about it all, is that there there are still people, Americans, that stand with these a$$holes in spite of all this.  These are the people who deserve everything that is going to happen, but why drag the rest of us down?

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Dang, you cut off the part where Pelosi said " Quit Your Job, Taxpayers Will Cover Your Health Care".  

All I heard her say was that they wouldn't have to be "job locked" to be able to afford insurance, I presume because the bill makes it more affordable for individuals....the "commentator" is the one who said the BS part...

Pray explain, if not "The Taxpayer" WHO will be funding the cost of the Healthcare Bill?????

[oldtimer]

I hope the e-mail I received today is not correct, but to make matters worse the e-mail stated that Hillary Clinton just signed a treaty on behalf of the United States for international gun control via the UN. If it's true....get ready....for the storm is coming.....

[G-Man]

Scanner, plaese don't try to confuse us with the facts! We know what we know! HELP! HELP! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! PLEASE HELP! lol

Tell our seniors there's nothing to worry about!  Notice how the Dems are holding any more townhall meetings.  They know the seniors will be out in force to give them an earfull and they won't have any answers for them.  They won't be able to defend stealing of 500 billion from them.

[Chrisj CMA]

Dang, you cut off the part where Pelosi said " Quit Your Job, Taxpayers Will Cover Your Health Care".  

All I heard her say was that they wouldn't have to be "job locked" to be able to afford insurance, I presume because the bill makes it more affordable for individuals....the "commentator" is the one who said the BS part...

I dont know maybe its just me, but she said you can "leave your work, because you will have healthcare"  Seems the same as quit your job because you will have healthcare........and WHO ELSE IS PAYING FOR IT IF NOT THE REST OF THE WORKING TAXPAYERS. 

Yes she needs firing BAD and the rest of the Fascist Socialists with her and put in prison camps until the deficit from their bail out/dependency mentality borrowing and spending is paid off

[John Schmidt]

The cost estimate has already exceeded one trillion, and it said that didn't include the $200 billion in the drs. adjustment that wasn't figured in with the original "estimate." I sincerely hope that if the power in either/both the senate and the house should swing away from the current gang, the new party will repeal the healthScare bill along with a couple others.

[G-Man]

The cost estimate has already exceeded one trillion, and it said that didn't include the $200 billion in the drs. adjustment that wasn't figured in with the original "estimate." I sincerely hope that if the power in either/both the senate and the house should swing away from the current gang, the new party will repeal the healthScare bill along with a couple others.

We can only hope.

[Scanner]

Dang, you cut off the part where Pelosi said " Quit Your Job, Taxpayers Will Cover Your Health Care".  

All I heard her say was that they wouldn't have to be "job locked" to be able to afford insurance, I presume because the bill makes it more affordable for individuals....the "commentator" is the one who said the BS part...

I dont know maybe its just me, but she said you can "leave your work, because you will have healthcare"  Seems the same as quit your job because you will have healthcare........and WHO ELSE IS PAYING FOR IT IF NOT THE REST OF THE WORKING TAXPAYERS. 

Yes she needs firing BAD and the rest of the Fascist Socialists with her and put in prison camps until the deficit from their bail out/dependency mentality borrowing and spending is paid off

Is it really that hard to understand?  She said you won't have to rely on your employer for insurance... you could be self employed and still afford insurance. 

Who pays? The person being insured.  Sound "fascist and socialist"?  It's actually called being self reliant. oh well.....

[Mickey Runie]

Is it really that hard to understand?  She said you won't have to rely on your employer for insurance... you could be self employed and still afford insurance. 
Who pays? The person being insured.  Sound "fascist and socialist"?  It's actually called being self reliant. oh well.....

BINGO!

What is it about me, and other hard working, tax paying American citizens NOT wanting to pay for someone else's insurance THAT YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND? 

If I choose to pay my own medical bills as they arise, I should be able to do it.  Mano a'doctoro.   No insurance need be involved.  IF I choose to buy insurance, I shouldn't have to pay higher premiums to assist all those out there in insurance land who cannot afford their own policy to pay for theirs too.   AND UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD I EVER BE FORCED TO BUY INSURANCE.

"SOUND SOCIALIST"?"   HE77 YES!   

[Scanner]

lmao...I guess it is too hard for some to understand...

Are you forced to buy insurance....yes, you are paying into medicare.

Do you pay more because some aren't insured and use emergency rooms like a free pass...yes, you do

Can you go without insurance - sure, just don't own a house or anything else of value when the major bills come rollin in.

Good luck!

[RoadKill]

lmao...I guess it is too hard for some to understand...

Are you forced to buy insurance....yes, you are paying into medicare.

Do you pay more because some aren't insured and use emergency rooms like a free pass...yes, you do

Can you go without insurance - sure, just don't own a house or anything else of value when the major bills come rollin in.

Good luck!

I'm self employed,underinsured(was un-insured) and I own a house and aLOT of neat toys too! Because of a Gov't freeloader I owe more in medical bills than my 5 acres and every thing on it is worth! But I am paying and I will continue to pay. It is called hard WORK ! Self reliance starts with paying your own damn way! Why cant the liberal IDIOTS understand that? If they wanna be self reliant they dont need ANY B.S. coming out of liberal Pelosi's ugly, yapping pie hole!

[Big Rig]

Scanner,

When was the last time you were in an emergency room? Do you think that every one there has insurance? Do you think the ones that do not have insurance have some way of paying for the care they are in need? Would you be willing to pay for those who do not have insurance or the means to cover that expense? Right now we are all paying for these people. So if all the liberals (I throw you in with the libs bc of most of your posts) were to sponsor and pay for those without insurance out of your own pocket, would you do that? Because those of us currently paying for them would prefer not to do so.

I am also interested in your thoughts on helmet laws. Do you or do you not wear? Is that your choice or is it state mandated? Do you think that the government should force you to buy and use a helmet?

[fstsix]

But....but....Mr President i thought it was going to be free for all of us LOL!!! And here we go!! the insurance is going up For Employers!! today...as companies struggle to stay alive they are going to take a hit...this is why we should of had out of State competition.................................... Blue Cross & Blue Shield of Rhode Island, the state’s dominant insurer, has proposed hiking its commercial premiums an average of 12.4 percent to 13.4 percent for next year.

Tufts Health Plan also filed rate-hike requests on Monday, the state’s deadline to gain approval for premium increases for 2011. Tufts requested increases averaging 11 percent to 12 percent.

The rate-hike requests affect only plans offered to employees by companies. Plans administered by employers that are self-insured are not affected.

The requests will now be reviewed by state Health Insurance Commissioner Christopher F. Koller, who last granted rate hikes effective July 1. Any company plan established or renewed after July 1 is not subject to another hike on Jan. 1. Premium hikes for these groups would go into effect when their year-long plans expire.

“Premium costs directly reflect the increasing cost of health care,” Gus Manocchia, Blue Cross vice president and chief medical officer, said in a statement. “Driven primarily by hospital and prescription drug increases, the cost of providing medical care continues to significantly exceed inflation. Given these circumstances, premium rates have not been able to keep pace with increasing medical claims costs.”

Blue Cross, with about 200,000 commercial customers, is seeking average increases of 12.4 percent for companies with 50 or fewer employees and 13.4 for percent for companies with more than 50 employees. The nonprofit insurer recently announced that it had posted a loss of $100 million in 2009.

Tufts, which entered the Rhode Island market in 2008 and insures between 5,000 and 6,000 employees, could not immediately break down its average rate hikes of 11 percent and 12 percent in terms of small-group and large-group employers.

UnitedHealthCare was also expected to request rate hikes, but no figures were immediately available.

Koller could not be reached for comment. His office produces for the public an analysis of insurer rate-hike requests following their submission and seeks public comment in writing and at public meetings.

Last June, Blue Cross proposed average rate hikes of 16.3 percent for large companies and 13.9 percent for small companies. Koller called the rate requests “unjustified” and asked Blue Cross and other insurers that made comparable requests to withdraw their filings for six months.

Blue Cross returned earlier this year, requesting average premium hikes of 14.6 percent for large employers and 11.4 percent for small employers. Koller approved lower rates, of 9.8 percent for small groups and 9.9 percent for large groups. He approved average increases for Tufts of 9.3 percent and 9.5 percent.

Manocchia said Blue Cross will strive to limit future hospital reimbursements to no more than that of inflation, encourage the use of generic drugs, eliminate medically unnecessary imaging and prevent medical fraud and abuse.

Patti Embrie-Tautenhan, spokeswoman for Tufts, a private for-profit company, said, “We built in no profit because we are very mindful of the burden of rising health-care costs, which is driven by medical expense.”

Koller does not merely rule on the total premium, but examines the factors that the insurers say underlie their need for more money — the costs of hospital care, medications, primary care, administration and profits.

rsalit@projo.com

[Scanner]

Scanner,

When was the last time you were in an emergency room? Do you think that every one there has insurance? Do you think the ones that do not have insurance have some way of paying for the care they are in need? Would you be willing to pay for those who do not have insurance or the means to cover that expense? Right now we are all paying for these people. So if all the liberals (I throw you in with the libs bc of most of your posts) were to sponsor and pay for those without insurance out of your own pocket, would you do that? Because those of us currently paying for them would prefer not to do so.

I am also interested in your thoughts on helmet laws. Do you or do you not wear? Is that your choice or is it state mandated? Do you think that the government should force you to buy and use a helmet?

JEEZ....YOU ALREADY PAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM!!    That's why the damn bills are so high!  Just like shoplifting or other other examples - prices get higher to compensate for the losses.

As far as helmets go, they "force" you to do many things - seat belts, collision safety standards for cars, air bags, child safety seats...

If every accident was a clean kill and they didn't clog the healthcare system and raise our rates with avoidable injuries I would care less if people wore helmets or not.  At that point it is Natural Selection, and many of those who don't wear a helmet would simply not pass on those genes.

Roadkill -  your choice to go uninsured, so there ya go.   Some choose a little more cautious route and buy insurance, which I don't think makes them idiots, in fact, just the opposite.