John Schmidt
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« on: May 31, 2010, 05:09:26 PM » |
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Anyone ever done it, and if so...what's involved? How do I transfer everything from the old one to the new. Seems like if you take one out and install the new one, it defeats the ability to hook one to the other. Also wondering if I go large, will I need to change the motherboard?
I have a five year old Dell Dimension 3000 series, and Tiger Direct has a Western Digital 1.5TB on sale right now for $69.99, marked down $40. So, I'm wondering if my system will support it. I don't need that much but figure what the heck, for that price......
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 05:13:27 PM » |
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It's not that hard. Check out Maxtor Hard Drives. You can install the new drive as the primary and the old drive as a slave if you like, and Maxtor has a program included to change everything over. I on the other hand prefer to keep my original hard drive as is.... install a new hard drive (much larger) and then reload the programs I want. It kinda keeps the old drive as a back up in the event of a failure of some sort. Your choice. Get the biggest hard drive your system will support..... have fun.
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Joe Hummer
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2010, 05:23:55 PM » |
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what operating system are you running? The operating system you are running may not recognize that large of a drive.
If your operating system supports the larger drive, you can connect your drives together in a Master/Slave configuration. You put the new drive as the master. There are jumper settings on the old drive to change it from Master to Slave. It is possible that your computer has the proper cable but if not, your local best buy or similar store will have them. Oh...yeah...the drives will have to be talking the same protocol...IDE...ATA...SATA...You can look in your BIOS setting to determine which drive types your computer will accept. The BIOS is only accessible when you first boot up your computer...you should hit F2 when you see the BIOS screen. You can also set your boot sequence in your BIOS.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2010, 06:56:27 PM » |
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I'm running XP, the hard drive is ATA, the one I was looking at is SATA. I'll check the Bios in the morning when I boot up, I usually shut it off at night...could never figure out why my son-in-law leaves his four running 24/7.
When you say I can have one as the slave and the other as master, I'm assuming both are installed at the same time?? Guess I didn't know there was room for both of them in there. If I left the old one in place, I'm wondering if I would have a cooling problem. Not sure I want to do that anyway since I have an external HDDV I use for backup.
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Joe Hummer
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2010, 07:07:19 PM » |
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there should be room for it...most tower cases have space for 2 hard drives...Cooling shouldn't be a problem either...If you don't want to leave the old drive in, you can put it in for the mass transfer of data...but you can do that with your external drive. Just make sure you reload all your wanted programs back on your new hard drive...can't copy them over. Also, make sure you have all the drivers you need on your external drive. Especially if this is your only computer at home...
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GreenLantern57
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2010, 07:34:19 PM » |
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Been swapping Hard Drives since the early 90's. Most drives come with a set of utilities that can tranfer data from one drive to another. If it is not in the package, you can get them on their websites.
Personally, I burn everything to CD's or DVD's. Then I reload the operating system to the new hard drive. That way I can reload the programs I really need and not some of the older programs hanging around.
If you are completly happy with the current software and the way the computer is running, use the utilities to clone your old hard drive to your new hard drive.
Few things to do before cloning.
Clean out your computer of unneeded files. Get rid of old event files, old restore points, and especially temporary files.
Once clean, run check disk and defrag afterwards.
Get utility program to clean up your Windows registry file. This helps get rid of old markers to software that is no longer on your computer, but left ghost pieces on your registry. Uninstall programs are only as good as the programmer.
Unplug the internet and then run the cloning program. This ensures your computer safety while the cloning prgram is running. You will want the firewall, antivirus, and internet safety programs turned off to quicken the install time.
Good luck. If your BIOS will handle the larger hard drive, do not partition it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2010, 07:39:26 PM » |
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I'm running XP, the hard drive is ATA, the one I was looking at is SATA. I'll check the Bios in the morning when I boot up, I usually shut it off at night...could never figure out why my son-in-law leaves his four running 24/7.
When you say I can have one as the slave and the other as master, I'm assuming both are installed at the same time?? Guess I didn't know there was room for both of them in there. If I left the old one in place, I'm wondering if I would have a cooling problem. Not sure I want to do that anyway since I have an external HDDV I use for backup.
Make sure you have SATA ports in your computer before you buy a SATA HD....otherwise it will just be a paper weight that you can't plug into your computer. You leave computers running 24/7 because HD read/write heads are "Flying" heads. Once they spin up, then never touch the platter. When you turn off the power, the head is parked once it spins down. One tiny microscopic piece of debris and the head is toast(scratching the platter). If you leave them running, the less chance they will fail during spin up and spin down. That is the most common cause of HD failure. I rarely turn any of my computers off. -Scott |
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2010, 08:04:25 PM » |
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Make sure you have SATA ports in your computer before you buy a SATA HD....otherwise it will just be a paper weight that you can't plug into your computer.
You leave computers running 24/7 because HD read/write heads are "Flying" heads. Once they spin up, then never touch the platter. When you turn off the power, the head is parked once it spins down. One tiny microscopic piece of debris and the head is toast(scratching the platter). If you leave them running, the less chance they will fail during spin up and spin down. That is the most common cause of HD failure. I rarely turn any of my computers off.
-Scott
The drive he is looking at is a SATA II 3.0GB and is a green drive. I have one green drive and I can tell you it stops spinning and powers down when not being used. All of my other 12 drives are black. |
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2010, 08:49:57 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2010, 10:05:02 PM » |
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John your computer is a older one and not really worth doing it to as it has space for only one hard drive is a ide connection and not sata.You will also need a update to Windows XP to recognize a hard drive that large. There is plenty of software out there that will copy from one drive to the new one Norton Ghost or Acronis disc copy. Both will make a exact copy to use and you dont have to prepare if you like all that you have on your computer. I dont know why you want a larger drive but a external additional drive may be a better option. You get to keep the computer the way it is now and have a external drive for added space and no trying to switch drives but still will have to update XP to recognize a 1tb drive. Your computer has a usb 2.0 so the external drive will be just about as fast as what you are used to and its just a plug and play deal. I have not had luck with the software that comes with the drives in eliminating the XP ceiling but if you get a external drive you may not have to go that large. I have included the web page link to your computer so you may pickup some additional info and if you go to the software page Dell may already have a update to your system that will address larger drives. http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim3000/en/SM/parts.htm#wp1077312This is from Dell outlet just to give a example my be better and not to expensive to order a new computer. * Inspiron Desktop 530 Mini-tower: Intel Pentium dual-core processor E5200 (2MB L2, 2.5GHz, 800 FSB) System Price : $389.00 Operating System Genuine Windows Vista Home PremiumMemory 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800MHz (2 DIMMs)Hard Disk Drive 640 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)Software Upgrade 64BIT Operating System DVD Microsoft Works 9.0Scratch & Dent Scratch & DentHardware Upgrade Dell 19 in 1 Media Card Reader USB Keyboard Optical 2-Button Mouse No ModemBase Inspiron Desktop 530 Mini-tower: Intel Pentium dual-core processor E5200 (2MB L2, 2.5GHz, 800 FSB) |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 10:38:44 AM » |
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It will take me a while to absorb all that info, but I really appreciate it. Re. not having a hookup/port for the SATA, I ran across the item shown in the link below. It would appear to answer that question, but I'm wondering if that's the only thing that would prevent one drive from talking to the other. I do have a 250gb external but have only used it for backup. I usually try to clean the Temp files at least once a week, check the Regis. about as often, the virus check runs automatically each day. I used to think I had a lot of junk in my file I have set up for just my "stuff." Then I got to cleaning out some of my wife's stuff...I don't feel so bad now. She's afraid of computers, fearful that if she hits the wrong key the entire system will crash and burn in front of her and I will send her off to live in a cave in the Rocky Mountains or something. Told her not to worry, I don't know of any unoccupied caves in the Rockies. Re. the ATA & SATA ports, will the item in the link take care of that problem? http://www.cooldrives.com/sahadradtoid.html |
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