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« on: November 24, 2010, 08:33:37 AM » |
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anyone know where i can get one of those kickstand "pads" for a stock Valk kickstand...to make the bike stand up a bit taller? I'm about ready to give up making this "custom" kickstand work...as i just can't seem to get a spring of the RIGHT length to make it retract/stay up properly! i've bought almost $75 worth of springs...tried modifying them, etc....A LOT OF WORK!!!!!!!!! But in the end, i just can't seem to get a spring to work (this custom taller kicktand requires a different lenght spring than a stock spring).
so, my plan B ...is to go back to the stock kickstand...and find one of those "pads" that attaches to the bottom of the foot of the stand. So, anyone able to help a fella' out? It's for Sherry's bike....the stock kickstand just lets the bike lean over to far...making it hard for her to lift the bike up. It leans over noticebaly more than my bike....sitting right next to it...forks turned the same way. yes, i've checked for bent frame/kickstand/etc.
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 08:46:05 AM » |
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If it has taller rear shocks it will stand up taller. I have 1" over in length than the stock shocks and the bike sits taller. Sorry no help with the pad.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 08:51:51 AM » |
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why not weld a piece onto the bottom?
You could have it plug welded on the bottom so it wouldn't show when the stand is down. You could make the pad any size/thickness you want. It can be spray painted black and you'll never see it when it's supporting the bike.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 08:53:04 AM » |
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bike is stock...stock shocks. Nope, we've ruled out ANY possible cause. The bikes are IDENTICAL...stock. Just for some reason, her bike leans WAY over compared to mine and most others (I've seen this in a few other Valks). So, pad for kickstand???????????
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 08:53:48 AM » |
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why not weld a piece onto the bottom?
You could have it plug welded on the bottom so it wouldn't show when the stand is down. You could make the pad any size/thickness you want.
now there's an idea. I have a guy nearby who welds...i could ask him......
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 09:24:24 AM » |
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The Rivco sidestand pads are among the discontinued items for the Valkyrie; if you can locate one, consider yourself lucky. If not, I seem to recall reading about someone successfully adapating (with some "persuasion") a similar Honda VTX accessory onto their OEM sidestand. Spirited-6, perhaps? Don, was that you? Terry
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2010, 09:24:33 AM » |
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Tim-Bob, what you are referring to is the Rivco unit. Don't make them no more so watch the evil-bay if that is what ya want.
Call me and I'll tell ya how to have her get the bike up off the stand easier.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2010, 11:02:54 AM » |
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Another idea would be to get a piece of 3/4' or 1' aluminum (or wood), cut it to the shape of the kickstand foot and mount it with two 1/4-20 bolts. Stands the bike up just right. have done it twice now. I drilled through and put the bolts in from the top, countersunk the nuts into the new foot so the stand rests on the new material, not on the nuts. It is hard stuff to drill. Not sure how it would look if a piece was welded on-the chrome would be gone.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2010, 11:41:57 AM » |
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The Rivco sidestand pads are among the discontinued items for the Valkyrie; if you can locate one, consider yourself lucky. If not, I seem to recall reading about someone successfully adapating (with some "persuasion") a similar Honda VTX accessory onto their OEM sidestand. Spirited-6, perhaps? Don, was that you? Terry
Yes Terry, it was me. You were right, a pad for a VTX will work. But you need to grind a little off side stand. I did that with a DEMEL. Does not take much to make it fit and you need to touch-up to keep from rusting. Does help a lot in raising bike off sidestand.  And it`s CHROME !
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2010, 01:21:48 PM » |
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If it has taller rear shocks it will stand up taller. I have 1" over in length than the stock shocks and the bike sits taller. Sorry no help with the pad.
Ok, maybe it's been too busy of a week for me and I can't understand but what do you mean by "stand up taller"? To me to stand taller means more upright, which would make it easier to stand up. If you put taller shocks wouldn't that make it lean over more on the stand? RJ, Could you fill me in, and maybe others, how to get these bikes off the stand easier too? When I got my bike it leaned way over, previous owner said a guy in a truck backed into the bike in the front when it was on the kickstand. I guess that bent that flimsy bracket. I replaced the original stand with a complete assy from a triked bike and it was better but still over too much so I shimed between the bracket and frame as much as possible (bolt lenght) which made it better but it could come up a tad bit more.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2010, 02:23:39 PM » |
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Not sure how it would look if a piece was welded on-the chrome would be gone.
that's why I suggested a plug weld from the bottom....
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2010, 02:39:14 PM » |
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This may be one way to alleviate the problem.
Take her stand off and swap it for yours.
The mount and all, just the chrome part would make no difference at all.
Simple and would do no damage.
If it works, that would fix your problem.
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 02:50:12 PM » |
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Another way to fix the problem is to cut a wedge of thick wall pipe and loosen the kickstand, put it under the out side bolt, you have to experment with the length but it works great i did it to one of my interstates, will do it to the tour i have when i get the time, If you measure the stand with it down on a lift then measure it after the install you will be able to tell how far the stand has moved.
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 04:09:41 PM » |
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If it has taller rear shocks it will stand up taller. I have 1" over in length than the stock shocks and the bike sits taller. Sorry no help with the pad.
Ok, maybe it's been too busy of a week for me and I can't understand but what do you mean by "stand up taller"? To me to stand taller means more upright, which would make it easier to stand up. If you put taller shocks wouldn't that make it lean over more on the stand? RJ, Could you fill me in, and maybe others, how to get these bikes off the stand easier too? When I got my bike it leaned way over, previous owner said a guy in a truck backed into the bike in the front when it was on the kickstand. I guess that bent that flimsy bracket. I replaced the original stand with a complete assy from a triked bike and it was better but still over too much so I shimed between the bracket and frame as much as possible (bolt lenght) which made it better but it could come up a tad bit more. Bike on side stand leaned over. Straddle bike turn front wheel all the way to the right. grab handlebars in the new location and lean her up. Sounds stupid, but that was how we had to get the Boss Hoss off the stand. Abuddy of mine used to do that with his Yamaha. He was a short light weight and didn't have too muh omp in his britches.
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 07:07:23 PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 08:38:45 PM » |
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That is the same design that Rivco had....... Might grab one and see if you can mount it. Maybe have to do some dremel work on the actual foot of the kickstand. I remember I had to grind mine a little and get the bigger hammer out to get in the proper place, then I set the set screw and then stuck some Gorrilla glue in it to maybe hold it a little longer.
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2010, 05:26:02 AM » |
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Rivco for a VTX 1800. Cost about $50. Just grind a little metal off of each side of the Valk side stand foot & slide it on. Tighten the set screws & you are done.  Really helps with the "97 Valk lean". 
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2010, 06:33:19 AM » |
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I maybe a little late to this dance but have you looked into a GoldWing kickstand? I think that they stand up a little taller.
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2010, 07:33:23 PM » |
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I made my own pad. A couple of pieces of 3/8 plate welded together for the bottom 1/8 inch angle over the top of the stand . A couple of set screws to hold it in place All from stuff I had laying around my shop.
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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2010, 08:28:01 PM » |
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I made my own pad. A couple of pieces of 3/8 plate welded together for the bottom 1/8 inch angle over the top of the stand . A couple of set screws to hold it in place All from stuff I had laying around my shop.
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2010, 10:39:43 PM » |
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bike is stock...stock shocks. Nope, we've ruled out ANY possible cause. The bikes are IDENTICAL...stock. Just for some reason, her bike leans WAY over compared to mine and most others (I've seen this in a few other Valks). So, pad for kickstand???????????
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2010, 01:52:37 AM » |
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why not weld a piece onto the bottom?
You could have it plug welded on the bottom so it wouldn't show when the stand is down. You could make the pad any size/thickness you want.
now there's an idea. I have a guy nearby who welds...i could ask him...... Just a suggestion, take the kick stand off your cycle when you weld it. I have heard of auto computers getting fried whenever someone welds on a car frame. An ounce of prevention….. you know the rest. Al.
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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2010, 05:05:50 AM » |
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Is Sherrie's bike a '97? I have seen lots of '97 models including mine that lean more on the kickstand than other year models. That is why I installed the Rivco foot. Before the new "foot" my '97 leaned over quite a bit more than Kim's '98 or any other non-'97 I saw. With the Rivco pad installed it still leans over a bit more than the others. As far as the welding on your bike issue, I have welded numerous times on all the Valks with no problems at all. Welded a new rear tank mount nut, car horn bracket mounts etc. Did unhook the battery however.
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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2010, 08:52:14 AM » |
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I have one that I no longer use. you are welcome to it if it will help you out. I used it until I added shorter shocks on the rear. The stand will make a big difference. Contact me and I can get it sent out to you.
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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2010, 06:46:22 AM » |
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hers is 98.....and it leans considerably more than mine...and mine is a 97. you can look at em' side by side and see the difference...it's that much.........
Bent kickstand mount? Not sure, but it doesn't look so to me........but i'll admit, i'm NOT an expert mechanic....so....i might be missing something?
i do know the longer kickstand i got from Mike at Valk Bling...is PERFECT on the lean. Just tired of fighting with getting a spring to work....since stock spring won't work...
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