Next best weapon?

[designer]

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Are you guys saying that you would not dare ride around in your own Country unarmed, do you really carry evertime you ride ? How many bad guys have you had to gun down and where do you bury them all ??? 
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This is hard to explain to someone that's may not of remembered or gave up thier rights to defend themselves.  But your either a sheep dog or the sheep when the wolves come.  Its a matter of personal choice and the right to make that choice. 

[judd]

This is hard to explain to someone that's may not of remembered or gave up thier rights to defend themselves.  But your either a sheep dog or the sheep when the wolves come.  Its a matter of personal choice and the right to make that choice.  

Agreed, we Canadians were robbed of our right to defend ourselves long ago, I'm not against firearms or anyone packing for that matter. If ever given the right to pack, come to think of it, I believe I would, just as I carry raingear, a plug kit, tire pump and tools in the event of such situations.       But that is not going to happen any time soon and I'm damn sure not going to let that stop me from riding wherever I choose.  Be it here or the States for that matter.   I stand by the belief that it is just not that bad of situation here in Canada to warrant worrying about it. 

[designer]

Judd, we agree

I have the right to carry, and I do on occasion whether I feel threatened or not.  I don't so often on my bike because of the restriction on restaurants and a secure place to lock it.  But I can if I want.  If I ride to Canada in the country I might want to carry due to the wooded distances between towns and the more common wildlife.  It is a choice that I take serious and that I respect others who choose not to. 

I'm no more afraid of canadians then I am Americans when it comes to travels.  except during hockey finals and NCAA finals..... now that's crazy scary!!

[fudgie]

Saying stay out of bad areas is a false sence of security. Crime happens in upscale areas to. How do you know you are in a bad area if you are not from there? Who woulda thought I'd get shot at on my own property 10 yrs ago. No me. As to say having a gun lessens the senses is wrong to. Tell me 1 gun carrier that is not aware of his surrondings.
I carry everywhere. Even where its not allowed.  The ol lady even carries. Nothing hotter then a chic wearing a revolver as she puts on her morning make up in the bathroom.  I always carry when I ride. When I can, I avoid helmet & no gun States.
We have 1 murder in my town every year. Shootings are rare. Bar fights every weekend. I dont want to be part of either, well a good bar fight maybe.  We all have a 50/50 chance of being killed. I'd like to try and level the playing field.
Guns dont scare me....no guns scare me. 

[designer]

We have 1 murder in my town every year. Shootings are rare. Bar fights every weekend. I dont want to be part of either, well a good bar fight maybe.  We all have a 50/50 chance of being killed. I'd like to try and level the playing field.
Guns dont scare me....no guns scare me. 

Well, the actual statistics I seen was more like 6 in 100,000 for murder and 4 in 1000 for assault in the US. But I get your point Fudgie.  Better to be a sheepdog than a sheep.

[Madmike]

Judd, we agree

I have the right to carry, and I do on occasion whether I feel threatened or not.  I don't so often on my bike because of the restriction on restaurants and a secure place to lock it.  But I can if I want.  If I ride to Canada in the country I might want to carry due to the wooded distances between towns and the more common wildlife.  It is a choice that I take serious and that I respect others who choose not to. 

I'm no more afraid of canadians then I am Americans when it comes to travels.  except during hockey finals and NCAA finals..... now that's crazy scary!!

... carry a hockey stick.......

[MarkT]

Are you guys saying that you would not dare ride around in your own Country unarmed, do you really carry evertime you ride ? How many bad guys have you had to gun down and where do you bury them all ???  

Can't speak for everyone, just for me, but I think many think similarly:

I don't carry every time I ride.  I carry EVERYWHERE.  Except where it is specifically proscribed by law.  To me, it's like putting on my pants.  First off, I have been a shootist, or pistolero if you prefer, for all of my adult life.  40 years.  It is many things for me - like a hobby, or an avocation.  It is part of our American heritage that I embrace - the 2nd Amendment.  A nod to our history; patriots who armed to enforce their freedom and separation from tyranny.  Patriots who arm to enforce our other constitutionally mandated rights.  In recent times, I feel it's my civic responsibility to add to the number of concealed, armed populace who are making it dangerous for criminals to conduct their business.  And my duty to protect my friends and especially family from violent attack from misguided and/or sick armed whackos and felons.  I consider it necessary when always possessing deadly weapons, to be proficient in their use and handling, and in the law, while constantly having a clear understanding of when and how to use such force.  Having a pistol always in my possession, it does not warp my perception, or make me behave any differently than if I didn't have it - I don't look for trouble, don't display bravado, etc.  On the contrary, I avoid confrontations - always aware of the consequences of actually USING the weapon, knowing I'd better DAMN WELL be sure I used it only in defense from a perp's use of deadly force threat against me, or innocents around me.  I don't carry it because I fear for a threat in any particular locale; I have no idea if or when I will have to employ the weapon.  But I practice for that eventuality, so if it is needed, my judgment and aim will be true.

When I applied for my CCW license about 8 years ago, I pre-consented to be deputized by LEOs if requested, should they be in need of assistance.  I'm pretty sure that occurrence would pretty much happen after Hell froze over, but I did agree to the point.  (Here in Colorado, permits are issued by the county sheriff, and I understand the text of the license terms varies between counties - though I haven't studied the terms of other counties.)  I also recall, at that time, the law stipulated the police were not to use the list of CCW'ers in real time, like being advised of that fact during traffic stops.  I've since seen evidence that stipulation isn't happening - the cop calls in your license, he knows in seconds the registered owner likely is carrying.  Historically, it's not the legally armed folks the cops need to worry about.  Also, stats show that every state that has legalized concealed carry, violent crime has declined substantially.

[fudgie]

We have 1 murder in my town every year. Shootings are rare. Bar fights every weekend. I dont want to be part of either, well a good bar fight maybe.  We all have a 50/50 chance of being killed. I'd like to try and level the playing field.
Guns dont scare me....no guns scare me. 

Well, the actual statistics I seen was more like 6 in 100,000 for murder and 4 in 1000 for assault in the US. But I get your point Fudgie.  Better to be a sheepdog than a sheep.

Thx! I was going for either you get killed or you dont. To me thats 50/50. 

[fudgie]

Are you guys saying that you would not dare ride around in your own Country unarmed, do you really carry evertime you ride ? How many bad guys have you had to gun down and where do you bury them all ??? 

Can't speak for everyone, just for me, but I think many think similarly:

I don't carry every time I ride.  I carry EVERYWHERE.  Except where it is specifically proscribed by law.  To me, it's like putting on my pants.  First off, I have been a shootist, or pistolero if you prefer, for all of my adult life.  40 years.  It is many things for me - like a hobby, or an avocation.  It is part of our American heritage that I embrace - the 2nd Amendment.  A nod to our history; patriots who armed to enforce their freedom and separation from tyranny.  Patriots who arm to enforce our other constitutionally mandated rights.  In recent times, I feel it's my civic responsibility to add to the number of concealed, armed populace who are making it dangerous for criminals to conduct their business.  And my duty to protect my friends and especially family from violent attack from misguided and/or sick armed whackos and felons.  I consider it necessary when always possessing deadly weapons, to be proficient in their use and handling, and in the law, while constantly having a clear understanding of when and how to use such force.  Having a .45 or .40 always in my possession, it does not warp my perception, or make me behave any differently than if I didn't have it - I don't look for trouble, don't display bravado, etc.  On the contrary, I avoid confrontations - always aware of the consequences of actually USING the weapon, knowing I'd better DAMN WELL be sure I used it only in defense from a perp's use of deadly force threat against me, or innocents around me.  I don't carry it because I fear for a threat in any particular locale; I have no idea if or when I will have to employ the weapon.  But I practice for that eventuality, so if it is needed, my judgment and aim will be true.  All of my carry arms are laser sighted, while one also has attached a tac light - I intend to do all I can to ensure I won't fail to ID the threat, or miss or hit a bystander.

When I applied for my CCW license about 8 years ago, I pre-consented to be deputized by LEOs if requested, should they be in need of assistance.  I'm pretty sure that occurrence would pretty much happen after Hell froze over, but I did agree to the point.  (Here in Colorado, permits are issued by the county sheriff, and I understand the text of the license terms varies between counties - though I haven't studied the terms of other counties.)  I also recall, at that time, the law stipulated the police were not to use the list of CCW'ers in real time, like being advised of that fact during traffic stops.  I've since seen evidence that stipulation isn't happening - the cop calls in your license, he knows in seconds the registered owner likely is carrying.  Historically, it's not the legally armed folks the cops need to worry about.  Also, stats show that every state that has legalized concealed carry, violent crime has declined substantially.

[judd]

Well this has turned into a carry vs don't carry debate ................... thanks in part to me. 
Although I fully support ones right to carry, let's get back to the the original question  "Next best Weapon" when travelling in Canada.

In Canada as has already been established we do not have the right to carry nor can anyone bring a sidearm for the purpose of self defense into the Country. 

Having said that, I still say do not let that stop you from a riding Holiday here, the chances of you actually being robbed, assulted, shot or attacked by wildlife are so slim as to be a non issue. Man there are thousands of Cyclists male and female alike,  never mind Bike riders riding and camping out across country every day (unarmed) except for perhaps a can of bear spray and a jack knife.   

Man up................Bring whatever weapon that is not restricted, Knife, Club, spray whatever blows your skirt up, although I would suggest you come armed with a taste for adventure, a sense of humour, a thirst for great beer and don't forget a good bottle of Bourbon..................we'll horse trade ya for an equally good bottle of Rye !!! 

Cheers, Judd
 
 

[Stude]

[quote .............when the Canucks bring that Cup home Monday night we'd best stay home for sure, eh !!!   
 
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 Well not to rub the cup thing in youur face... But feel free to run about the country side...
No Worries.
 Myself I don't own a gun... my wallet is too tight for me to buy bullets.
And I say more power to the people that do carry. When it comes time to "bare arms"
all I can do is put on a tank top and ride off into the sun set.

 

[PhredValk]

Here's a question. With all of the sidearm carrying riders out there; have you ever had reason to unholster your weapon? If not, have you ever been in a situation where you would?
Fred.