Pulled threads

[f6gal]

A couple of threads were recently pulled... and subsequently re-posts or referrals to the removed threads were also removed.

First, if a thread needs to be removed, reposting it is unacceptable... if we wanted there, we would not have removed it.

Second, regardless of the orignal topic, if it instigates a thread degenerates to nothing but name-calling and bashing, it will likely be removed.  If it's plausible to remove only a couple of posts, we will.  But, I don't have the time or patience to nit-pick through an entire thread and edit or delete rampant offensiveness from the thread.

Sorry if you find this "handsy," but I was the one that pulled any threads over the last couple of days and I'm probably the most tolerant of the moderators.  But I'm also the least likely to take the time to edit a post or thread.  

[Clark]

WHEW.. lets get back to the interesting and lively stuff....what kind of oil are you guys usin??

[Clark]

AND...IMHO  X GOT WHAT HE /SHE HAD COMIN.. and thats all I'm gonna say about that..

[The Anvil]

It's not how I'd handle things but it's not my forum. That said it just might circumvent some of the confusion if you took a minute to tell the person WHY you deleted it. Or you could just lock it with a brief explanation as to why. I know it seems like more work but it might actually end up being less in the end.

[WamegoRob]

...what kind of oil are you guys usin??

Darkside 205/60 is a popular choice, but I know others disagree  

[Clark]

...what kind of oil are you guys usin??

Darkside 205/60 is a popular choice, but I know others disagree  

I am fixin to go DARKSIDE on my Vstrom.. dont reeeally need a new rear tire right now but might as well start the summer lookin BADASS

[donaldcc]

 
  Good job F6!  i'm not afraid to be called names or to call others as they appear, but don't let that kind of animosity take over this board.

[Michael K (Az.)]

Hey Don! And I STILL would rather go ridin, ya know? Why I got the Valk. Heh heh.

[Clark]

It's not how I'd handle things but it's not my forum. That said it just might circumvent some of the confusion if you took a minute to tell the person WHY you deleted it. Or you could just lock it with a brief explanation as to why. I know it seems like more work but it might actually end up being less in the end.

SORRY ANVIL.. but when the staff posts a thread like this you have to be at least 50 years old or have been a member for at least 3 years b4 you can respond..otherwise you are considered as peanut gallery or irrelevant...

[f6gal]

AND...IMHO  X GOT WHAT HE /SHE HAD COMIN.. and thats all I'm gonna say about that..

He had quite a few posts deleted as well.

[f6gal]

It's not how I'd handle things but it's not my forum. That said it just might circumvent some of the confusion if you took a minute to tell the person WHY you deleted it. Or you could just lock it with a brief explanation as to why. I know it seems like more work but it might actually end up being less in the end.

So, you want me to contact everyone in the thread individually to explain?
The OP of the Jesus thread understood perfectly why it was pulled and was happy with the decision.  The reposter/complainer was someone who posted in the thread.  And the OP of the "other" thread was ok with the decision, as well.

If I lock the thread, the garbage is still there... what does that accomplish?

I know you think you know how well it would go if you were running things, but believe me, if we didn't moderate, this place would be overrun with spewing crap.  And everyone except the crap spewers would just go away. 

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing against a lively debate... but I don't know why some ppl here can't do so respectfully.  And really, does anyone here think they are going to change anyone else's mind?  If it were at all possible, it occur from a logical argument... certainly not from crap spewing.

[f6gal]

It's not how I'd handle things but it's not my forum. That said it just might circumvent some of the confusion if you took a minute to tell the person WHY you deleted it. Or you could just lock it with a brief explanation as to why. I know it seems like more work but it might actually end up being less in the end.

SORRY ANVIL.. but when the staff posts a thread like this you have to be at least 50 years old or have been a member for at least 3 years b4 you can respond..otherwise you are considered as peanut gallery or irrelevant...

I have no idea what you're talking about!!!  Besides, everyone knows I'm only 29! 

[alph]

i have had many posts deleted, sometimes i wonder why, other times it's obvious!!    but the question i sometimes have for myself is, why would another person take offense to what "I" have to say?  why are they insecure about their own belief?  if "I" can make them upset, then maybe they need to stand away from their view point and look at their beliefs from someone elses eyes.   maybe they're taking things too seriously and the satire of another will lighten up the tensions.  then again, maybe not......

[..]

A couple of threads were recently pulled... and subsequently re-posts or referrals to the removed threads were also removed.

First, if a thread needs to be removed, reposting it is unacceptable... if we wanted there, we would not have removed it.

Second, regardless of the orignal topic, if it instigates a thread degenerates to nothing but name-calling and bashing, it will likely be removed.  If it's plausible to remove only a couple of posts, we will.  But, I don't have the time or patience to nit-pick through an entire thread and edit or delete rampant offensiveness from the thread.

Sorry if you find this "handsy," but I was the one that pulled any threads over the last couple of days and I'm probably the most tolerant of the moderators.  But I'm also the least likely to take the time to edit a post or thread.  

 

[John33 (France VRCC)]

well , we have the same troubles on the French Vrcc Board ......
A handful of stupid men do not understand the rules, they decide what you should think, and the best is : they believe they are funny...

the administrator is a very indulgent guy 

[junior]

A couple of threads were recently pulled... and subsequently re-posts or referrals to the removed threads were also removed.

First, if a thread needs to be removed, reposting it is unacceptable... if we wanted there, we would not have removed it.

Second, regardless of the orignal topic, if it instigates a thread degenerates to nothing but name-calling and bashing, it will likely be removed.  If it's plausible to remove only a couple of posts, we will.  But, I don't have the time or patience to nit-pick through an entire thread and edit or delete rampant offensiveness from the thread.

Sorry if you find this "handsy," but I was the one that pulled any threads over the last couple of days and I'm probably the most tolerant of the moderators.  But I'm also the least likely to take the time to edit a post or thread.  

and just who do you think you are? if i have to i'll report you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[solo1]

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing against a lively debate... but I don't know why some ppl here can't do so respectfully.  And really, does anyone here think they are going to change anyone else's mind?  If it were at all possible, it occur from a logical argument... certainly not from crap spewing.

Quote

 

[Toledo Mark]

f6gal.

You do what you think is right.  This is the ONLY website I have been coming to for about 13 years that has not disappointed me.  Everyone is nice and helpful, and those that are not I just ignore or laugh at them.

Thanks for the website and fine work you do.

Mark

[98 T]

Yes... Connie and  Willow...

thanks for moderating!!  If I don't like where a thread is going, I don't read it all...it's pretty simple.


I own a Valk....so, er, now it's  Valk-related....

[Skinhead]

If I don't like where a thread is going, I don't read it all...it's pretty simple.


I own a Valk....so, er, now it's  Valk-related....

I concur and for the life of me, don't understand why some folks can't grasp this simple concept.

[Jess from VA]

F6Gal, I agree with your actions.

I was in the process of creating a post explaining why a thread started purely to attack (or poke in the eye) one member was not acceptable, even if it was a member who's posts are almost always designed to do the same thing to others.  And explaining that troll's posts are designed to incite hate and discontent for their own entertainment, and that any replies to those posts simply empower them.  And poof (which is fine).

I find it curious that some folks cannot distinguish between lively debate and personal attacks/insults.

[The Anvil]

It's not how I'd handle things but it's not my forum. That said it just might circumvent some of the confusion if you took a minute to tell the person WHY you deleted it. Or you could just lock it with a brief explanation as to why. I know it seems like more work but it might actually end up being less in the end.

So, you want me to contact everyone in the thread individually to explain?

No, just the originator.

The OP of the Jesus thread understood perfectly why it was pulled and was happy with the decision.

Yeah but not everyone's that understanding. You may start a post and not see what direction it took. The next thing you know it's gone and you don't know why. A quick PM would prevent that.

  The reposter/complainer was someone who posted in the thread.  And the OP of the "other" thread was ok with the decision, as well.

I'm not sayin that it's a matter of being "okay" with it. You don't need anyone's permission to do what you did. It's simply a matter of abating confusion.

If I lock the thread, the garbage is still there... what does that accomplish?

What does it accomplish by deleting it? I'm of the belief that what a man says should be out there and he should either have to stand by it or stand down from it. I don't like information disappearing. You'll never catch me deleting anything I say because I said it for a reason. If I said something wrong or needlessly hurtful out of turn and I really think it needs to be addressed then I should apologize for it and I will (and have). But you can't just say things and pretend they never happened.

I know you think you know how well it would go if you were running things, but believe me, if we didn't moderate, this place would be overrun with spewing crap.  And everyone except the crap spewers would just go away.

I don't expect you to not "moderate". I've been a moderator and admin on discussion boards going back to 1999. I'm still an admin over on a Buell forum for that matter. I know you can't let the inmates run the asylum. But I also know what works because I do have a bit of experience with it. All I was doing was offering a suggestion of something that has worked in the past. Try it or do not. 

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing against a lively debate... but I don't know why some ppl here can't do so respectfully.  And really, does anyone here think they are going to change anyone else's mind?  If it were at all possible, it occur from a logical argument... certainly not from crap spewing.

That's kind of a separate argument but no it's not. If anything it's going to just push the person on the fence onto the other side.

[musclehead]

good job as always.

I feel a little puny I've never had a post pulled. 

I'll try harder to be controversial!

[Willow]

Wow!  Step away for a day or two (or more) and look what a person has to catch up on.

There is just one thing I'd like to clarify, Connie.  Not to be critical, start a urination competition, or instigate a name-calling session, but everyone knows

...  and I'm probably the most tolerant of the moderators.

that I am the most tolerant of the moderators.   

 

[Clark]

good job as always.

I feel a little puny I've never had a post pulled.  

I'll try harder to be controversial!

DUDE ..if ya need some guidance..PM ME  

[Clark]

Wow!  Step away for a day or two (or more) and look what a person has to catch up on.

There is just one thing I'd like to clarify, Connie.  Not to be critical, start a urination competition, or instigate a name-calling session, but everyone knows

...  and I'm probably the most tolerant of the moderators.

WE MISSED YOU WILLOW   

that I am the most tolerant of the moderators.   

 

[Gear Jammer]

good job as always.

I feel a little puny I've never had a post pulled.  

I'll try harder to be controversial!

DUDE ..if ya need some guidance..PM ME  

 

[Clark]

WELL I WAS all mellow a couple days ago.. THEN THAT PSYCHO DUDE posted somethin that GOT MY ATTENTION... PSYCHO needs a TIMEOUT

[alph]

Wow!  Step away for a day or two (or more) and look what a person has to catch up on.

There is just one thing I'd like to clarify, Connie.  Not to be critical, start a urination competition, or instigate a name-calling session, but everyone knows

...  and I'm probably the most tolerant of the moderators.

that I am the most tolerant of the moderators.   

 

i don't care what you think, that one you deleted from me about the windshield rubber washers was funny!  i still get a chuckle on my face when i think about it.....   (i do kill me.....)

[Clark]

Wow!  Step away for a day or two (or more) and look what a person has to catch up on.

There is just one thing I'd like to clarify, Connie.  Not to be critical, start a urination competition, or instigate a name-calling session, but everyone knows

...  and I'm probably the most tolerant of the moderators.

that I am the most tolerant of the moderators.   

 

i don't care what you think, that one you deleted from me about the windshield rubber washers was funny!  i still get a chuckle on my face when i think about it.....   (i do kill me.....)

DUDE I MISSED IT....REDO

[Tailgate Tommy]

The windshield was rubber washers? I need to get out more.
I use Shell Rotella by the way...

[stude31]

Well this was a fun thread to read 

Thanks Connie for all your time and effort for doing the "dirty" work.   I try and skip over posts that mean nothing to me but I was glad to read this thread.  Keep up the good work..

Willow...  It's time for you to come back to kansas    You and Lori have a safe trip back, we'll have to do lunch or something.  Miss you guys!!

[Paxton]

Fellow Valkyrieans;
No matter how cool we might think that "pokin' other peoples' eye" is fun... the fact is that teasing is another form of aggression. 

It is a subconscious-mind-trick that gets all our fears and anxieties aroused, thus degenerating into hurtful words that cut like a knife.

I am as guilty as most others. Had a couple of threads pulled out by willow. I appreciate the fact that by doing so, he saved me from myself! 

The moderators' job is hard. I appreciate that they are willing to step into the carnage and prevent potential holocausts.  ???

Interestingly, I often find that the hostile guy who chewed my ass in one thread, becomes the most helpful and kindest of  individuals towards me,
in the very next thread..! I see it most when the issue at hand is technical.

I realize that when we let politics, religion, sex and general "misinformation" (a dirty word) come into the discussion, all hell breaks loose. 

I know it is hard to seat in front of a computer in a crap-full undergarment and not lash out; especially if one is board and angry at a world that keeps
evolving at a rapid pace. A world which takes us outside our comfort zone.

So, in the relative safety of one's cave and / or when surrounded by like-minded folks, these thoughts and attitudes become prevalent
and are reinforced amongst kindred spirits.
This is true amongst ANY group of people that feeds on itself. It is so, regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. 

To be frank, as a person of color, I ponder the thought of going out there and ride with some folks that can't stand suspicious-lesser beings.

I do strive to hang out with respectful people that are much different than I am. I am constantly learning about other people's needs and aspirations.
They are the same as mine!

I've come to understand that nobody is better or worse. That we are just different! So, you might agree that, diminishing the value
of someone else, diminishes us all. 

Notwithstanding, I would hope that if we were talking to each other face to face, civility would prevail... every time. 

"A thought is harmless unless we believe it.
It’s not our thoughts, but our attachment to our thoughts, that causes suffering.”

GO AND RIDE SAFE... BUT RIDE HARD!

[Hoser]

f6gal.

You do what you think is right.  This is the ONLY website I have been coming to for about 13 years that has not disappointed me.  Everyone is nice and helpful, and those that are not I just ignore or laugh at them.

Thanks for the website and fine work you do.

Mark

+1   I don't care.  If I get deleted,  I probly deserve it. 

[musclehead]

good job as always.

I feel a little puny I've never had a post pulled.  

I'll try harder to be controversial!

DUDE ..if ya need some guidance..PM ME  

oh I can figure it out, you wouldn't want to spoil my fun!

[wild6]

Fellow Valkyrieans;
No matter how cool we might think that "pokin' other peoples' eye" is fun... the fact is that teasing is another form of aggression. 

It is a subconscious-mind-trick that gets all our fears and anxieties aroused, thus degenerating into hurtful words that cut like a knife.

I am as guilty as most others. Had a couple of threads pulled out by willow. I appreciate the fact that by doing so, he saved me from myself! 

The moderators' job is hard. I appreciate that they are willing to step into the carnage and prevent potential holocausts.  ???

Interestingly, I often find that the hostile guy who chewed my ass in one thread, becomes the most helpful and kindest of  individuals towards me,
in the very next thread..! I see it most when the issue at hand is technical.

I realize that when we let politics, religion, sex and general "misinformation" (a dirty word) come into the discussion, all hell breaks loose. 

I know it is hard to seat in front of a computer in a crap-full undergarment and not lash out; especially if one is board and angry at a world that keeps
evolving at a rapid pace. A world which takes us outside our comfort zone.

So, in the relative safety of one's cave and / or when surrounded by like-minded folks, these thoughts and attitudes become prevalent
and are reinforced amongst kindred spirits.
This is true amongst ANY group of people that feeds on itself. It is so, regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. 

To be frank, as a person of color, I ponder the thought of going out there and ride with some folks that can't stand suspicious-lesser beings.

I do strive to hang out with respectful people that are much different than I am. I am constantly learning about other people's needs and aspirations.
They are the same as mine!

I've come to understand that nobody is better or worse. That we are just different! So, you might agree that, diminishing the value
of someone else, diminishes us all. 

Notwithstanding, I would hope that if we were talking to each other face to face, civility would prevail... every time. 

"A thought is harmless unless we believe it.
It’s not our thoughts, but our attachment to our thoughts, that causes suffering.”

GO AND RIDE SAFE... BUT RIDE HARD!

Well said

[Karen]

Pulled Threads? Pulled Threads? Connie, I believe you were adhering to the old seamstress adage, "A stitch in time saves nine." Obviously it works with words as well as fabric. I could not be a moderator; I am not moderate. I can not be tolerant, I am not tolerable. Any further questions are humbly referred to those on this board who have all the answers.

[Russell Rice]

Just read all the posts, I still do not know why I should not pull thread. Thought it might have something to do with the "stitching" on seats 

[BF]

Just read all the posts, I still do not know why I should not pull thread. Thought it might have something to do with the "stitching" on seats 

Just use a cigarette lighter and burn it off.  Never pull a thread.....or yank a chain.   

[Varmint]

Have I missed anything?