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« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2011, 08:44:57 AM » |
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Nobody has mentioned the idiot that sees you coming up on him from the right lane while he is tooling around in the left lane and speeds up so you cannot get around him and almost puts you into the slower traffic infront of you. Stay in the right lane and pa :cooldude:ss in the left.
How do you make someone drive faster?
Try to pass them!
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« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2011, 10:00:56 AM » |
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I'm not going to vote for or against this debate, but do find something interesting.......... Limit means exactly that the limit or most allowed. Why do some feel as long as they are 10 over the limit they can sit there as judge of whats acceptable and control someone from doing 20 over the limit without being a jerk. What gives them the right as they are BOTH over the LIMIT. just saying.........  I think it was Gallagher that once said "anyone driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone driving faster is a maniac"! 
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« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2011, 10:20:06 AM » |
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I'm not going to vote for or against this debate, but do find something interesting.......... Limit means exactly that the limit or most allowed. Why do some feel as long as they are 10 over the limit they can sit there as judge of whats acceptable and control someone from doing 20 over the limit without being a jerk. What gives them the right as they are BOTH over the LIMIT. just saying.........  I think it was Gallagher that once said "anyone driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone driving faster is a maniac"!  Loved Gallagher for a while back then! But what was that crappola about selling/giving the act to his not-so-look-alike bother? Was it a bit or was it for real? If your act is a one man act, then YOU ARE the act. Weird. 
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« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2011, 10:57:55 AM » |
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However if a jacka$$ gets right on my bumper and I'm going the speed limit (or not) he will be in for a long wait to get by.
But what if that "jacka$$" has an emergency in his vehicle, or is heading to an emergency crime or accident scene. The fact that he is on your bumper is all the more reason you should get out of the LEFT lane as, again, you are the slower moving vehicle. Would it make you feel good to know that because you needed to prove something, critical care was detained to save someone's life, because you needed to give him a long wait to get by.
Wow, how selfish can you be?
If someone is coming up on me from behind, I do what I can to get out of their way. I don't know why they are moving that fast, nor do I need to. This person needs/wants to get somewhere in a hurry and it is not my responsibility to teach him a lesson or slow him down. I also don't want to put me, my passengers, or my car/bike in danger by someone tailing me too closely as reaction time decreases as distance decreases. The bad outcome is not worth giving someone a long wait to get byWow! You are just hung up on this “emergency” thing aren’t you? I would assume, such as you’re doing here, that if there was a vehicle in an emergency situation the drivers would have their flashers on, flashing the headlights, sounding the horn, etc… Or at least that’s what I’d be doing if, as you say, my son fell off his bike and split his head open. I wouldn’t just expect people to move out of the way just because I’m tailgating their bumper. And you don’t need to “assume” I’m selfish. I assume, here since that’s what we’re doing, that I’m probably one of the most least selfish people you’ve ever had contact with
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« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2011, 12:11:00 PM » |
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« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2011, 12:15:03 PM » |
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Up here we say 'they must be from michigan'.  If your talking about them riding your butt tailgating? you got that right fugie,my wife is from detroit and when ever we go back their it's like that! 
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« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2011, 12:19:19 PM » |
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You have it all WRONG - it is not passing lanes or fast lanes --- from right to left it is : 1. Exiting now lane 2. Exiting in a little while 3. going farther 4. going farther still Nothing at all to do with speed or passing or silly things like laws or politeness (Just based on observation ya know  - after all I am a furiner dowm here )
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« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2011, 12:21:51 PM » |
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If someone is going faster than you, no matter what speed, YOU ARE THE SLOWER MOVING TRAFFIC, so you should be in the right lane. +1  Car or bike comes up behind me in the left lane I just automatically move over when safe,just habit. +1
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« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2011, 12:22:58 PM » |
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You have it all WRONG - it is not passing lanes or fast lanes --- from right to left it is : 1. Exiting now lane 2. Exiting in a little while 3. going farther 4. going farther still Nothing at all to do with speed or passing or silly things like laws or politeness (Just based on observation ya know  - after all I am a furiner dowm here ) Are we there yet? 
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« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2011, 12:33:19 PM » |
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You have it all WRONG - it is not passing lanes or fast lanes --- from right to left it is : 1. Exiting now lane 2. Exiting in a little while 3. going farther 4. going farther still Nothing at all to do with speed or passing or silly things like laws or politeness (Just based on observation ya know  - after all I am a furiner dowm here ) My favorite is the driver who is "going farther still" until the last second, then becomes "Exiting now". 
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« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2011, 01:40:09 PM » |
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And you don’t need to “assume” I’m selfish. I assume, here since that’s what we’re doing, that I’m probably one of the most least selfish people you’ve ever had contact with
What would you think of this quote if it wasn't you who wrote it? "give him a long wait to get by". I'm sure you're not selfish, but your outlook on road courtesy sure is. Why intentionall block someone from passing? he's following close to let you know he wants to pass you, but you'll give him a long wait to do so. Why? Who are you?
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« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2011, 05:32:51 AM » |
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There are folks that stay in the left lane for miles. i usually ride their butt and most realize the need to get over. On the valk I stay mostly in the left, cause i'm passing folks any way.  G-man is right. Hell we have lights on and blowing the air horn and they stay in the left. The other night we were in the left, passing, and he decides to move left in front of us. We had enought room to pass on the right but we kinda forced him over left alittle bit further.  I do ride in the left lane at night if there are no cars. I 'think' it gives me more room to see critters.
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« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2011, 08:03:05 AM » |
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And you don’t need to “assume” I’m selfish. I assume, here since that’s what we’re doing, that I’m probably one of the most least selfish people you’ve ever had contact with
What would you think of this quote if it wasn't you who wrote it? "give him a long wait to get by". I'm sure you're not selfish, but your outlook on road courtesy sure is. Why intentionall block someone from passing? he's following close to let you know he wants to pass you, but you'll give him a long wait to do so. Why? Who are you?Huh!?! Are you a car salesman? Or work for a political news organization like CNN or Fox? Seeing as you're using only part of my responses. Below is the full statement: "If someone pulls up behind me and gives that "distance of respect" (a few car lengths) I will see my way to pull over and let him by. However if a jacka$$ gets right on my bumper and I'm going the speed limit (or not) he will be in for a long wait to get by." I guess I need to expain further: Meaning if the Jacka$$ doesn't show me respect, by riding my bumper, I will return the favor. Not that I will go out of my way to mess with him but I will not make any extra effort to get out of his way. Now this is barring there are no horns, flashing lights, etc... as I stated previously. And on the other hand I've pulled over on the shoulder to let people pass on a two lane road although I'm travling the speed limit because they gave that "respectable distance".
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« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2011, 10:29:26 AM » |
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Slower drivers should be in the right lanes!! So what do you consider "slower drivers"? People going below the posted speed limit or not going as fast as you want to go? If ya gotta ask that question, then ya prolly belong in the right lane... I'd say slower drivers are those going slower than the rest of traffic, regardless of the speed limit. Doing 70 when everyone else is doing 80, or vice-versa, creates a dangerous situation. People should worry more about staying with traffic then doing the posted speed limit. Faster, slower, doesn't matter.
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« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2011, 10:40:13 AM » |
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Slower drivers should be in the right lanes!! So what do you consider "slower drivers"? People going below the posted speed limit or not going as fast as you want to go? For me, speed relative to the speed limit is totally irrelevant... I don't care if you're going 100 over the limit, if there's not a vehicle moving from in front of you to behind you on your right, move to the right. Simple as that. Ok, for me, as a law abiding citizen the speed limit is as fast as you should travel. Therefore if you are going the speed limit you are "fast" and anyone not traveling the speed limit is "slow" traffic and needs to be in the right lane. That's simple. Now if you desire to be a lawbreaker and travel faster, then you need to pick and choose around the rest of the law abiding drivers. But don't be a jerk and expect people to get out of your way just cause you don't want to abide by the law. The number one cause of accidents is incorrect speed. That doesn't mean a speed other than the posted speed limit, it means the wrong speed for road conditions. If everyone else on the freeway is happily doing 5-10 mph over the speed limit, and you refuse to keep up 'cuz you think you're staying to the letter of the law, you're creating a bottleneck and a dangerous situation for yourself and everyone else around you. Remember, it's not your responsibility or right to sherriff the road. If you're doing the posted limit, then you're probably not passing anybody, so you should never be in the passing lane, anyway. Keep up with traffic or move over.
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« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2011, 06:22:13 PM » |
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How about a spring loaded bolling ball poping out of the trunk of a gold wing when he is being tailgated
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« Reply #57 on: April 03, 2011, 04:47:54 AM » |
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Slower drivers should be in the right lanes!! So what do you consider "slower drivers"? People going below the posted speed limit or not going as fast as you want to go? For me, speed relative to the speed limit is totally irrelevant... I don't care if you're going 100 over the limit, if there's not a vehicle moving from in front of you to behind you on your right, move to the right. Simple as that. Ok, for me, as a law abiding citizen the speed limit is as fast as you should travel. Therefore if you are going the speed limit you are "fast" and anyone not traveling the speed limit is "slow" traffic and needs to be in the right lane. That's simple. Now if you desire to be a lawbreaker and travel faster, then you need to pick and choose around the rest of the law abiding drivers. But don't be a jerk and expect people to get out of your way just cause you don't want to abide by the law. Another meathead. Could get out of the way to let other people do it the way they want, but a sense of self righteousness tells them they have the right to block others because they are not driving the way you think they should be driving. But don't worry TB, I accept the fact that there will always be meatheads, more concerned with being an ideologue than being a realist.
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« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2011, 06:06:05 AM » |
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Slower drivers should be in the right lanes!! So what do you consider "slower drivers"? People going below the posted speed limit or not going as fast as you want to go? For me, speed relative to the speed limit is totally irrelevant... I don't care if you're going 100 over the limit, if there's not a vehicle moving from in front of you to behind you on your right, move to the right. Simple as that. Ok, for me, as a law abiding citizen the speed limit is as fast as you should travel. Therefore if you are going the speed limit you are "fast" and anyone not traveling the speed limit is "slow" traffic and needs to be in the right lane. That's simple. Now if you desire to be a lawbreaker and travel faster, then you need to pick and choose around the rest of the law abiding drivers. But don't be a jerk and expect people to get out of your way just cause you don't want to abide by the law. Another meathead. Could get out of the way to let other people do it the way they want, but a sense of self righteousness tells them they have the right to block others because they are not driving the way you think they should be driving. But don't worry TB, I accept the fact that there will always be meatheads, more concerned with being an ideologue than being a realist. Wow SE, what's with the name calling?? Just because someones opinion differs from yours you revert to a 4th grade mentality? I suggest that you re-read (maybe in your case - read) the section called "Rules of the Road".
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« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2011, 09:04:19 AM » |
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I'm kinda new here but there is always room to disagree and there is never a reason not to be courteous.
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« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2011, 01:25:19 PM » |
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I love the parasites who use me as their cruise control. I'm tooling along, cross country, doing 10 over (or so), and these yahoos latch onto my bumper, increasing risk to me and my passengers. Speed up, slow down, doesn't matter, these yahoos will stay back there - 200-300 miles. Blocking my rear view. About the time I accept them back there, it will be a cop who has swapped places with them, and clocked me. Annoys me I have to either REALLY speed up to lose them, thereby driving faster than I want to, or I have to slow way down and pull into a lane of traffic to get them to adopt someone else. Then, 20 miles later, I go ahead and pick it back up, pass the idiot and his new host, and he drops his new host and has latched onto me again.
I refer to them as "pace cars", since they keep pace with whatever you're doing. It's usually someone who is distracted, not really paying attention to his speed. Since he's not using either his spedometer, or the trees going by, he'll use you as a visual cue. Most times, the only true way to shake them loose is to decide it's time for a fuel stop. Otherwise, you play tag with them all day long. (Of course, I've had some I was wondering if he'd pull over and get fuel with me, since he was doing everything else that I did: speed changes, lane changes, etc...)
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« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2011, 03:02:03 PM » |
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Well, lets see, if it’s certain parts of New Mexico it might be because it is the only lane which will not turn their family jewels into jelly or grind their teeth into pulp. If it’s around Chicago it’s because there is less chance of getting swallowed up in one of their pot holes and if it’s here in Arizona it’s because most do not know how to shoot left handed. Next question!
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« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2011, 08:11:33 PM » |
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I am not saying I agree with them, but I can live with them as long as they are doing the speed limit. To me it is a minor issue to go around them. (unless you are in a laarge truck)
MY PET PEEVE: The mutton heads that enter the freeway from an on ramp doing 10-15 MPH slower that he posted limit, then pull in front of you without even looking, forcing you to hit your brakes.
THEN, it never fails, you finally get around them and two miles later they are tail gating you wanting to pass.
Jim
ah the story of my life, that too is one of my pet peeves, the other would be when they fly around you only to then stand on the brakes so they can hit the next exit (congrats dufus, you saved a whole two seconds) I get it, they don't want to be behind a big rig but they need to use that mellon on top of thier neck for something besides a hat rack. my personal fav is someone merging on and i cant move over because of traffic and they flip me off, I'm sorry I didn't know I was in the way of the king of the road 
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« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2011, 12:59:00 AM » |
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Don't blame the drivers, 95% of them were taught to drive in that lane by their Driver's Ed teacher.
Driver's Ed Teachers need to go to school more and keep current with how to drive.
RJ you are absolutely right!! My daughter had a drivers ed teacher that actually bragged to the class that he had 8, count ‘em, 8 tickets in one year!! Then, get this!! Another teacher told my daughter that if a stop sign has a white outline, it is an optional stop!! Meaning, that if it’s clear from both directions you don’t have to stop!!! My favorite driver is the a-hole that rides in the left lane, and then flies over the right lane to take the exit!! Sometimes they signal….. As for those idiots that park in the left lane, who cares? I’ll pass you anyway I can, if you’re in the left lane, I’ll pass you on the right, most times they’re on their cell phones not paying attention to what’s going on around them anyway….. I’ll end with this; my all time favorite idiot behind the wheel, my wife saw it also so I’ve got a witness. We came up to a stop light and there was a woman talking on a cell phone, smoking a cigarette, while also holding a burger, driving a stick shift!!! Now that’s talent.
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« Reply #64 on: April 05, 2011, 07:42:11 AM » |
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I’ll pass you anyway I can, if you’re in the left lane, I’ll pass you on the right, most times they’re on their cell phones not paying attention to what’s going on around them anyway…..
Years ago, when the nation first went to 55, and I lived in MI, everyone just kept going 70. So these righteous people began buddying up to block traffic... two little economy cars driving side by side up I-75 holding back hundreds of cars. Being young and dumb, with an attitude, I just drove my '67 Dodge van out into the center median, in the grass, about 70, and passed. Then got back over into the left lane and braked down to 30 and broke up the moving roadblock. As cars began moving thru, I got thumbs up and cheers from all. Except the lady in the economy car behind me appeared to be cursing and saying unkind things. LOL
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