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John Schmidt
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« on: November 27, 2011, 03:49:48 PM »

Do you remember Kilroy? Maybe...maybe not.

Kilroy was here! We always wondered about this guy. Now we know!

This is interesting ... I have often wondered about Kilroy ... now I know. Great piece of history.

Anyone born in the mid thirties (or earlier) knew Kilroy. We didn't know why but we had lapel pins with his nose hanging over the label and the top of his face above his nose with his hands hanging over the label too. I believe it was orange colored. No one knew why he was so well known but we all joined in!

Kind of a war story, now we know!

INTERESTING?~~~~

KILROY WAS HERE! WHO THE HECK WAS KILROY?


In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio
program, "Speak to America," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the REAL Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article.

Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, but only James Kilroy from Halifax, Massachusetts, had evidence of his identity.

Kilroy was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war who worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy. His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet.

Kilroy would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilroy went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark. Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters.

One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate. It was then he realized what had been going on.

The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to stick with the waxy chalk. He continued to put his checkmark on each job he inspected, but added KILROY WAS HERE in king-sized letters next to the check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message. Once he did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks.

Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with paint. With war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast that there wasn't time to paint them. As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced. His message apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific. Before war's end, "Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long hauls to Berlin and Tokyo.

To the troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that some jerk named Kilroy had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. servicemen began placing the graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived.

Kilroy became the U.S. super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest, the Statue of Liberty, the underside of Arc De Triomphe, and even scrawled in the dust on the moon).

As the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese-held islands in the Pacific to map the terrain for coming invasions by U.S. troops (and thus, presumably, were the first GI's there). On one occasion, however, they reported seeing enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo! In 1945, an outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill at the Potsdam conference. Its? first occupant was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in Russian), "Who is Kilroy?"

To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley car, which he gave to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it up as a playhouse in the Kilroy front yard in Halifax , Massachusetts..

If you check the WWII memorial in Washington DC, you will see Kilroy peeking over a wall!!!

So, Now you know!
 
I still have a pin somewhere in my stuff saved from when I was a kid. Got if from the people that ran the grocery store where we bought all our stuff using the ration stamps.
 
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2011, 05:53:38 PM »

Great story!  I remember Kilroy but thought he was an American GI in Europe knocking up chicks.  Here's an eBay auction of the Kilroy logo:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KILROY-HERE-MILITARY-T-SHIRT-GREEN-WHITE-/130605152104?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&hash=item1e68ac7768
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2011, 06:02:00 PM »

My Dad who served as an Army Medic assigned to the Marines in the invasion of Okinawa said that they cleared a bunker / cave  and they found Kilroy was here in the bunker!
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2011, 06:18:08 PM »

Always wondered who that guy was or wasn't.

Now I am not in the dark anymore.

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 03:41:04 AM »

I almost forgot about Kilroy, John. Great story!  I saw my share of Kilroy was Here  sketches.  In fact I made a few myself.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 12:06:14 PM »

It must have made a resurgence in the 80's. I was in HS (class of '85) and found it in many of my textbooks. Since the books were used for many years it was a message to the next class.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 12:42:23 PM »

What a way to make a name for yourself.  2funny
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 12:48:46 PM »

It must have made a resurgence in the 80's. I was in HS (class of '85) and found it in many of my textbooks. Since the books were used for many years it was a message to the next class.
+1 I also remember a short resurgence in the early 80s (My college days)
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 02:57:07 PM »

Are you a turtle?
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 03:31:31 PM »

It's "Are you a true turtle?"

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2011, 03:31:59 PM »

You bet your sweet ass I am!
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2011, 03:40:54 PM »

It must have made a resurgence in the 80's. I was in HS (class of '85) and found it in many of my textbooks. Since the books were used for many years it was a message to the next class.
+1 I also remember a short resurgence in the early 80s (My college days)

You may be able to thank Styx for that.
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