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« on: June 05, 2010, 07:24:14 PM » |
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New (to me) 99 I/S, green/silver, bags scratched up and a ding here and there from previous owners. Like any good parent, I've spent the last month buying her presents; tank belt, bra, adjustable levers, chrome polish, windshield polish (for the new larger windshield), Oil, pumpkin oil; you know, necessities. So after a few hours trying to figure out how to make the MotoWings fit (they will look great, all flamy and such, but the design and workmanship are disappointing) I give up and ride out into the country for ice cream. Three blocks from home I'm making a left turn from the main road to my street when I see that one of the approaching cars is closer than I thought, is going way too fast or both. Now I'm fairly new to riding, 2 1/2 seasons on a GL1100 and 6 weeks on the Fat Lady, so without thinking I goose her hard, not wanting to die and immediately knowing that I am gonna dump this bike in the middle of the road in front of the scary guy! Well cursed if she didn't just take it and scoot out of the way, straitening up on the side street and saying, 'Yeah, so what?'. The thing is I thought I was going to scrape my knee and bounce my shoulder off the road she leaned so low, but nothing touched the road. Just how far down do you have to go to scrape pegs and Hard Things? And just how brave (or nuts) does one have to be?
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2010, 07:30:11 PM » |
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She will scrape some of us do it all the time ask JOE 
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2010, 07:37:39 PM » |
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 I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2010, 07:43:07 PM » |
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nothing better than having twin foot pegs, spary and sparky II 
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2010, 03:38:33 AM » |
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Looks like that bike went down. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2010, 06:12:20 AM » |
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Looks like that bike went down.  Yep, the damage looks exactly like the damage I did to my bike in my "low speed get off" during a hail storm in Denver. Laid it down and slid a bit. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 06:36:32 AM » |
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Yup, thats what mine looked like - I was doing some tight up hill and down hill twisties with a group. Doing about 45 mph and cranked it into a tight down hill turn. Right as I leaned into the turn the front wheel hit gravel. I didn't know it at the time and didn't know I went over, just felt like a tighter than usual turn and then there was this awful grinding noise and I was thinking WTF - it didn't used to do that. Slid to a stop - I got off uttered a hearty well sh!t, picked it up and finished my ride. It ground a flat spot on the crash bar like the one shown and another on the bar under the hard bags, but nothing else was touched. -RP
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 07:58:24 AM » |
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I am not sure that it actually went down BUT I have been known to be wrong.  The reason that I say this is that it has the original Honda leather bags (marked from week 8 of 97) and there wasn't a mark on them or on the metal frames that are underneath the bags and nothing on the exhaust tips. The standard pegs have certainly been rubbing tarmac.  Any way new exhausts and new engine guard as part of the rebuild so I don't think I will ever know for certain. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 08:05:09 AM » |
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Yup, thats what mine looked like - I was doing some tight up hill and down hill twisties with a group. Doing about 45 mph and cranked it into a tight down hill turn. Right as I leaned into the turn the front wheel hit gravel. I didn't know it at the time and didn't know I went over, just felt like a tighter than usual turn and then there was this awful grinding noise and I was thinking WTF - it didn't used to do that. Slid to a stop - I got off uttered a hearty well sh!t, picked it up and finished my ride. It ground a flat spot on the crash bar like the one shown and another on the bar under the hard bags, but nothing else was touched. -RP
I got the pipe and the crash bar just like his picture, but nothing on the bag guard. I was pulling a trailer maybe that kept the back up?
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 08:12:39 AM » |
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This was done by a member many years ago while enjoying a track day on his Interstate.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 09:51:43 AM » |
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I only manage to scrape the drivers foot pegs.
I have a CT, and seem to only scrape while blasting down hill through the twisties...
This is only my second season on the '99 interstate.
I used to drag the rear bags all the time on my '91 Yamaha Venture...
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2010, 10:08:54 AM » |
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Dragging is riding. but not Dragging and going fast is the trick. If you take a Sport Bike Riding Course , you will learn how to hang off the bike a little and change your center of gravity. This allows you to go faster in the turns and still not drag anything. It will work on a cruiser as well. Big Al
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2010, 10:15:29 AM » |
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Here is an example of a cruiser doing the lean off to the side and get more speed in the corners thing. he is one of the best at this, don't try this at home folks. Sport Bike trying to keep up and film him, he is on a Ducati behind him. Big Al
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2010, 10:30:39 AM » |
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Got a small flat spot on the header pipe just ahead of the left side peg. Was making a U turn and managed to hit one those raised reflective pavement markers (1/2" thick) glued to the pavement between the paint stripes. I've got some scrapes on the rear bag guards from negotiating some sharp/steep horizontal/vertical curves. Attachment knuckle on the Kury highway pegs stick out a bit further than the front engine guard. Those have a few rub marks on them as well. Yrmv,
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2010, 12:01:44 PM » |
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I knew that yellow wolf video would show up LOL
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2010, 12:37:03 PM » |
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Best example that I know of is ole Yellow Wolf.
Don't you think.
Big AL
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2010, 08:04:51 PM » |
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Hey Fred, I know how hard the fat lady is to resist when she is calling you to ride. I also know that the brackets can be a bit fiddly and difficult to get right, particularly if your in a hurry to go riding. Just to make things clear Motowing makes the acrylic, flamed or not, while the frames are made by Baker Airwings. If you are having problems with assembly of the frames, if you call Baker at 800-451- 9464, they will be happy to work with you until they are right. If you have problems with the quality or workmanship of the
acrylic call me at 480-969-7032. I'll make certain that everything is right for you. And then you'll be enjoying the benefits of airwings like a majority of riders do now.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2010, 08:40:13 PM » |
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Thanks for the number. I think they sent the wrong support brackets for the part over the air boxes. I can bend the acrylic and re-drill (not the best idea) or find a way to extend the brackets 1". I'll call and hope they can send longer brackets. Also the main frame bolts on using the two large hex-screws on the air boxes; great idea, but the existing screws are too big for the holes, and would be too short to work anyway! (I have some that will work, but had to go to 2 Honda Shops to get them). I would think, if they ever actually installed these on an I/S, that they would have included 4 replacement screws. They'll look great, I'm sure, but sending wrong/missing hardware is not a good sign for future purchases. Fred.
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2010, 01:02:55 AM » |
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Here is an example of a cruiser doing the lean off to the side and get more speed in the corners thing.
he is one of the best at this, don't try this at home folks.
Sport Bike trying to keep up and film him, he is on a Ducati behind him.
Big Al
A Duc? Fooled me. I't sounded & looked like the camera bike was also an 1800 Wing. Never thought there be a need for a Wings windscreen vent in a small sport screen. Guess that's the way to shed turbulence of a Duc's back.
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2010, 05:04:40 AM » |
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Here is an example of a cruiser doing the lean off to the side and get more speed in the corners thing. he is one of the best at this, don't try this at home folks. Sport Bike trying to keep up and film him, he is on a Ducati behind him. Big Al deals gap on a goldwing/gl1800 by yellow wolf dragons tailI'm not as fast a rider as Yellow Wolf and never will be BUT he's still not doing it right. He's not really leaning off the bike. Look closely he's kinda pushing the bike down and has his knee sticking out BUT his upper torso is in line with the bike. He could have moved his torso into the bend and kept the bike upright a degree or 2 OR used his upper torso weight to lean the bike a tad more. BUT as we could hear his main limiting factor is the hard parts touching and as we all know that's a bad thing if done to excess cause the next thing that happens is the rear wheel gets lifted off the blacktop.  Not good
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2010, 05:35:08 AM » |
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I lean off mine regularily and believe me, it makes a huge difference. I've ridden with sport bike crowds and they are amazed at what a "super" valk is capable of. One guy acted like he was going to "kick that 800 lb beast" that he couldn't get away from. Though to be fair, other, more experienced riders could leave me in the dust.
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2010, 06:47:43 AM » |
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"If you take a Sport Bike Riding Course , you will learn how to hang off the bike a little and change your center of gravity. This allows you to go faster in the turns and still not drag anything. It will work on a cruiser as well." Big Al +1  You don't have to go to school, just practice what Al says, it does work, I picked it up a few years ago, and I feel much better about fast corners, I found right handers easier to master that lefts, for some reason. Hoser
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2010, 07:27:19 AM » |
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If after speaking with Baker, you have any issues remaining, please let me know. Actually, I would appreciate a followup on how this turns out, either way. My email is rikb@(remove this)image4u.com Thanks.
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2010, 10:45:48 PM » |
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I am truely amazed with Baker. Two days ago I received an e-mail from Sherry at Baker, saying that she saw my post and is there anything they can do to rectify my issues? I hadn't gotten around to calling them yet! I explained my issues and thanked her for her time. Today I received another e-mail from Sherry asking for my address so she can get the parts desk to send me the correct items. This customer service is wildly beyond anything I have ever experienced, let alone dreamed about! Thank-you Sherry. Thank-you Baker Air Wings. Fred.
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