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« Reply #40 on: June 27, 2011, 11:07:32 AM » |
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Do you need yet ANOTHER explanation?!?
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.-Mike |
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Paxton
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« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2011, 02:47:47 PM » |
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"Stealing ideas from one person is 'plagiarism.' To steal ideas from many others is "research."
I am definitely low on ideas... so here is some of my "research..."
Obviously, these are not my own words...
they just shed some light into the obscurity of my own mindlessness. ============================================================================================================================== "It is the certainty that they possess the truth, which makes people cruel... Believe those who seek the truth, doubt those who find it...
There is no doubt fiction makes a better job of the truth... One believes what our eyes want to believe!"
"It is as if Little Red Riding Hood had asked the wolf:
'Dear Grandmother, what is the truth for?' And the wolf had replied: 'The truth helps me tell you better lies...
The truth is messy. It's raw and uncomfortable.
You can't blame people for preferring lies."
'BOUT MY PREVIOUS POST:
One asks (1."Do you need yet ANOTHER explanation?!?"
Another ponders: (2. "...but surely you don't mean what you said..."
1.) Well... err... I'm not sure that I crave for another explanation,
but if in anyone's own mind and perception they have formed the opinion that I do,
then heck... go for it.
WARNING:
I sometimes experience short memory loss. Also, I sometimes experience short-memory loss...
2.) Borrowing from eloquent Arizona Senator Kyl:
"... my pronouncement was not meant to be interpreted as a factual statement..." MORE STOLEN QUOTES... err... RESEARCH:
"We're all pieces of the same ever-changing puzzle; some connected for mere seconds, some connected for life,
some connected through knowledge, some through belief, some connected through wisdom, some through Love,
and some connected with no explanation at all.
Yet, as spiritual beings having a human experience, we're all here for the sensations this reality or illusion has to offer.
The least anyone can hope for is the right to be able to Live, Learn, Love then Leave.
After that, reap the benefits of their own chosen existence in the hereafter by virtue of simply believing in what they believe...
As for here, it took me a while but this progression helped me with my life: I like myself. I Love myself. I am myself..."
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"He drew the dagger and laid it on the table between them; a length of dragon bone and Valkyrian steel,
as sharp as the difference between right and wrong, between true and false, between life and death."
George R.R. Martin (A Game of Thrones) [/i] |
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1966 First year Bronco... 302 CI V8
1975 First year Chrysler Cordoba... 360 CI V8
1978 Honda 750F / Cafe Racer
2000 GL1500CY Fast-Black Standard Solo Rider
So Cal... 91205
"Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul."
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« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2011, 03:03:33 PM » |
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Do you need yet ANOTHER explanation?!?
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.-Mike So does that mean I can have other god behind him? ??? |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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Bobbo
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« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2011, 03:08:22 PM » |
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Do you need yet ANOTHER explanation?!?
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.-Mike So does that mean I can have other god behind him? ??? Yes, or even EQUAL to him! Just how many other gods does God admit are available? ??? |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2011, 04:08:21 PM » |
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With the Hebrew God warning man to not have any other Gods before them prove that there are other Gods? How many and where are they? They definitly are a quiet bunch. Can Gods be destroyed or just the people that believe in them? When the Roman's marched into northern Europe and supplanted the Celtic, and Germanic Gods, where did they go? My ancestors all came from northern Europe so does that mean my soul really belong to those Gods? Are they in hiding? There are a few Druids around but not that many to make a difference.
notice the small g......"other gods" are anything that comes before the worship of the one true GOD (NOTICE THE BIG G) To God the other gods arent gods, but the humans worshiped them as such |
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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2011, 04:23:32 PM » |
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========================================================================================= I definitely find comfort on the ("most of us") interpretation that Jesus was talking in the singular. I feel liberated from this life-long misunderstood burden! Foolishly I thought that ALL Jesus' words were applicable to ME ... But as it turns out, in this instance Jesus was singularly talking to the young ruler as "the rich kid was sad because he had a lot of stuff." I wonder why the gospel would tell us a story about Jesus that has no relevance to our collective humanity. In today's context, it appears that Jesus was just Twittering this rich kid, and I guessed that he was talking to me too! Now I feel stupid... and Vane. Jesus wasn't even talking to me!     
The complete quote is, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." That is, of course from the NASB English translation of the original Greek.
In another place Jesus says, "Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied there and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to me."
In another place He says, "Friend, do what you have come for."
And to one, "Go wash in the pool of Siloam."
And to another, "Remove the stone."
I'm sure you get the idea.
As to relevance, I think the concept Jesus expressed is applicable to all of us on two levels. On one it is that anything we own (or rather that owns us) of which we are unwilling to divest ourselves for His purposes will hinder our devotion and service and, according to Jesus, our gift of eternal life. On a second level we should as a practice be giving to the poor from our riches. You might note from the quote that He didn't instruct the rich young ruler to sell all that he owned or to give away all that he owned. By our interpretation we have often implied those.
Be safe, J. Paxton, you're still on my list for one of my Valks should I be instructed to divest myself of them. Actually, in better keeping with the story, shouldn't I sell my Valkyrie to you and foward the proceeds to Somalia?
Either way, there's no reason for either of us to feel unintelligent or weathered based on our understanding or lack thereof. Willow I rather enjoyed your commentary on these verses until you went "soft" on the rich young ruler. In Luke Jesus says sell ALL, and in the Book of Mark he says (KJV) "sell whatsoever" thou hast. That seems kinda ALL inclusive to me I believe this instruction was meant for him and him alone. I also believe Jesus meant EVERYTHING, and I also believe that in faith if he had done it, the Lord would have blessed him twice as much as in the case of Job. But thats just how I hear it. |
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« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2011, 05:12:59 PM » |
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With the Hebrew God warning man to not have any other Gods before them prove that there are other Gods? How many and where are they? They definitly are a quiet bunch. Can Gods be destroyed or just the people that believe in them? When the Roman's marched into northern Europe and supplanted the Celtic, and Germanic Gods, where did they go? My ancestors all came from northern Europe so does that mean my soul really belong to those Gods? Are they in hiding? There are a few Druids around but not that many to make a difference.
notice the small g......"other gods" are anything that comes before the worship of the one true GOD (NOTICE THE BIG G) To God the other gods arent gods, but the humans worshiped them as such To capitalize the word "god" is contextual to it's usage, and has nothing to do with validity. Proper nouns, like "God" are capitalized, since it names a specific thing, much like "Allah". Common nouns (like "other gods") are not capitalized, since they are general usage. Today's English 101 class was brought to you by the letter "G" and the number "7"...  |
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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2011, 05:17:28 PM » |
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With the Hebrew God warning man to not have any other Gods before them prove that there are other Gods? How many and where are they? They definitly are a quiet bunch. Can Gods be destroyed or just the people that believe in them? When the Roman's marched into northern Europe and supplanted the Celtic, and Germanic Gods, where did they go? My ancestors all came from northern Europe so does that mean my soul really belong to those Gods? Are they in hiding? There are a few Druids around but not that many to make a difference.
notice the small g......"other gods" are anything that comes before the worship of the one true GOD (NOTICE THE BIG G) To God the other gods arent gods, but the humans worshiped them as such To capitalize the word "god" is contextual to it's usage, and has nothing to do with validity. Proper nouns, like "God" are capitalized, since it names a specific thing, much like "Allah". Common nouns (like "other gods") are not capitalized, since they are general usage. Today's English 101 class was brought to you by the letter "G" and the number "7"... What about gaWd? ??? |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2011, 05:31:35 PM » |
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With the Hebrew God warning man to not have any other Gods before them prove that there are other Gods? How many and where are they? They definitly are a quiet bunch. Can Gods be destroyed or just the people that believe in them? When the Roman's marched into northern Europe and supplanted the Celtic, and Germanic Gods, where did they go? My ancestors all came from northern Europe so does that mean my soul really belong to those Gods? Are they in hiding? There are a few Druids around but not that many to make a difference.
notice the small g......"other gods" are anything that comes before the worship of the one true GOD (NOTICE THE BIG G) To God the other gods arent gods, but the humans worshiped them as such To capitalize the word "god" is contextual to it's usage, and has nothing to do with validity. Proper nouns, like "God" are capitalized, since it names a specific thing, much like "Allah". Common nouns (like "other gods") are not capitalized, since they are general usage. Today's English 101 class was brought to you by the letter "G" and the number "7"... Bobbo....throughout the Bible little g gods are refered to as gods, but the context is gods to those that wrongly worship them not gods to God. Jesus is God big G and its not merely an english drill. Little g gods are not God and the true God is never spelled with a little g |
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« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2011, 05:51:26 PM » |
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With the Hebrew God warning man to not have any other Gods before them prove that there are other Gods? How many and where are they? They definitly are a quiet bunch. Can Gods be destroyed or just the people that believe in them? When the Roman's marched into northern Europe and supplanted the Celtic, and Germanic Gods, where did they go? My ancestors all came from northern Europe so does that mean my soul really belong to those Gods? Are they in hiding? There are a few Druids around but not that many to make a difference.
notice the small g......"other gods" are anything that comes before the worship of the one true GOD (NOTICE THE BIG G) To God the other gods arent gods, but the humans worshiped them as such To capitalize the word "god" is contextual to it's usage, and has nothing to do with validity. Proper nouns, like "God" are capitalized, since it names a specific thing, much like "Allah". Common nouns (like "other gods") are not capitalized, since they are general usage. Today's English 101 class was brought to you by the letter "G" and the number "7"... Bobbo....throughout the Bible little g gods are refered to as gods, but the context is gods to those that wrongly worship them not gods to God. Jesus is God big G and its not merely an english drill. Little g gods are not God and the true God is never spelled with a little g It doesn't surprise me that the Bible correctly follows English noun conventions. That you choose to believe it means something more than proper grammar is your interpretation. |
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« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2011, 06:40:42 PM » |
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All the questions I asked in my post and all I get is criticism of my capitalization.
seriously....I thought most of those questions were rhetorical. If not then they seem to be along the lines of stirring the pot. |
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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2011, 06:49:24 PM » |
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« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2011, 10:40:32 PM » |
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I told myself I wasn't going enter this conversation, but.... in MHO I don't really care whether your an atheist or a god fearing person. What I care about and what this country needs are more Good, law abiding and reasonable men, not the others I see everyday. Ones that hold that right is right and wrong is wrong. Guys that subscribe to the "cowboy way" so to speak. Without having a personal self-serving agenda, and will use dishonesty to get it. Just MHO! Linedog
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KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)
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« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2011, 03:24:36 AM » |
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« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2011, 06:12:31 PM » |
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One of the don'ts is the discussion of Christianity's bloody history in it spread from the Middle East to Rome and later thru Europe and the Americas. Christianity was just used as a title. What you read about is the spread of 'religion' and the clashes with other 'religions'. If you don't know the difference between religion and faith you should learn. It makes a world of difference! |
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« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2011, 04:46:10 AM » |
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One of the don'ts is the discussion of Christianity's bloody history in it spread from the Middle East to Rome and later thru Europe and the Americas. Christianity was just used as a title. What you read about is the spread of 'religion' and the clashes with other 'religions'. If you don't know the difference between religion and faith you should learn. It makes a world of difference! Thank you Bob..........I wouldnt have found the right words.........spot on |
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