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98valk
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« on: June 30, 2010, 07:39:55 AM »


http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2010/06/29/a_doctors_take_on_health_care_98543.html

Rationing in mind, Rahm Emmanuel's brother published a very well received paper in the New England Journal Of Medicine about efficient or optimal deployment of resources in health care. The upshot is that a young man is worth spending a lot of money on, a young child much less, and for seniors, pretty much nothing; all in a calculated return on investment model.

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G-Man
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2010, 08:11:25 AM »

But there's no such thing as death panels!   Cheesy

Medicaire providers and facilities have had their reimbursements cut 21.5%, and New York State is having $1 Billion cut from it's Medicaide stipend for the next year from the Gov't.  Let the rationing begin.  

Pelosi was right, now that it's passed, I guess we're finally seeing what's in the new health care law.     uglystupid2
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Jack
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2010, 09:01:39 AM »

Hate to admit it, but my dad is a perfect example of an older man who may need to be told "no" when he goes to the ER.  He thinks he knows more than his doctors and refuses to take his meds or listen to them about anything else until he finds himself in serious problems.  He recently had to spend 10 days in the ICU due to his not taking his blood thinner.
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solo1
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 09:43:40 AM »

Hate to admit it, but my dad is a perfect example of an older man who may need to be told "no" when he goes to the ER.  He thinks he knows more than his doctors and refuses to take his meds or listen to them about anything else until he finds himself in serious problems.  He recently had to spend 10 days in the ICU due to his not taking his blood thinner.

Jack, a lot of older people don't think that they necessarily know better than docs, they just get tired of paying for and taking a bunch of meds, and that causes the problems.

As for doctors knowing it all,  during my wife's illness, I found a number of docs that made mistakes treating my wife, and a number of docs that had a helluve ego and 'knew what's good for you'  Ultimately, you, the patient, are responsible for your health.

It's too bad, there aren't enough Geriatric physicians out there.  The reducing of Medicare payments for the elderly sure won't help.  I won't even talk about the Health Care Law!
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Momz
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 10:54:53 AM »

I am a disabiled person. My disabilities were not diagnosed within a resonable timespan, and there are doctors are less than professional when it comes to recognizining symptoms.

Last year I had four prostate prceedures that were found to be completely unessesary, by another doctor. I still had a seemingly on going prostate problem, but it was directicly attributed to my nuero-muscular condition.

Making a diagnosis based on test results, rather than patient history and as well as test results, is guaranteed cost the patient, insurance, and medicare far more than money. The costs are passed on to your insurers, as well as the government (Medicare).

It is easy to complain about gornment intervention, however with proper testing and paient history, we could see a radical change in the health and longevity of Americans. Rather than complain about governmental interference, we should be demanding that medical professionals and insurers fully diagnose ailments based on more than simple diagnosis. This would prove to save both individuals and all taxpayers far more than just monetary costs, because ones heath is priceless.
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G-Man
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 11:07:51 AM »

This would prove to save both individuals and all taxpayers far more than just monetary costs, because ones heath is priceless.

Unfortunately, one's health is only priceless to one's own self and a few people in and around one's life, and not to the community as a whole.......as demonstrated by the way health care is moving.  In a perfect world.......but this is surely NOT a perfect world.
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