Side stand issues

[PhredValk]

All OK out in the country for dinner with friends. 99 I/S.
Got to the local gas station and the side (kick) stand won't stay down. Won't stay completely up either, sort of hangs 1/3 of the way up. Also, the bike doesn't die in gear with the stand down. The spring looks OK and is attached at both ends.
Can the side stand  braket move? Sort of swivel on its axis? The bike is solid on the stand if I hold the stand in place and lean the bike over on the stand, and it stays in the normal position, angle-wise, when the bike is on it. I lean the bike upright and the stand comes up on it's own to the 2/3rd up position.
I did a search and didn't find anything quite like this.
Yours in weirdness, Fred.

[John J]

My side stand went very stiff recently after a prolonged trip in the rain. A squirt of WD40 did the trick and it went back to normal. Yours may not be the same problem but worth a try.

[Chrisj CMA]

You may have had a failure of the bolt that the spring hooks to at the top end.  It may be not quite broken in two and the spring hanging by a prayer.  Could be dangerous to ride that way, get it on a lift and check it out

[Jay]

Mine seems to operate fine but needs a bit of help from time to time.  The pivot bolt gets a shot of wd40 which fixes the problem.  Take a good look to make sure everything is in place with no signs of cracks, bends, etc.

[Hef]

I agree with Chris. Check the bolt the spring hooks to. These are a poor excuse for design and seem to bend and/or break pretty easily.

[wizard -vrccds#125]

You better check the safety swicth. The spring can hang up on it. Mine did it at 45 and forced the kick stant down then would not move until I hit a 8" curb. CHECK THE SWITCH so this don't happen to YOU !

[sandy]

WD40 is a good product for freeing up sticky things but it's not a lubricant. In 24 hrs it evaporates away. I use a spray called Tef-Lube. It's a teflon based lube which makes the sidestand a real swinger.

[fudgie]

You better check the safety swicth. The spring can hang up on it. Mine did it at 45 and forced the kick stant down then would not move until I hit a 8" curb. CHECK THE SWITCH so this don't happen to YOU !

Do you still have the switch then on your 'new' bike? I got rid of my switch when I redid the ss bolt.

[PhredValk]

Drove the bike to my buddy's garage VERY carefully with the stand tied up as the spring was lying on the driveway. Bolt was broken and no sign of the nut and remainder of the bolt, so it was probably just hung up on the bolt-hole.
From the looks of it the spring swivels the switch when you put the stand down. I moved the switch by hand and now it won't start in gear; so that should not need replacing.
Off to work now and off to the Honda shop tomorrow morning. Gonna buy me a few of these things...
Thanks all.
Fred.

ps. I couldn't find anything on the sidestand in the Clymer Guide. Anyone have a page number?

[Gryphon Rider]

If yours broke like mine, the threaded end of the side-stand spring bolt (fig.1 #11) is still in the hole, with the nut (fig.1 #19) still in place above.  The bolt was hung up on the switch holder (fig.2 #3), only held there by tension from the spring (fig.2 #4).  I now see I lost a washer (fig.1 #30) and will dig one out of my assorted fastener bin.

fig. 1


fig. 2

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

I broke mine off and had to use a small bungy cord and some wire to finish a ride. I built a new bolt from stuff at the local hardware store. Bolt several nuts and a spring and I was back in business. Still running the same setup. Remember the coin trick with the spring replacement and it goes on easy.

[chip]

"Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008''  Coin trick ?     
" Fudgie "

"Redid SS bolt? "    How about sharing a little info on this Trick and fix I may have my stand off soon to add a 1/4 thick foot to the stand. This would be an opportunity to take care of any potental problems.

[fudgie]

"Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008''  Coin trick ?     
" Fudgie "

"Redid SS bolt? "    How about sharing a little info on this Trick and fix I may have my stand off soon to add a 1/4 thick foot to the stand. This would be an opportunity to take care of any potental problems.

I took the ss(side stand) bolt off and went to the hardware to get a phillips head bolt to replace the oem one. Just screwed it in below the bracket. It should never bottom out.

[chip]

So which bolt are we talking about in the parts break down that Gryphon Rider posted ?  ( #11 )?

[wizard -vrccds#125]

Yes, I did put a new one on, but did not plug it in. still bypassed !

[elraque]

WD40 is a good product for freeing up sticky things but it's not a lubricant. In 24 hrs it evaporates away. I use a spray called Tef-Lube. It's a teflon based lube which makes the sidestand a real swinger.

Yeah, what you said. WD is great for making stuck things move, but it ain't no lubricant. There's LOTS of other stuff that's good lubricants for AFTER the WD gets it loose.

[fudgie]

So which bolt are we talking about in the parts break down that Gryphon Rider posted ?  ( #11 )?

I believe so. Which ever the spring hooks to.

I went out and looked I also added a nut so the spring wont move down.

[chip]

Thanks Fudgie. You two have a good time this weekend.

[PhredValk]

Thanks, Gryphon, for the exploded diagram. I was going to ask if anyone had one. Where did that come from, by the way? Future problems could use info like this.
Fred.

[hubcapsc]

  Coin trick ?     

Jamb nickels on edge into the coils till the spring gets long enough to hook it where you need it
without any struggles...

-Mike

[Gryphon Rider]

Thanks, Gryphon, for the exploded diagram. I was going to ask if anyone had one. Where did that come from, by the way? Future problems could use info like this.
Fred.

I googled "valkyrie microfiche" and www.hondapartshouse.com was on the first results page.

[Sodbuster]

So .... to disable the side stand switch is it just a matter of unplugging it and removing it ?? Then everything will be OK but engine will start if stand is down .... correct ??

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

 I'm sorry I figured somebody had a photo of the coin trick somewhere. I hooked one end of my spring in a vise and put a screwdriver thru the other hook and pulled enough to get a coin in the first coil of the spring continue doing this until coins are in each wrap. It makes getting the spring on easy, and after it is attached just lower kickstand and keep the change.

[DFragn]

From the looks of it the spring swivels the switch when you put the stand down.


Thanks all.
Fred.

Negative.
The spring has nothing to do with switch activation.
The stand itself is what activates the switch by way of rotation at the mount.

[RP#62]

So .... to disable the side stand switch is it just a matter of unplugging it and removing it ?? Then everything will be OK but engine will start if stand is down .... correct ??

Nope.  Not unless you jumper across the connector.
-RP

[Sodbuster]

So .... to disable the side stand switch is it just a matter of unplugging it and removing it ?? Then everything will be OK but engine will start if stand is down .... correct ??

Nope.  Not unless you jumper across the connector.
-RP

Ahh .... Thanks RP !!

[tank_post142]

put the nickles in while the spring is stretched then when you release the pressure , the spring will still be extended.