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« on: April 26, 2012, 06:14:23 PM » |
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Want to remove the rear wheel anyway to check splines and such,,,,,,but will a plug be a good fix or not for the nail embedded. Blowing leak when nail removed. Any advice for procedure to check rear drive line wear would be very appreciated !!!! Nothing like working on your own to get to know it !!!
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gordonv
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 06:55:41 PM » |
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Plugs/repairs in a MC tire is like asking about oil. Different oppinions.
I figure any mushroom style or patch from the inside will be fine for a tread puncture.
I personally care a tire repair kit, rather than being stranded on the road. Buy I have only had a blown tire, not a flat, and will got one of those nice little kits Griffin posts from time-to-time (name always eludes me).
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 07:08:00 PM » |
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I always replace. Tires are cheap compared to hospitals. Patch kit I use to get bike home. And they still scare me.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 07:48:10 PM » |
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I'll always plug/patch a tire if it has usable tread left. And plug it on the road if I need to, to get home. Particularly a back tire, which always seems to be the one that picks up nails. But I've only had to do that a couple times in 200k miles. And now - maybe never since I went to Ride-On on all my bikes. Like Gordon said - this is like oil or the Darkside - lots of opinions. It amounts to what risk are you willing to take on, against cost - and that's a personal decision. IMHO - not much risk with a properly plugged rear tire. Particularly the inside patch/plug combo repair. Though I did that once and couldn't get it to stop leaking through the laminations, apparently. Added Ride-On and no more leaks. Been using it ever since. And now I have a glass-smooth ride, and don't have to balance tires anymore.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2012, 08:25:11 AM » |
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I carry a mushroom plug kit on the bike. When I get her home, I use a plug patch and install it according to the tire manufactures recommendation. Item 12 at this URL is what Dunlop says about repairing a tire: http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/info-center/care-and-maintenance/I see it as personal choice if it's repairable. Got money to waste? Buy a new tire at your local dealer and have them mount and balance it. Hell, buy a new bike and send me your old one. Want to conserve your dollars and you are mechanically inclined? Get a dealer that will plug/patch it for you (some won't because they want the sale of the new tire) and remove and remount yourself. Like being self-sufficient or are you strapped for cash? Remove it yourself and patch it yourself, then remount. Need help? Reach out and ask, post to the regional board, etc. Come by my place and I'll be happy to "learn ya." +1 on the Ride on. I use ceramic beads for balancing (love them) so I don't even have to pay stealers a penny as I buy my tires on-line and have a Harbor Freight motorcycle tire changer installed in my garage. RideOn and brands of of beads balance the entire wheel assembly, I've been told RideOn also seals minor leaks. Re: Checking the "rear drive line wear.". Search the site for "rear spline" and check the pics. There are some good pics to use as a comparison to what you see on yours. Take pics of yours and post, you"ll get responses for this who've done this many times. Enjoy working on her.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 10:07:06 AM » |
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I just plugged my rear tire for the second time.
It is a car tire - first plug went in at around 2,000 miles - tire almost new. I plugged it with the rope style plugs.
Last weekened I picked up another nail and plugged it again. This time just until a new tire comes in (tire has about 30K on it). I used the Stop-N-Go tire plug, but the tire still leaked air. Used the rope style again and leak stopped.
I am not really worried about dying a flaming death running a patched tire - after all I am going to die a flaming death for: 1. Running a car tire 2. Driving in Atlanta 3. Wearing a Canadian flag in Georgia 4. (Oh yea - and having a drink on Sunday once or twice a year).
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Mofla
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2012, 07:55:04 PM » |
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Thnks for the replies, opinions ! Personally i wouldn't have worried about the plug but wanted a consensus ! Took it to the m/c tire shop for a interior patch and found that they used a patch plug combo. All good I reckon. Drive line all looked good and went back together pretty well for amnion wrencher !! Very pleased,,, thnks again ,,, this place rocks ! Mofla aka Tommy B
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2012, 08:40:28 AM » |
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I think it's those patch-plugs that problems have occurred. I referring to those umbrella type things.
If doing an inside the tire patch, which is the best,
A straight forward patch would be the way to go I would think.
In this case, plugging the hole can possibly be counterproductive.
Of course, preparation is the key to a successful outcome.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2012, 09:03:32 AM » |
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Thnks for the replies, opinions ! Personally i wouldn't have worried about the plug but wanted a consensus ! Took it to the m/c tire shop for a interior patch and found that they used a patch plug combo. All good I reckon. Drive line all looked good and went back together pretty well for amnion wrencher !! Very pleased,,, thnks again ,,, this place rocks ! Mofla aka Tommy B
My very first new back tire go ta nail way back in 2003 and the Honda shop put a patch plug inside and it held perfect until that tire was worn out......never lost more air than a normal undamaged tire......dont even think about it
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2012, 09:54:59 AM » |
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I have had 6 flat tires and pluged each one. One of the tires had 2 different flats at different times. I put 10,000 additional miles on that tire. I use the mushroom plugs and carry a 12 volt compressor. Santa
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2012, 10:56:35 AM » |
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I have found that the Stop & Go soft rubber mushroom plugs will work on a car tire, but they are not ideal. The cut ends of the strands of the steel belts require more work to ream out the hole, then they will often cut the plug as you stretch it out to have the mushroom head seat against the inside surface of the tire. When that happens I do more work with the reamer, then try again. Twice it's taken three tries to make it work.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2012, 01:31:14 PM » |
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Over the years I've plugged many REAR tires ONLY on my bikes. But like mentioned, the rears seem to be the ones catching the nails. Never had a front tire go down. Never lost pressure from any plug. I carry a plug kit with co2 cart. in case I get a flat on the road. Haven't had to use it yet.
I've plugged tires on my cage and truck, several times, always with good luck. I used to plug my Bobcat tires, but that got out of hand and I bought some pink stuff to fill in the tires and they stopped leaking.
I tried plugging a tire on my SkyTrac lift, then I found out it had tubes. Felt kinda dumb doing that.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2012, 05:39:12 PM » |
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Plugged my rear tire using the string type and had no problem and wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2012, 06:16:28 PM » |
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A plug patch is the perfect way to repair a tire. Musy be done properly tho, Litterally repaired thousands of tires while running a tire shop for 20 years.
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