This is a post about Radical Muslims - Not MC related

[Skinhead]

I received the following by Email, I don't really care if it is true or not, I haven't SNOPES'd, Googled, or anything elsed it, because I don't really care if it's true or not, I just liked the message and agree with the author's view.  YMMV, and your entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong it may be.


Here goes:


Thought you might like to read this letter to the editor of a British national newspaper. Ever notice how some people just seem to know how to write a letter?.
 

Here is a woman who should run for Prime Minister!


Written by a housewife, to her daily newspaper. This is one ticked off lady.

'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 11.2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?

Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day in London , and in downtown Manhattan ,  and in a field in Pennsylvania ?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11 and 7/7.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan

I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

I'll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a British soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:

I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank:

I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner - who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special food' that is paid for by my taxes - is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:

I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, believe me!! you guessed it ........

I don't care!!

If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behaviour!

If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country! And may I add:

'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world.  Our soldiers don't have that problem.'

I have another quote that I would like to add, AND.......I hope you forward all this.

Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:

1. Jesus Christ

2.  The British Soldier.

3. The Canadian Soldier.

4. The US Soldier, and

5. The Australian Soldier

One died for your soul, the other 4 for your freedom.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT ALL OF THEM.


AMEN!
 
 

[Bobbo]

I'll hit the 'Delete Button'.

[Skinhead]

As I said:

YMMV, and your entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong it may be.
 
 

[Jeff K]

I'll hit the 'Delete Button'.

Well, I am completely taken by surprise! I never would have thought that you would respond that way.

[fudgie]

Thx skinhead.  Didnt see anything wrong with it.

[Robert]

Good post but can you change the blue to yellow the blue is kind of hard on the eyes

LOL thanks Fudgie I should have thought of that 

[fudgie]

Good post but can you change the blue to yellow the blue is kind of hard on the eyes

lol I can see the blue easy. Its the yellow I cant see. I have to highlight it with my mouse! 

[ricoman]

Certainly stirring.
But-it will get no results.
people don't know, don't care and cannot be bothered.
Talking the good talk is all we do.

[AussieValk]

contoversial but correct.

down here the people have become apathetic. We have a political party called the "Greens" who are an extreme left organisation and are gaining a foothold in the decision making of government. One of their policies is to open the doors to all comers regardless of their background. Trouble is, once they're in the door it's hard to get them back out. We have been largely disarmed through gun laws, except the gangs and crims of course, so I see us as a soft target as I'm sure they do as well.

........and you think you've got problems over there!

[RP#62]

contoversial but correct.

down here the people have become apathetic. We have a political party called the "Greens" who are an extreme left organisation and are gaining a foothold in the decision making of government. One of their policies is to open the doors to all comers regardless of their background. Trouble is, once they're in the door it's hard to get them back out. We have been largely disarmed through gun laws, except the gangs and crims of course, so I see us as a soft target as I'm sure they do as well.

........and you think you've got problems over there!

The Aussies must have had their belly full of it, I read somewhere that the TEA (taxed enough already) Party has started up in Australia.
-RP

[Gear Jammer]

I'll hit the 'Delete Button'.

Well, I am completely taken by surprise! I never would have thought that you would respond that way.

Really ?      

[fstsix]

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[alph]

saddly, most people have already forgotten about 9/11.

the best way to defeat islam is to stop buying thier oil.

[AussieValk]

The Aussies must have had their belly full of it, I read somewhere that the TEA (taxed enough already) Party has started up in Australia.
-RP

I don't know about the TEA party, but we do have a SEX party............sadly though, not one candidate got in.

[Jeff K]

saddly, most people have already forgotten about 9/11.

the best way to defeat islam is to stop buying thier oil.

Agreed, lets drill for our own!!!! Mow the libs down and drill for our own damn oil!!

[Jabba]

Agreed, lets drill for our own!!!! Mow the libs down and drill for our own damn oil!!

+1.

AND let's build some Nuke plants.  Cheap electricity, and we can MAKE our own fuel.  Screw oil, let's use it for plastic, not fuel.  I agree though that for the interim, we should be drilling and harvesting what we can, but the government is spending BILLIONS, why not invest that $$ in infrastructure that'll help the situation...

NUKE PLANTS!

Jabba

[big turkey]

Muslims being radical wow what a concept.

If we did not need their stinkin oil to keep the world humming, we would not even notice them.

Let's get back to the time we did not notice them.

Take the oil lands away from them like the Romans would have and then we can all live in peace.

Well maybe.

[G-Man]

saddly, most people have already forgotten about 9/11.

the best way to defeat islam is to stop buying thier oil.

Agreed, lets drill for our own!!!! Mow the libs down and drill for our own damn oil!!

+2, +3, +4, +5, +6......................

[fuzzy2bucks]

Agreed, the best way to put the muslims back on their camels in the desert is to stop buying their oil.  I buy Conoco gas, stay away from Chavez's 7-11 commie oil.

[Serk]

stay away from Chavez's 7-11 commie oil.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6154806

[Bobbo]

I'll hit the 'Delete Button'.

Well, I am completely taken by surprise! I never would have thought that you would respond that way.

For some reason, the email chain letter gangs want to turn these attacks into religious wars.  Let’s take a sensible look at it.  All of the recent attacks using terrorist tactics have been against government institutions or commerce.  The London subway attacks were to disrupt commerce.  The Twin Towers attack was commerce.  The Pentagon attack was against a military institution, the Pennsylvania crash was allegedly aimed at the White House.  None of these were attacks against a religious establishment.

The writer’s intent was to stir up religious hatred among Christians (note the reference to Jesus as a hero) against Muslims.  That doesn't fly with me, and that is why I would hit the 'Delete button'.

PS:  My response would be similar no matter which religions were substituted for the above.

[G-Man]

I'll hit the 'Delete Button'.

Well, I am completely taken by surprise! I never would have thought that you would respond that way.

For some reason, the email chain letter gangs want to turn these attacks into religious wars.  Let’s take a sensible look at it.  All of the recent attacks using terrorist tactics have been against government institutions or commerce.  The London subway attacks were to disrupt commerce.  The Twin Towers attack was commerce.  The Pentagon attack was against a military institution, the Pennsylvania crash was allegedly aimed at the White House.  None of these were attacks against a religious establishment.

The writer’s intent was to stir up religious hatred among Christians (note the reference to Jesus as a hero) against Muslims.  That doesn't fly with me, and that is why I would hit the 'Delete button'.

PS:  My response would be similar no matter which religions were substituted for the above.

The Christmas/Underwear bomber was not an attack against commerse or an institution,...it was meant to blow up 300 people on an airplane.  The Times Square bomber meant to blowup people walking by.  Just a couple of Terrorist attacks, by radical islamists just to hurt innocent people.

I can't see defending or even giving some sort of reasoning for terrorist attacks.  Who gives a schitt what they were "aiming" for, the results are the same........innocent deaths.

[Oss]

 I hear ya Gary, but even Better yet

Make all terrorists drive Volkswagens

http://adland.tv/commercials/vw-polo-suicide-bomber-2005-45-uk

[Bobbo]

The Christmas/Underwear bomber was not an attack against commerse or an institution,...it was meant to blow up 300 people on an airplane.  The Times Square bomber meant to blowup people walking by.  Just a couple of Terrorist attacks, by radical islamists just to hurt innocent people.

I can't see defending or even giving some sort of reasoning for terrorist attacks.  Who gives a schitt what they were "aiming" for, the results are the same........innocent deaths.

Any attempt to blow up a commercial aircraft is definitely an attack on commerce.  When people are afraid to travel with airlines, interstate commerce is greatly affected.  That’s why the airlines were in financial trouble after the September attacks.  The overall economy took a hit as well.  Times Square?  That’s another center of American commerce and wealth.  As I see it, these attacks are meant to weaken our economy and force our businesses and government out of their territory.  I believe they view Western involvement in their affairs as an encroachment on their culture.

How you came to the conclusion that I am defending or justifying terrorist attacks is beyond me.  I am pointing out that they are not attacks against any particular religion and there is no reason to stoke the flames of emotion by making this a religious issue.

[Oss]

why split hairs

the operative word for me is CIVILIAN

was it a military transport a miltary base or a unit on patrol? If no then it is an attack on CIVILIANS

Is Blowing up a synagogue in Buenos Aires the only attack you would consider religious or is that commerce too  No country in the arab or muslim (pick a word you are comfortable) world went out and said that is terrible in fact nobody said jackshit about that attack.  Where is the UN then?

  How many suicide bombers blew themselves up at schools, restaurants, bus stops  waiting on lines for jobs  Where was the UN then?  

When rockets (about 3000 of them) are sent flying into Israel from Gaza, a place where no Israeli has set foot since the last round of peace talks, the ones after the kidnapping of Shalit who by the way is still prisoner with no red cross visit ever in 4 years, where was the UN  Oh yeah  partying on oil money that is where,  you gonna tell me 3000 rockets is not terrorist and an attack on commerce.

oh yeah and these rockets have no way to be aimed, like v1 and v2 rockets were just pointed north by the nazi's to land wherever they ran out of fuel.

If Iran gets the BOMB and they are getting close thanks to china and russia, our good friends, according to Obama, you aint seen nothing, we will see people vaporized here there everywhere
need I give further illustrations and I will not call anyone names if you notice

sometimes you just have to declare the thing that walks, quacks and swims a duck

[fstsix]

    "We are at war against infidels. Take this message with you, 'I ask all Islamic nations, all Muslims, all Islamic armies, and all heads of Islamic states to join the Holy War. There are many enemies to be killed or destroyed. Jihad must triumph...Muslims have no alternative... to an armed Holy War against profane governments... Holy War means the conquest of all non-Muslim territories... It will... be the duty of every able bodied adult male to volunteer for this war of conquest, the final aim of which is to put Koranic law in power from one end of the earth to the other.'" - Ayatollah Khomeini , "The U.S. is the devil on this planet." World Islamic Popular Command

    "Death to America, the Great Satan!" - Muslim mobs in Egypt, Iran, Iraq, etc.

    "Muslims must kill the enemies of Allah, in every way and everywhere in order to liberate themselves from the grandchildren of the pigs and apes who are educated at the table of the Zionists, the Communists, and the Imperialists."
    - Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman

    "The United States is a den of evil and fornication... I will show all Americans that they will not be happy if they do not follow Islam." - Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman

    "Any doubt about the need to struggle against the U.S. means being enslaved by the Great Satan, and losing the honor and the life the Islamic Revolution has brought to this country and the whole Islamic Ummah." - Ali Akbar Mohtashemi

    "It is a matter of time... In 10 years you will have quite a number of countries united under the banner of Islamic fundamentalism." - Hassan al-Turabi

    "There is fury, fury everywhere ... Islam is escalating and cannot be resisted. I pray that Allah may tear apart America just as the Soviet Union was torn apart ..." - Sheik al-Tamimi

    " wanted to topple one [tower] into the other and kill thousands to send a message to American that they were at war." - Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the blowing up of the World Trade Center

Lest you think that these statements are just a lot of wind and noise, come with me to the World Trade Center in New York City which was blown up by the disciples of Sheik Omar. Come with me to the crash sites of airplanes that were blown out of the air by Muslims. Visit the grave sites of American citizens killed by Muslim terrorists in Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait.

[Oldswimr]

  Wow, problem solved then! Just destroy all Muslims. Wait though, what do we tell those Muslim soldiers who are fighting for their country, the United States. "Geez folks, sorry about whacking your family, but hey, you being a Muslim and all.."

I wonder if there were Muslims WITHOUT animosity towards the US and her allies before the attacks began, BEFORE 9-11..Maybe.. Most likely. Are there Muslims who were devastated by these attacks. Yep, several hundred actually killed in the Towers. Good thing too, right? Man, can't be enough dead Muslims, since they're all hell bent on"destroying the Infidel".

And then who's next?

Our government is handicapping the military's ability to pursue the appropriate targets. The Exremists LOVE it when the Muslim faith is blanketed with hate from the U.S., and vica versa. You are unwittingly feeding the extremist machine with this, your hatred.

But hatred is easy, fast, doesn't take much thought. Feed it a few soundbites from the evening news, maybe a 9-11 Memorial Service broadcast, ouila' get all worked up and turn up the hate.

Personally makes me ill. And the insinuation that if we don't agree we're wrong. Says who? You? Please. You pull a bull$hit piece from the internet, don't check the source, state you don't care. Might you not take the time to AT LEAST write an original thought beyond that of "even if it's wrong"?

Now for those who don't know, I will say now that no, I am not a Muslim. I am a baptized Christian, a Patriot from The Great State of Texas. I am retired from active duty military. My father was a sailor in the Pacific in WWII, my Uncle was a Marine in the "Frozen Chosin" in Korea, and my older brother served in the Air Force during Vietnam. My son is going to college and will graduate as an officer in the Air Force. I believe in this country, I believe in it's people. I am confident that things will change in November, and more so in 2012. And I am eager for that change. But it will be for naught if all we do is approach change with, and try to fuel it with blanket hate.

No, I won't delete your post, or ignore it. At worst it indicates an attitude that needs to be explained to my kids, so they don't get caught up in it. They hear the same crap at school. At best, this discussion needs to happen.

What are your questions?

[fstsix]

What is your answer ?, Is it the Person or the book they read that is a problem ? is your reply in general or to a certain member ? I got the answer Christian lets compare notes......you first..................

[Skinhead]

I'll hit the 'Delete Button'.

Well, I am completely taken by surprise! I never would have thought that you would respond that way.

For some reason, the email chain letter gangs want to turn these attacks into religious wars.  Let’s take a sensible look at it.  All of the recent attacks using terrorist tactics have been against government institutions or commerce.  The London subway attacks were to disrupt commerce.  The Twin Towers attack was commerce.  The Pentagon attack was against a military institution, the Pennsylvania crash was allegedly aimed at the White House.  None of these were attacks against a religious establishment.

The writer’s intent was to stir up religious hatred among Christians (note the reference to Jesus as a hero) against Muslims.  That doesn't fly with me, and that is why I would hit the 'Delete button'.

PS:  My response would be similar no matter which religions were substituted for the above.

I don't give a rat's ass about the writer's intent.  You are missing the big picture.  The radical muslims have declared jihad (holy war) against us.  Regardless of what targets they attacked, INNOCENT people died!  That is the point!  You can rationalize it any way it makes you feel good.  I PERSONALLY HATE THEM, YES I KNOW HATE IS A STRONG WORD, but I cannot condone what they did, and until all the so called mainstream muslims denounce the radical muslims, I will lump them together in one group.  I really don't care what liberal label you use to describe me (racist, islamaphobe, boob (I am kinda partial to boobs) or what have you) That is how I feel, and I live in a some what free country where last time I checked, I was well within my rights to feel that way. 

[Skinhead]

I hear ya Gary, but even Better yet

Make all terrorists drive Volkswagens

http://adland.tv/commercials/vw-polo-suicide-bomber-2005-45-uk

+1

[Skinhead]

Wow, problem solved then! Just destroy all Muslims. Wait though, what do we tell those Muslim soldiers who are fighting for their country, the United States. "Geez folks, sorry about whacking your family, but hey, you being a Muslim and all.."

I wonder if there were Muslims WITHOUT animosity towards the US and her allies before the attacks began, BEFORE 9-11..Maybe.. Most likely. Are there Muslims who were devastated by these attacks. Yep, several hundred actually killed in the Towers. Good thing too, right? Man, can't be enough dead Muslims, since they're all hell bent on"destroying the Infidel".

And then who's next?

Our government is handicapping the military's ability to pursue the appropriate targets. The Exremists LOVE it when the Muslim faith is blanketed with hate from the U.S., and vica versa. You are unwittingly feeding the extremist machine with this, your hatred.

But hatred is easy, fast, doesn't take much thought. Feed it a few soundbites from the evening news, maybe a 9-11 Memorial Service broadcast, ouila' get all worked up and turn up the hate.

Personally makes me ill. And the insinuation that if we don't agree we're wrong. Says who? You? Please. You pull a bull$hit piece from the internet, don't check the source, state you don't care. Might you not take the time to AT LEAST write an original thought beyond that of "even if it's wrong"?

Now for those who don't know, I will say now that no, I am not a Muslim. I am a baptized Christian, a Patriot from The Great State of Texas. I am retired from active duty military. My father was a sailor in the Pacific in WWII, my Uncle was a Marine in the "Frozen Chosin" in Korea, and my older brother served in the Air Force during Vietnam. My son is going to college and will graduate as an officer in the Air Force. I believe in this country, I believe in it's people. I am confident that things will change in November, and more so in 2012. And I am eager for that change. But it will be for naught if all we do is approach change with, and try to fuel it with blanket hate.

No, I won't delete your post, or ignore it. At worst it indicates an attitude that needs to be explained to my kids, so they don't get caught up in it. They hear the same crap at school. At best, this discussion needs to happen.

What are your questions?

I posted that I did not check the source, because I know that the original post was, A FABRICATION.  Sorry you missed that point.

I only denounce Radical muslim terrorists, I have no animosity toward those of any religion/culture/whathaveyou that denounce RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORISTS.

I realize the email I posted was bullshite, but it I can identify with the authors intent.  I DON'T care what you think, that is why I stated it, I was merely exercising my constitutional right to free speech, because in the state of MI you have to pay a tax to exercise your right to bear arms, and this is one of the few remaining constitutional rights you can exercise at no cost.  

I don't believe any one on this board wants harm to befall peaceful muslims, I just question how many there are of that persuasion.  They want us to be tolerant but are intolerant toward infidels.  Until they demonstrate tolerance, I will not trust them.

Questions?

[woody]

I with you Aussie valk;
I live in Central NSW, the greens capital of Australia.
The do gooders are always bleating about how some minority group or another is hard done by.
"We should support the refugees"
"We should stop the war on Terror"
"we should accept the different religion"

Who is this WE?

And now we are giving compensation for putting them in detention centres while we check them out.
An average $100,000.00.

Im seriously thinking of flying to the Bali, burning my passport and catching a boat back to Australia.
I could do with the cash, free housing, dole payemnts, establishment fees and free health and education for me and my kids.

What a crock.
We accept them (after we ensure they will not kill us) and they thank us by sueing us.

[Sludge]

Bobbo, you intellectualize alot and and at times I see your point or even agree with you.  However,  I have to  call ya on this one...

Any attempt to blow up a commercial aircraft is definitely an attack on commerce.

Oh it effects commerce, ... sure... but they ALL are killing innocent ppl.  Im a Christian, but if they are killing innocent ppl no matter the religion... put them in front of me and I WILL send them to their maker.   They are after BLOOD.  Disruption of commerce is just icing on the cake.

[G-Man]

Bobbo, you intellectualize alot and and at times I see your point or even agree with you.  However,  I have to  call ya on this one...

Any attempt to blow up a commercial aircraft is definitely an attack on commerce.

Oh it effects commerce, ... sure... but they ALL are killing innocent ppl.  Im a Christian, but if they are killing innocent ppl no matter the religion... put them in front of me and I WILL send them to their maker.   They are after BLOOD.  Disruption of commerce is just icing on the cake.

I believe it is both.  They go for blood because they know how well it horrifies us, because we place respect and love on human life, while the radical muslims place NO respect or love on human life.  Death is used as a tool to disrupt us emotionally.  I believe the other half of their equation is to get inside of the fabric of what our country is and exploit the weaknesses.  They have already disrupted commerce, sure there were moronic governmental decisions that helped in the disruption along the way, but we've been on a monetary rollercoaster since 9/11 (several bubbles, oil prices, etc.).  Now they are going after our policies from the local to the federal levels.  We are no longer basing decisions on what we believe to be right and wrong, we base them on what terrorists will think and how they might react.  The mere threat of one idiot to burn a koran lead to weeks of media hysteria and US bashing, flag burning, bible burning, and people getting hurt all over the arab world.  This idiot got calls from the state dept., got the president, sec. of state, and an army general to weigh in on the burning of a book.  If this doesn't tell you that radical islamic terrorists have grabbed hold of us and squeezing, you're blind.   

I posted that I thought the terrorists had won and got several flames thrown at me, yet nobody provided evidence to the contrary.  I still say that as long as OUR policies and decisions are based on how terrorists, who need no, or, the most miniscule of provocation, are going react, we've lost.

[Bobbo]

Bobbo, you intellectualize alot and and at times I see your point or even agree with you.  However,  I have to  call ya on this one...

Any attempt to blow up a commercial aircraft is definitely an attack on commerce.

Oh it effects commerce, ... sure... but they ALL are killing innocent ppl.  Im a Christian, but if they are killing innocent ppl no matter the religion... put them in front of me and I WILL send them to their maker.   They are after BLOOD.  Disruption of commerce is just icing on the cake.

Al-Qaeda’s stated goal is to drive out Western countries’ influence and business from Islamic countries.  They believe that a Judeo-Christian conspiracy is trying to destroy Islam by “Westernizing” the Middle East.  They see our wealth and freedoms as a corrupt influence on their people, and are using our freedoms to destroy our wealth.  Basically, they believe that if we are broke, we will leave them alone.

G-man is correct in that Al-Qaeda has undermined some of our freedoms, and has us spending a lot of money on wars and bailouts.  In that respect they have succeeded in one of their goals.

The goal of terrorism is to make people afraid of everything, and even suspicious of others.  That has only one end- to weaken us by destroying commerce.

[fstsix]

Bobbo, you intellectualize alot and and at times I see your point or even agree with you.  However,  I have to  call ya on this one...

Any attempt to blow up a commercial aircraft is definitely an attack on commerce.

Oh it effects commerce, ... sure... but they ALL are killing innocent ppl.  Im a Christian, but if they are killing innocent ppl no matter the religion... put them in front of me and I WILL send them to their maker.   They are after BLOOD.  Disruption of commerce is just icing on the cake.

I believe it is both.  They go for blood because they know how well it horrifies us, because we place respect and love on human life, while the radical muslims place NO respect or love on human life.  Death is used as a tool to disrupt us emotionally.  I believe the other half of their equation is to get inside of the fabric of what our country is and exploit the weaknesses.  They have already disrupted commerce, sure there were moronic governmental decisions that helped in the disruption along the way, but we've been on a monetary rollercoaster since 9/11 (several bubbles, oil prices, etc.).  Now they are going after our policies from the local to the federal levels.  We are no longer basing decisions on what we believe to be right and wrong, we base them on what terrorists will think and how they might react.  The mere threat of one idiot to burn a koran lead to weeks of media hysteria and US bashing, flag burning, bible burning, and people getting hurt all over the arab world.  This idiot got calls from the state dept., got the president, sec. of state, and an army general to weigh in on the burning of a book.  If this doesn't tell you that radical islamic terrorists have grabbed hold of us and squeezing, you're blind.   

I posted that I thought the terrorists had won and got several flames thrown at me, yet nobody provided evidence to the contrary.  I still say that as long as OUR policies and decisions are based on how terrorists, who need no, or, the most miniscule of provocation, are going react, we've lost.

With this currant Administration your are right Gman, They know the Liberals have little confidence, and their God is Money and power,....they smell the fear and are playing The Progressives like a fiddle, Political correction is, and has been what they are using against us and are laughing every time they claim to get a fat lip from our Military, My hope is let the Investigations start when Congress is swayed back this November and start Exposing all that has been Ignored by this President and push the Audit of the federal reserve, Bring back Ken Star and and Expose all these phonies including the President!!