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Can't believe that with all the jobs being lost with the drilling shut down in the Gulf. Thousands has lost their jobs. David
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2010, 03:21:26 PM » |
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Glad to see ya Cut in Paste, LOL!!! so ya got to loose 4 Million jobs to Create 2 Million? What about the Private sector...you know the Apple cart that supports the Tax revenue that supplied those new Gov jobs ? do i dare cut and paste those Job's gone?
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 03:28:34 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 03:41:37 PM » |
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This administration has killed more jobs than its created, and the numbers are very fuzzy........
Obama said if we didnt approve his stimulous plan unemployment would go to 10%. He said his plan would keep it below 8%
Now we have some states/cities at 14% and the national average close to 10%
I guess that means if we did nothing it would have been a little better than trying to spend our way to prosperity. Ya, try that at home.......get out that credit card and see how it works for you
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 03:44:53 PM » |
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The numbers are always fuzzy when they don't support what you (mistakenly) believe.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2010, 03:47:30 PM » |
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The numbers are always fuzzy when they don't support what you (mistakenly) believe.
Its not a matter of belief......facts dont lie........Obama is a failure when it comes to economics.........Well, I shouldnt say failure.......Obamanomics is bad for America but its not a failure to Obama because its exactly what he wants...........thats even worse
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Well i got's to say by your chart makes since, The last 2 years of Bush the house was run by the Dems so it took a big loss, that was the time i sold 2 of my rentals, but hate to rain on your parade but here is what the Economy was doing before 2007....so your chart could be Right! LOL!!... http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/03/news/economy/jobs_january/index.htm notice i try to give you CNN 
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2010, 04:01:35 PM » |
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If Obama subtracted all the "jobs" he "created" for the census, his job creation numbers would REEELY be in the red. I know a couple of these workers, they get hired and fired many many times, each time its a "new job" What a joke
And the census has to happen by law......whover signed that law should get all the credit for those jobs
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2010, 04:02:27 PM » |
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I gotta qoute Judge Judy 'don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining'
millions on unemployment, millions more U6 under employed are going to disagree with those numbers.
my best bud out in Oregon has been unemployed for 2 years, locally 14% unemployed.
democrats are largely anti business, a president as radical as this one is UBER anti business.
don't worry though the jobs being created are in government/public sector. the IRS in particular comes to mind.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2010, 04:10:50 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2010, 04:24:49 PM » |
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With apologies to Daniel Meyer, I think this chart sums it up the best... 
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Gee, I thought a chart that simple could be understood by most everyone...wrong.
You see, it says "number of jobs lost". You might also notice that since Obama took office those losses get smaller.
It takes a special person to say it's because census workers get fired and rehired a lot...uh....when they get hired again it's a new job???? But then every time they get fired that would be a lost job right? whew.
And because someone's "best bud" is out of work the national bureau of labor statistics is wrong? By the way, the repubs think your bud is a drug addict or he prefers unemployment to a job. That's why they fight against extending unemployment benefits.
wow
No, lets go back and let the repubs in power again...yeah good times are a comin! Who the hell do you think got us in this financial mess? Reagan tripled the national debt and then Bush and the repugs doubled it on top of that!!!!
Just do a tiny bit of fact checking when the bozos start inventing crap or trying to re-write history. It's a good thing.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2010, 05:02:54 PM » |
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"bump" LOL I now know what it is like to be a mouse and go after that cheese on the trap... YOUCH!!!!! 76paragraphs or Links w/ "slanted" views it's the same thing.... You can wrap "$hit" in a pretty box but guess what you still have??? Just trying to help scanner reach his 200th read on his post
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2010, 05:10:25 PM » |
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2010, 05:14:29 PM » |
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Gee, I thought a chart that simple could be understood by most everyone...wrong.
You see, it says "number of jobs lost". You might also notice that since Obama took office those losses get smaller.
It takes a special person to say it's because census workers get fired and rehired a lot...uh....when they get hired again it's a new job???? But then every time they get fired that would be a lost job right? whew.
And because someone's "best bud" is out of work the national bureau of labor statistics is wrong? By the way, the repubs think your bud is a drug addict or he prefers unemployment to a job. That's why they fight against extending unemployment benefits.
wow
No, lets go back and let the repubs in power again...yeah good times are a comin! Who the hell do you think got us in this financial mess? Reagan tripled the national debt and then Bush and the repugs doubled it on top of that!!!!
Just do a tiny bit of fact checking when the bozos start inventing crap or trying to re-write history. It's a good thing.
Maybe we should Audit the fed and see where all this money is going, Looks like we have a Independent here in RI that may push both of the other parties aside this next election, How about a JFK Democrat ? where have they all gone ? He would have my vote! but anyone that talks Monetary policy, will have their head will explode. Just curious Scanner....a thought, My father RIP, was a Engineer Rockwell Int, i remember him being laid off in the sixties once, he had 6 weeks to find a job, and if he could prove he was looking he might get a extension for 6 more weeks, i remember how hard he Beat the streets to find whatever he could and he found work, People right now have been out of work for over 2 years and the house just passed 2 more years for the unemployed, Is this a good thing? or just a new entitlement ie welfare program? A lot of people have fallen of the Unemployment rolls, and have gave up. What is the answer ? time to clean house Both sides! you should feel the same about your party as i did when i was a Repup, It's no longer about Party lines it's about survival, people are sick and tired of party line politics. we need change alright not more welfare programs!
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2010, 05:14:47 PM » |
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Wow!!! Very sobering and enlightening. Somebody spent a lot of time breaking this down by every county in the country. Review this Unemployment map of the United States . This is hard to believe! I had to review this map a couple of times to grasp the enormity of it. Displayed this way sure brings the perspective up close and personal. This is scary. If you have a job, be thankful! Be certain to click the PLAY button in the middle of the map and take note of the dates above the US map as it advances month by month! ! ! http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2010, 06:02:48 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2010, 06:03:00 PM » |
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Same Ol $hit. Yawn
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Wow!!! Very sobering and enlightening. Somebody spent a lot of time breaking this down by every county in the country. Review this Unemployment map of the United States . This is hard to believe! I had to review this map a couple of times to grasp the enormity of it. Displayed this way sure brings the perspective up close and personal. This is scary. If you have a job, be thankful! Be certain to click the PLAY button in the middle of the map and take note of the dates above the US map as it advances month by month! ! ! http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html That makes me feel sick to my stomach. I'm one of the part timers looking for a "real" job.
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Even though I have a Black Belt in Six Sigma statistical analysis, I’m not sure what this chart means. The title states “Jobs Lost”, yet the graph shows mostly negative numbers. A negative loss would normally mean that jobs are gained. This chart shows that jobs were gained at a near linear rate during the Bush Administration, and then lost at a similar rate during Obama. 
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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2010, 06:49:11 PM » |
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I copied the graph from Scanners link since he started the post. I don't have a black belt in anything, but just because some journalist reports something in a paper that gets put on the internet doesn't mean it's all together true whether it supports my position or not.
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Nearly 2 years removed & the libs are still beating the GWB dead horse.  He aint comin' back no matter how hard y'all campaign against him, it's your baby now!! 
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« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2010, 07:12:35 PM » |
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I am pretty sure that the charts I posted were ALL correct.
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« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2010, 07:13:54 PM » |
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Scanner, Lean back away from the Kool Aid and lay down that Fattie you are obviously toking on.
You are simply having a flashback and are completely out of control.
The detox center should be your next stop and welcome back to reality at that point.
So all is forgiven it is just the state you are in at this point, state of denial.
Although Barrack is asking his girls to start Baby Sitting to know what is like to earn a living.
Who says he does not create jobs, there are two right there.
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Nearly 2 years removed & the libs are still beating the GWB dead horse.  He aint comin' back no matter how hard y'all campaign against him, it's your baby now!!  Hey, when someone charges all your credit cards to the max and leaves you with the damage their crawling back under the rock doesn't pay off the bills. Sorry, but that's reality. Come visit some time! But going with your "logic", 911 was all Bushes fault - correct? I know how the wingers cried mightily that it was Clinton's fault, but no, it was Bush / Cheney alone - correct? lol, and Al, sorry, but your "credibility" is not exactly...uh...you ain't got none bro.
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« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2010, 08:13:12 PM » |
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Not your Bro.
Credibility is relative.
i come here to have a little fun and blow off steam, why do you come here.
Thanks Radical Man for your comments and have a good evening.
Fact one Obama Sucks
Hillary is laying in the weeds for him and I hope she wins.
Jobs being created is a Myth and you know it, your just being facicious aren't you Bro.
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Nearly 2 years removed & the libs are still beating the GWB dead horse.  He aint comin' back no matter how hard y'all campaign against him, it's your baby now!!  Hey, when someone charges all your credit cards to the max and leaves you with the damage their crawling back under the rock doesn't pay off the bills. Sorry, but that's reality. Come visit some time! But going with your "logic", 911 was all Bushes fault - correct? I know how the wingers cried mightily that it was Clinton's fault, but no, it was Bush / Cheney alone - correct? lol, and Al, sorry, but your "credibility" is not exactly...uh...you ain't got none bro. As to the credit card reference, I guess maxing out 10 more credit cards as the answer to the previous wrongs is the way to go????  I think I'm visiting reality fairly well! Just because we {conservatives} are critical of the present moron's actions does NOT mean we were happy with GWB's actions. We are able to look ahead a bit. Bad policies & decisions in response to past failings does not justify what is going on. It's not a baseball game where "keeping score" with another administrations performance is the answer. That is living in the real world.
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November
N, No to Nancy running the House
O, Obama said they would love you if you passed health care, now you are out of a job.
V,Very sorry Dems ain't in charge any more.
E, Exactly
M, Momma has your back, Nanny State
B, Been fun while it lasted now go home Dems.
E, Exactly
R, Return to Sender Dems go Home.
November it's coming and they know it.
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« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2010, 08:52:06 PM » |
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And because someone's "best bud" is out of work the national bureau of labor statistics is wrong?
I believe a lot of peoples "best bud" is out of work. Figures don't lie, but liars figure! I love the "Pie chart" Serk!
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Junior this is for you.
Big Al says numbers don't lie but Politicians make a living at it.
Can i get an Amen.
17% Unemployment in most of Tennessee.
17% in Harry Reeds own State of Nevada and they lead in Unemployment at this time, just passed
Michigan.
I guess people took Obama's advice and did not go to Nevada and mainly Las Vegas per our
Predsidents advice.
Under employment is rampant , due the fact people like to eat.
1 Million home forclosures this year, average is usually 100,000 .
Facts don't lie but wishful thinkers like a certain person do.
Dems are good people and so are Republicans and Independants and we need to pull together
to get people back to work cause Health Care won't do them any good if they starve.
basic principles are at work here.
Not rocket science, tax the business owners more they hire less people, less people working then you get less taxes going to
Washington, duh.
Deficits get bigger and borrowing is not a never ending stream, guess what they cut you off
after a while and then charge you higher rates after that.
Wow I must be a genius, or people are unwilling to tackle the problem head on.
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