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The Anvil
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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2012, 02:22:43 PM »

I've not rode one but I have sit on one...I can tell you after a few hours in the saddle that would become very uncomfortable.

Why's that?
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Hog Killer DS0048
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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2012, 03:22:20 PM »

Please allow me to chime in on this debate. I've owned two Valks, a 97 standard for three years and a 2000 tourer for eight and a half years. Both bikes were terrific and never regretted buying either one. In October 2008, due to arthritis in my knees, I traded my tourer for a premium grade Vision. I like many of you, when I first saw the Vision I thought "Who would buy this ugly bike?" However over time, it began to grow on me and now I really enjoy the looks. Now some comments on previous posts. The guy doing the videos is Mike Schultz owner of Arizona Victory here in Tucson. He made his own videos and as far as I know was not financed or promoted by Victory. You can't find any reference to them in any Victory ads of promotions. I ride with a guy that has a 2008 Harley Road Glide. As far as performance goes, his is a wimp in every way, however his fit and finish is better than mine. I also ride with a guy who has a 1800 GW. He is also no challenge. As far as cost goes, a Vision overall is less costly than a GW. I don't think you could put enough accessories on a Vision to get to the $28k cost of a premium GW. Accessories for the Vision is limited compared to the GW, but you can buy backrests for under $200 not $500 as posted. And you think $1700, which I believe to be a little high, is expensive, price one for a GW. Also as far as Harley being around after Victory has gone belly up, that's to be seen. However remember  Victory is the fastest growing motorcycle manufacturer currently. Also don't forget they've only been in the bike business since 1999.  One of the best compliments Victory has received, in my opinion, was after a comparison review the writer said that they had been testing Victory's since they were first introduced and they had tried as hard as they could, and couldn't break one. I'm a believer too.

OK I've said my piece feel free to flame on!
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Jess Tolbirt
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« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2012, 06:34:38 AM »

ok, if you break down, can you get your victory worked on? are spare parts readily available?
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« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2012, 06:55:20 AM »

Victory has a fairly extensive network of dealers. As I stated before, they've only been in the bike building business since 1999. I've not read on the Vision board where a rider was left stranded, but I suppose anything is possible.
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BF
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« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2012, 07:42:51 AM »

ok, if you break down, can you get your victory worked on? are spare parts readily available?

Might not be anymore difficult that taking a Valk to most any Honda dealer and the kid behind the service counter asking what kind of bike it is. 
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« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2012, 10:55:19 AM »

Good point!!
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snohunter
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« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2012, 11:03:07 AM »

I for one am waiting to see what polaris ind. is going to do with Indian now that they own it .Talked with a rep
at the donnie smith bike show this year and they are doing things with the motor and gauges but keeping the retro look which I like very much . If there was a bike that could make me go vtwin it would be Indian and thats a big if just can't seem to get over that less cylinders hump.And ya i know someone gonna say big bucks but how can you put a price on cool and you have to admit they are way cool :cooldude:and not a Harley Roll Eyes
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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2012, 11:31:40 AM »

Please allow me to chime in on this debate. I've owned two Valks, a 97 standard for three years and a 2000 tourer for eight and a half years. Both bikes were terrific and never regretted buying either one. In October 2008, due to arthritis in my knees, I traded my tourer for a premium grade Vision. I like many of you, when I first saw the Vision I thought "Who would buy this ugly bike?" However over time, it began to grow on me and now I really enjoy the looks. Now some comments on previous posts. The guy doing the videos is Mike Schultz owner of Arizona Victory here in Tucson. He made his own videos and as far as I know was not financed or promoted by Victory. You can't find any reference to them in any Victory ads of promotions. I ride with a guy that has a 2008 Harley Road Glide. As far as performance goes, his is a wimp in every way, however his fit and finish is better than mine. I also ride with a guy who has a 1800 GW. He is also no challenge. As far as cost goes, a Vision overall is less costly than a GW. I don't think you could put enough accessories on a Vision to get to the $28k cost of a premium GW. Accessories for the Vision is limited compared to the GW, but you can buy backrests for under $200 not $500 as posted. And you think $1700, which I believe to be a little high, is expensive, price one for a GW. Also as far as Harley being around after Victory has gone belly up, that's to be seen. However remember  Victory is the fastest growing motorcycle manufacturer currently. Also don't forget they've only been in the bike business since 1999.  One of the best compliments Victory has received, in my opinion, was after a comparison review the writer said that they had been testing Victory's since they were first introduced and they had tried as hard as they could, and couldn't break one. I'm a believer too.

OK I've said my piece feel free to flame on!

From reading the bike mag reviews I know the Vision rocks from a riders perspective. Good ground clearance and good performance. I've been waiting to ask someone who owns one a question about em.

When I'm riding long distance, I like to occasionally stand up on the pegs to stretch my legs without pulling over. Can you do so on the Vision or are the pegs too far forward to allow it?
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« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2012, 02:07:27 PM »

I have a couple old BMW's - but that pic makes me ask - what's a two humped camel called?
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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2012, 03:55:19 PM »

One thing the Victory guy said to be fact.  Changing the final drive belt on an HD is  a major project.   We did it on a buddies bagger in camp @ Spearfish SD last yr. The entire primary drive & swing arm have to come off to get the new belt on.  U need some 1 inch drive sockets.  The first thing I noticed when I looked at the  Victory after that was the ease of changing this breakable component.
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« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2012, 05:22:11 PM »

Ive not tried to stand up on the boards while riding, but I think it would be difficult as they are pretty far forward. That being said, that's why I bought the Vision  It's the most comfortable bike I've ridden. I have a short inseam, 28", and I can can completely stretch my legs  as far as they will go. The seat is low, 28" I think. I have no trouble flat footing at a light. I did get the custom bars, 1" up and 2" back, as I have short arms and I was leaning forward more than I wanted. The bars let me sit straight up.
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« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2012, 05:30:42 PM »

30,000 miles you are supposed to change the Harley Belt.

But I have personally witnessed a bike drive belt that went 240,000 on a ELectraglide.

It broke 1 block from the couples house.

Ride what you want and what makes you happy.

If you are comparing what you ride all the time, life is no fun.

If you are riding you are having fun. If not you need to go fishing or play golf. I ride for fun.

What do you ride for??

I have some 1 inch sockets if mine breaks, You can even get a emergency belt to get you home if need be.


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jammer
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#5407 3 valks 97-98-99

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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2012, 06:41:32 PM »

He was riding 2 up pulling a lightweight trailer.  He opted for the new belt.   Don't think Harley gives a life expectancy for the belt. Too many variables.  I have no malace toward  any bike or rider.  Our bunch rides  everyghing from HD to BMW & everyghing  in between.  Just sharing an experience relevant to this thread.
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« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2012, 08:30:39 AM »

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98valk
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« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2012, 08:52:42 AM »

30,000 miles you are supposed to change the Harley Belt.

But I have personally witnessed a bike drive belt that went 240,000 on a ELectraglide.


240k miles isn't that about 4 complete engine rebuilds and almost ready for its 5th?  Grin
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Jess Tolbirt
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« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2012, 10:09:16 AM »

30,000 miles you are supposed to change the Harley Belt.

But I have personally witnessed a bike drive belt that went 240,000 on a ELectraglide.


240k miles isn't that about 4 complete engine rebuilds and almost ready for its 5th?  Grin
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