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« on: July 11, 2011, 11:53:02 AM » |
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I'm not saying its good or bad just giving my first impression. this truck requires (as an added expense to me) Diesel Exhaust Fluid or DEF. the first time I filled my DEF tank I noticed the nozzle is completely enclosed away from the environment. there is a sliding cover that seals it off. I opened the tank on my truck and noticed the aperture is very small, then I withdrew the nozzle and saw it was very small as well. the nozzle fit almost airtight into the tank I was wondering what the vapors were like and pulled the nozzle back an inch. wow!  that's nasty. I think we'll probably found out that this DEF is more harmful to the environment then the mercury in CFL's I wonder what kind of hazmat clean up will be required when a truck crashes and ruptures the DEF tank? the added expense is about .00815 cents per mile so it's not a big deal |
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MP
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1997 Std Valkyrie and 2001 red/blk I/S w/sidecar
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 12:28:55 PM » |
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It is urea based ammonia (nitrogen) fertilizer, basically. Of course, they had to have a fancy name for it!
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 12:36:29 PM » |
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yummy urea  |
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 02:39:03 PM » |
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It is urea based ammonia (nitrogen) fertilizer, basically. Of course, they had to have a fancy name for it!
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That is scary, Nitrogen and fuel oil mixed = Explosive |
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 02:53:37 PM » |
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It is urea based ammonia (nitrogen) fertilizer, basically. Of course, they had to have a fancy name for it!
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That is scary, Nitrogen and fuel oil mixed = Explosive I think you mean ammonium nitrate. |
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 02:55:08 PM » |
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It is urea based ammonia (nitrogen) fertilizer, basically. Of course, they had to have a fancy name for it!
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That is scary, Nitrogen and fuel oil mixed = Explosive I do believe gasoline fits that same category, we drag that stuff all over the place 5+ gallons at a time with our Valks . |
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 03:06:37 PM » |
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Detonator under the right conditons does this with your DEF> BOOOOOOOOOM. 1.8kg ANFO+Al vs big tree (External Embedding Disabled) |
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 06:07:08 PM » |
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DEF is stable no danger of big booom. but it is another mandate from washington and the math on is worse than it is on ethanol or at least just as bad. It is suposed to reduce Nox emissions. But what about all the emissions it takes to make, bottle and transport the stuff to retailers?? Just more polical BS  did you expect any thing different ? if you act surprised you must work for the E.P.A. !  I'm kinda shocked at how indifferent I feel towards more regulations. must be inured to it now. |
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2011, 07:27:04 PM » |
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I've been selling it for over a year now. Ford dealer parts is where I work. It's been on the 2011 F series 6.7L diesel. The only real complaint I've heard from customers is that the DEF runs out sooner than the sales dept said it would. Surprise, Surprise!!  Sales Dept lied!! A full tank of DEF is supposed to last from recommended oil change to oil change. From what I hear all makes will have it in 2012. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2011, 08:03:22 PM » |
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Looks like we need to cross off Exhaust Fluid on our list of fake automotive stuff! What's next? Will they actually equip new vehicles with blinker fluid and muffler bearings?! |
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2011, 04:22:30 AM » |
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There are a few more things that I have heard the price of the catalytic's for this and all the plumbing add about 7 grand to the price of the vehicle. Also the new Ford tow truck that I think had this system on it had a bad habit of accelerating on its own like designed to do and stay there for a few minutes so that all the stuff in the exhaust could burn up. The temp of the exhaust was so hot that I wonder if it could catch things on fire.
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 06:38:44 AM » |
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Looks like we need to cross off Exhaust Fluid on our list of fake automotive stuff! What's next? Will they actually equip new vehicles with blinker fluid and muffler bearings?! all new for 2012 the kneuter valve  |
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2011, 06:41:41 AM » |
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There are a few more things that I have heard the price of the catalytic's for this and all the plumbing add about 7 grand to the price of the vehicle. Also the new Ford tow truck that I think had this system on it had a bad habit of accelerating on its own like designed to do and stay there for a few minutes so that all the stuff in the exhaust could burn up. The temp of the exhaust was so hot that I wonder if it could catch things on fire.
YES! I have an idiot light on my dash that signals 'hot exhaust'. there is a warning in the driver manual to keep flammable material away from the stack. |
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