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« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2012, 12:40:09 AM »

http://news.yahoo.com/energy-secretary-chu-admits-administration-ok-high-gas-193900713.html

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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2012, 05:13:38 AM »

Obama said it is necessary to raise prices much higher.  He is working on it.  Has restricted enough that prices have doubled since he took over.  Reelect him, and he will double them again.  As per his and his administrations pronouncements.

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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2012, 05:34:08 AM »

High gas prices are good good for several reasons.  It encourages conservation.  Conservation means we use less oil.  Using less oil means we pay less money to the dictators and despots that supply a goodly amount of our crude... yes, I know that Canada is a major supplier... they take our money, too, resulting in a net import/export deficit account.  People buy more fuel efficient cars which means the USA can keep reducing payments for importing crude.  If higher taxes are used to raise prices, auto drivers finally start paying more of their fair share of the costs of highways, which are all too often paid out of general funds.  And when energy prices rise, alternative energy sources look more attractive.
 
Those of you who think only of your own personal wallet are shortsighted.  One key element of the restoration of a prosperous USA is a reduction in the reliance of imported fossil fuels.
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« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2012, 11:25:00 AM »

$4.99.99 for regular in Great Neck, NY.   Cry
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« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2012, 08:21:34 PM »

High gas prices are good good for several reasons.  It encourages conservation.  Conservation means we use less oil.  Using less oil means we pay less money to the dictators and despots that supply a goodly amount of our crude... yes, I know that Canada is a major supplier... they take our money, too, resulting in a net import/export deficit account.  People buy more fuel efficient cars which means the USA can keep reducing payments for importing crude.  If higher taxes are used to raise prices, auto drivers finally start paying more of their fair share of the costs of highways, which are all too often paid out of general funds.  And when energy prices rise, alternative energy sources look more attractive.
 
Those of you who think only of your own personal wallet are shortsighted.  One key element of the restoration of a prosperous USA is a reduction in the reliance of imported fossil fuels.


Well someone has to think about our wallets, Our Dear Leader and his cabal sure as hell don't!
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« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2012, 08:34:24 PM »

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Those of you who think only of your own personal wallet are shortsighted


and in many cases can't feed their families, can't pay their rent, can't afford medical care, can't afford to drive to work, and can't wait a generation (or more) for solutions.  i don't see soaring gas prices helping ... pardon my short sightedness.  just tired of the rhetoric.
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« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2012, 06:42:57 AM »

in a recent post I stated that gas prices fell precipitously in 2008 because Bush opened Anwar for drilling. I was poo-pooed and told I was ignorant. well I'm back....

here is a graph of gas prices you'll notice prices mostly go up like a rocket and down like a feather, as is the norm for this commodity. on the far right hand side of the graph prices drop like an AT&T phone call in the hinter lands of Nevada.

anyone care to educate me why that happened????? 
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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2012, 10:02:43 PM »

Ron Paul tells the real reason for the oil pricespowered by Aeva
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« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2012, 02:03:13 PM »

High gas prices are good good for several reasons.  It encourages conservation.  Conservation means we use less oil.  Using less oil means we pay less money to the dictators and despots that supply a goodly amount of our crude... yes, I know that Canada is a major supplier... they take our money, too, resulting in a net import/export deficit account.  People buy more fuel efficient cars which means the USA can keep reducing payments for importing crude.  If higher taxes are used to raise prices, auto drivers finally start paying more of their fair share of the costs of highways, which are all too often paid out of general funds.  And when energy prices rise, alternative energy sources look more attractive.
 
Those of you who think only of your own personal wallet are shortsighted.  One key element of the restoration of a prosperous USA is a reduction in the reliance of imported fossil fuels.

almost everything you stated is wrong, oil is the life blood of the economy so having higher prices means a slower recovery. alternative energy sources haven't been found that will power my truck down the road. we are conserving yet prices are still high and going to be higher this summer, why?  you just hate those oil companies dontcha  Wink
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« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2012, 06:21:01 PM »

According to the article below, *less* demand for gasoline in the US is driving the higher prices at the pump. You heard that right. Normally 'higher' demand drives prices higher. Lesser demand drives prices down. That's generally why buying land in the dessert is cheaper than buying land in NYC. So how are the oil companies pulling this off? They're exporting oil like crazy with the intent of depleting oil supplies available for the domestic market thusly cancelling out the effect of lower demand here which under normal times would drop gas prices. No question whatsoever that this tactic should be outlawed. These are the very same US oil companies who are crying they should be allowed more oil leases on gov't land to drill for oil I surmise so they can export that oil overseas too.

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Why Americans Are Paying More At the Pump
By Meg Handley | U.S.News & World Report LP – Mon, Feb 27, 2012

The Department of Energy reported that the United States became a   net exporter   of refined petroleum products (such as gasoline) for the first time since 1949 last year.

A lot of it has to do with demand for gasoline, which has been declining in the United States for the last 10 years ..... demand has tapered of here due to more fuel-efficient vehicles and, more recently, the weak economy .....

But if we have all this "extra" gasoline to be exporting, why are prices at home still going up?

"Oil companies that have increased their exports overseas essentially are depleting the U.S. supply [and] in doing so it's creating an artificially higher price for American consumers," says Gregg Laskoski ( senior petroleum analyst at GasBuddy.com).

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« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2012, 08:14:32 PM »

According to the article below, *less* demand for gasoline in the US is driving the higher prices at the pump. You heard that right. Normally 'higher' demand drives prices higher. Lesser demand drives prices down. That's generally why buying land in the dessert is cheaper than buying land in NYC. So how are the oil companies pulling this off? They're exporting oil like crazy with the intent of depleting oil supplies available for the domestic market thusly cancelling out the effect of lower demand here which under normal times would drop gas prices. No question whatsoever that this tactic should be outlawed. These are the very same US oil companies who are crying they should be allowed more oil leases on gov't land to drill for oil I surmise so they can export that oil overseas too.

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Why Americans Are Paying More At the Pump
By Meg Handley | U.S.News & World Report LP – Mon, Feb 27, 2012

The Department of Energy reported that the United States became a   net exporter   of refined petroleum products (such as gasoline) for the first time since 1949 last year.

A lot of it has to do with demand for gasoline, which has been declining in the United States for the last 10 years ..... demand has tapered of here due to more fuel-efficient vehicles and, more recently, the weak economy .....

But if we have all this "extra" gasoline to be exporting, why are prices at home still going up?

"Oil companies that have increased their exports overseas essentially are depleting the U.S. supply [and] in doing so it's creating an artificially higher price for American consumers," says Gregg Laskoski ( senior petroleum analyst at GasBuddy.com).




why yes I believe the "us news and world report" is a completely objective reporter of the news, without any spin or ulterior motives  Wink Wink Wink 2funny
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« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2012, 07:42:19 AM »

Local CNN owned radio station just reported that national gas consumption is down 3% over the past year.
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« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2012, 08:06:29 AM »

?????  How much of the increase is from the decrease in value of the U.S. Dollar...per the chart, what was a dollar worth in 2003 when diesel was $1.50 compared to now???
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« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2012, 10:42:21 AM »

haha.  worth a look

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« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2012, 06:22:29 PM »

we all know the futility of trying to complain. The government does not care, and greed runs this country supreme. We just take it in the rear and stay quiet
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« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2012, 06:45:08 PM »

Some say that it's not really the rising price of oil and gas, rather it's the falling value of the dollar. One way to look at this is how much gold the dollar will buy compared to four years ago. It'll only buy about 1/2 as much. You can't rely upon government inflation calculations because they have a vested interest in keeping inflation numbers low so they exclude little things like food and fuel costs. However, when looking at gold, a universally valued commodity, the dollar's buying power has fallen dramatically. And based upon this the price of gas is right where it should be when purchased with our trashed dollars value.  tickedoff
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