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Author Topic: Cliff- what about the zip ties?  (Read 3044 times)
Cleaner Man
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« on: July 05, 2010, 04:56:35 AM »

I searched for the zip tie/tire change and found nothing.  Can you tell me what, or where this is? BTW- I have a Red Eye Quick Disconnect, and like it.
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Bone
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2010, 07:26:51 AM »

Cleaner Man I know where Lowell is located Smiley
Check your e-mail.
I had copied most of the posts about the tire mounting with Zip Ties so I could show a couple of friends. I think it's a neat approach. I sent it to your address in your profile.
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Cliff
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2010, 08:59:51 AM »

Just use zip ties (I used 9 of them spaced around the tire) to squeeze the tire beads completely together.  Then you can mount the tire on the rim both beads at once only using a little bit of lube for the last little bit. You have to make sure the first section over the rim stays in the "well" of the rim.  And just use hand pressure to complete the mount.  I think there is a video on you tube.  I'm at work right now and can't access you tube.  You could also use cam lock cargo straps to squeeze the tire beads together.  Next time I am going to try the same technique to remove the old tire from the rim,, I like the idea of not touching the alloy wheels with tools.

Here is the thread where I learned about it.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,16825.msg143048.html#msg143048
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Brad
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2010, 01:54:26 PM »

Don't know the reason for sure but at the tire shops they fire employees for mounting both beads at the same time.  They claim high risk for bead damage that may result in a future blowout.
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TearlessTom
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2010, 03:55:54 PM »

I have used this techniques many times and it has worked flawlessly each time. I still cant find the utube video where I saw it 1st. 
I can see where if in a tire shop if both sides are tried to mount at once it would put extra pressure on the bead but this ACTUALLY PUTS LESS pressure on the bead.  It is almost effortless as long as you use some soap and keep the bead in the well or center deep area the rim.

Any time you can mount a tire with no tools it can't put much pressure on the bead. To me its a win win situation.
Tom
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2010, 04:17:42 PM »

Don't know the reason for sure but at the tire shops they fire employees for mounting both beads at the same time.  They claim high risk for bead damage that may result in a future blowout.

I bet a studly machine could put both beads on at the same time, and I can imagine that it would put
stress on the tire...

The zip-tie method though, as I understand it, doesn't involve stress, just the opposite... it makes it
easy enough for a person to put a tire on with no machine, almost no tools at all...

-Mike "I'm trying it next time!"
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Cliff
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 03:55:46 AM »

Don't know the reason for sure but at the tire shops they fire employees for mounting both beads at the same time.  They claim high risk for bead damage that may result in a future blowout.
Could be due to damage caused to beads from the amount of force required (usually applied via metal tool) to pass both beads over the edge of the rim when NOT using zip ties or something to make it easy to keep both beads in the "well" of the rim.  Using this technique and only force applied with bare human hands on the tire there is no way you are going to damage the bead, in fact after doing this it becomes quite obvious that it stresses the bead far less than doing one at time using the conventional methods.  As long as you stick to using hands only there is no chance of damage.  Next time I am using the same technique for the dismount. After breaking the bead I should be able to insert the zip ties and cinch them down then reverse the mounting procedure using the lube,,, I am a BIG fan of keeping the metal tools away from my rims and rotors ( not to mention less sweating   Grin ) and BTW having both beads cinched together during the mount kept the dyna beads from trying to escape!
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