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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2011, 06:52:58 AM » |
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Wow Jess, according to Serk's link, TN allows more states than Texas and that's saying something! SC is pitful in comparison! Must be a lot of good folks in Tn.  |
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2011, 06:57:01 AM » |
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any way i was just wondering, why does every one want a UT license?
Because they're cheap and easy to get. |
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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2011, 07:23:06 AM » |
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any way i was just wondering, why does every one want a UT license?
Because they're cheap and easy to get. Serk I just read you had to work there for 6 months. On another page I don't think they issue a non- resident permit unless I'm reading it wrong.  |
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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2011, 07:56:22 AM » |
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SugarB, if MO is good in all but 11 States, why would you need another?
Unless you need coverage in a particular State(s) not covered by your MO permit.
VA has a separate card from the Dr. license, but when your license is run in the police computer, a blinking red light tells them you have a permit (and brother you better have told them about it the first time they came to the car or they will read you the riot act). In TX and other States, you are required to disclose the permit and pistol at first meeting.... not in VA, but the police have made it clear they expect you to do the same. Now out of state, I may not disclose (if the pistol is in the car or bike but not on my person).
I know it's legal, but I am confounded how FL or any other state should be able to to provide a permanent non-resident who never lives there a concealed permit in some other State.
i was more concerned with having the endorsement on my drivers license. but joe valk answered my question. i didn't like the idea of showing my d/l--ccw to anyone who needs ID. unless their a leo, they don't need to know. and thanks Joe |
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fudgie
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2011, 08:00:09 AM » |
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All this seems a little trivial to me.
I have a TN HCP..
I just looked up the states i can carry in and there is only a handfull i cant carry in and they are: MA, RI, CT, NJ, MD, DC, WA, OR, CA, and HI..
these i will probably never visit any way,,
any way i was just wondering, why does every one want a UT license?
UT offers you more States. 26 States honor my Ind. I think can get a additional 8 States or more by having my Utah. I think a Utah NR is easier to obtain then other States NR. Most of the States you have to take the class in that State. Utah does not. http://www.handgunlaw.us/ |
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« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2011, 08:16:25 AM » |
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...snip...I know it's legal, but I am confounded how FL or any other state should be able to to provide a permanent non-resident who never lives there a concealed permit in some other State.
Umm, the same way we expect them to honor our motorcycle endorsements from another state, or for that matter any driver's license at all? This Summer I had a trip that took me through 6 or 7 different States. None of them questioned my ability to drive safely and obey their laws, trusting my home State's judgement of me. |
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F6Mark
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« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2011, 02:36:28 PM » |
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On the light side: ..... I'm sure we can work out a deal for some fellow VRCCers come over and beat you up a little (just enough for a short ER visit, for proof of assault), enough times so maybe you could qualify for a permit.
Thats why I love this website! How many places can you go to for unsolicited offers of a butt-kicking! Jess, I agree it's pretty bad over here, naturally though the crime rate is a bit less out there in the hunt country where you are. hehe |
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2011, 02:54:49 PM » |
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...snip...I know it's legal, but I am confounded how FL or any other state should be able to to provide a permanent non-resident who never lives there a concealed permit in some other State.
Umm, the same way we expect them to honor our motorcycle endorsements from another state, or for that matter any driver's license at all? This Summer I had a trip that took me through 6 or 7 different States. None of them questioned my ability to drive safely and obey their laws, trusting my home State's judgement of me. Apples and oranges. YOUR resident State issued you a drivers license with MC endorsement. You live there, are a legal resident, complied with your States requirements and got a license. It is honored in all States because of the privileges and immunities clause of the US Const (and other reasons). This is completely different from some State you don't live in or have any legal connection to giving (selling) you a carry permit to their State (which of course has reciprocity to multiple other States). It actually works out to people's benefit, with more lawful concealed carry in more States. So it is a good thing. I suppose if you go thru all the requirements for the non-resident permit, it is lawful to issue it to a complete non-resident. They do get the fees as income. |
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« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2011, 03:00:46 PM » |
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On the light side: ..... I'm sure we can work out a deal for some fellow VRCCers come over and beat you up a little (just enough for a short ER visit, for proof of assault), enough times so maybe you could qualify for a permit.
Thats why I love this website! How many places can you go to for unsolicited offers of a butt-kicking! Jess, I agree it's pretty bad over here, naturally though the crime rate is a bit less out there in the hunt country where you are. hehe |
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« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2011, 03:07:27 PM » |
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SugarB, if MO is good in all but 11 States, why would you need another?
Unless you need coverage in a particular State(s) not covered by your MO permit.
VA has a separate card from the Dr. license, but when your license is run in the police computer, a blinking red light tells them you have a permit (and brother you better have told them about it the first time they came to the car or they will read you the riot act). In TX and other States, you are required to disclose the permit and pistol at first meeting.... not in VA, but the police have made it clear they expect you to do the same. Now out of state, I may not disclose (if the pistol is in the car or bike but not on my person).
I know it's legal, but I am confounded how FL or any other state should be able to to provide a permanent non-resident who never lives there a concealed permit in some other State.
i was more concerned with having the endorsement on my drivers license. but joe valk answered my question. i didn't like the idea of showing my d/l--ccw to anyone who needs ID. unless their a leo, they don't need to know. and thanks Joe Yeah I gathered that was the problem as the thread progressed. Guess you can apply for a separate license, not on your Dr license.... I would too. I would not like for any out-of-state police to see my permit in my home State either (or anyone really). Except for showing it for reciprocity reasons. |
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« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2011, 03:17:39 PM » |
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from my perspective the only person that ever sees my drivers liscense is a LEO. I use a passport card for ID for anyone else, it is a federally issued identification with my picture and birthdate. Some bank tellers who havent seen them ask for a "real" id and I have to tell them that it is a federally issued ID.
If you do decide to only use the pasport ID as you main / only ID, when at Target buying beer be prepared to wait for a manager to come key in some code to allow the clerk to manually enter the birthdate. They cant scan the passport card like they can the drivers liscense.
I'm in Florida and didnt realize how many states a FL CCW permit is good in.... reminds me I need to send off that paperwork that is on my desk...
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fudgie
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« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2011, 05:01:45 PM » |
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I use my Utah NR as second form of ID at the tattoo parlor. He never looks at it as he scans it. When he reads the back I kinda get looks. It says 'Bureau of Criminal Identification.'  |
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fudgie
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« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2011, 06:04:30 PM » |
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A tattoo parlor requires two form of ID???  I thought Jackson and Jefferson was good enough. lol not when you lay down Franklins.  |
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« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2011, 03:18:37 AM » |
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i just thought this was fitting( kinda reminds me of fudgie)
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