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Stanley Steamer
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2012, 09:40:57 AM »

ATGATT......cause I owe it to the Ladies to protect my handsome face!!........ cooldude







Gone are the days of half-helmets and short leave shirts....... Sad



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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2012, 10:16:14 AM »

I will try to post pics later, raining here all day. Have not tried to use the attachment feature yet, hope to load some by tonight. Stay tuned.

 I'm the same way about Honda's, which is what brung you to this here dance in the first place.  We're all getting older, just ride safe. I rib old guys all the time, young guys rib me. I rib HD guys, Ford guys, they rib me. That's how you know I like ya. Got work to do now.
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2012, 10:25:59 AM »

I will try to post pics later, raining here all day. Have not tried to use the attachment feature yet, hope to load some by tonight. Stay tuned.

 I'm the same way about Honda's, which is what brung you to this here dance in the first place.  We're all getting older, just ride safe. I rib old guys all the time, young guys rib me. I rib HD guys, Ford guys, they rib me. That's how you know I like ya. Got work to do now.


DON'T DON'T DON'T START WITH THE FORD THING!!  i've got two fords, both have over 140,000 miles, over ten years old, only bad thing about 'em is that they're starting to rust out and look old!!!  (all is forgiven as soon as i see your cycle!!  and yes, there should be a "sarcasm" smiley, what would it look like?)

Stanley, man you just look HOT (not in a sexy way either.....) Wink
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« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2012, 11:29:27 AM »

Since I have been visiting this forum, I have seen and enjoyed so many beautiful photos of members Valkyries. Also read many posts mentioning this V-strom. No offense, but if all I had to ride is that butt ugly Suzuki, I'd just get a Prius. Please don't post any more pics, just as bad a those wal-mart shopper people been seein on here.



I've always said V Stroms were Suzuki's attempt to out ugly BMW's GSs.

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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2012, 01:30:14 PM »




Steamer, I just love looking at the chic on the right. Yes...yes I do.
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Stanley Steamer
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« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2012, 02:54:30 PM »

Steamer, I just love looking at the chic on the right. Yes...yes I do.


Paula is some eye candy for sure!!...... cooldude

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« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2012, 05:24:23 PM »





Rainy all day, could not get out to get any beauty shots. Here's my pride & joy ('71 Club Car - 36 Volts!). This will chew up any Valkyrie & spit it out in the sand traps. Air horns are from IH, air horn tank is chrome American LaFrance fire extinguisher, grill is guttergaurd w/chrome trim, headlights are '59 Apache turn signal housings w/leds, tail lights are pvc elbows w/MG lenses & leds, seats are from Bass Pro, Grandson made the plate on back for the Ford guys, which is chain driven like the v-stroms, custom made windshield and pinstriping by SignArt. Have a well worn red Corvette steering wheel to add later.   

Beside the "Black Widow" is the '97 Jade green/cream Valkyrie. It's true, the '97's are faster.

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The '98 Blue/cream Valk is the one I like best next to the "Black Widow". It has has hardbags awaiting paint to match. Think I want a Memphis Shades batwing for it after I sell the '97.

XL350 is what I ride when off pavement, big ole hunk chrome dripping off that oem muffler.

Got several more Hondoodees, including a SOHC 750 four, I can't wait to get running, a '71 CT90, which did you know was the biggest selling m/c in the world?

Well hope I got the pictures figured out. I'll try and figure out smiley things next, if that's what it takes.
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« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2012, 07:17:27 PM »

Since I have been visiting this forum, I have seen and enjoyed so many beautiful photos of members Valkyries. Also read many posts mentioning this V-strom. No offense, but if all I had to ride is that butt ugly Suzuki, I'd just get a Prius. Please don't post any more pics, just as bad a those wal-mart shopper people been seein on here.



I've always said V Stroms were Suzuki's attempt to out ugly BMW's GSs.

Marty
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And rather juvenile.

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« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2012, 07:55:23 PM »

Hey, Solo
I couldn't get an address to p.m. you to aplologize for getting on your nerves, but I sometimes I get a kick out seein people get out of shape defending their HD's, non-hondas, or anything. Believe me it's all in fun. Don't know how to do the funny faces yet, just figured out how to attach pics here today. Just need to learn how to take pics. now. Did not mean to attack personally with the wal-mart crack, just a failed humerous attempt at comparing wierd looking people to Suzuki's. Don't mean to offend wal-mart shoppers either, I shop there my self, but you gotta admit some (a lot) of those people don't look normal. Better to publicly apologize anyway. Me and your bud Alf had a talk, and I hope it's all good wih you both now.  Smiley must show up later?
 
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« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2012, 04:24:09 AM »

I couldn't get an address to p.m. you ...

Click on the icon that looks like a cartoon quote bubble just under the avatar on the left to send the poster a personal message.
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« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2012, 05:06:40 AM »

Hey, Solo
I couldn't get an address to p.m. you to aplologize for getting on your nerves, but I sometimes I get a kick out seein people get out of shape defending their HD's, non-hondas, or anything. Believe me it's all in fun. Don't know how to do the funny faces yet, just figured out how to attach pics here today. Just need to learn how to take pics. now. Did not mean to attack personally with the wal-mart crack, just a failed humerous attempt at comparing wierd looking people to Suzuki's. Don't mean to offend wal-mart shoppers either, I shop there my self, but you gotta admit some (a lot) of those people don't look normal. Better to publicly apologize anyway. Me and your bud Alf had a talk, and I hope it's all good wih you both now.  Smiley must show up later?
 

i also apologize for misunderstanding.   I was looking at your pics, very nice collection there.  I, too had a 97 Valkyrie bought in ,96.  Two of my sons also have ,97 Valks.   The third son rides a Pacific Coast.  I would still have the ,97 if it had been lighter or if it would've had reverse but Life is full of "IFS"   I'll be looking forward to any pics that you post when you can get your collection outside.
As an aside, my Valk was pinstriped in yellow by a sign painter,  He also did the Korean dragon on the side of the Valk sidecar rig, see the previous post and my avatar. 

Thanks for posting the pics, Signart. cooldude
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« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2012, 05:39:21 AM »

Hey, Solo
I couldn't get an address to p.m. you to aplologize for getting on your nerves, but I sometimes I get a kick out seein people get out of shape defending their HD's, non-hondas, or anything. Believe me it's all in fun. Don't know how to do the funny faces yet, just figured out how to attach pics here today. Just need to learn how to take pics. now. Did not mean to attack personally with the wal-mart crack, just a failed humerous attempt at comparing wierd looking people to Suzuki's. Don't mean to offend wal-mart shoppers either, I shop there my self, but you gotta admit some (a lot) of those people don't look normal. Better to publicly apologize anyway. Me and your bud Alf had a talk, and I hope it's all good wih you both now.  Smiley must show up later?
 

i also apologize for misunderstanding.   I was looking at your pics, very nice collection there.  I, too had a 97 Valkyrie bought in ,96.  Two of my sons also have ,97 Valks.   The third son rides a Pacific Coast.  I would still have the ,97 if it had been lighter or if it would've had reverse but Life is full of "IFS"   I'll be looking forward to any pics that you post when you can get your collection outside.
As an aside, my Valk was pinstriped in yellow by a sign painter,  He also did the Korean dragon on the side of the Valk sidecar rig, see the previous post and my avatar. 

Thanks for posting the pics, Signart. cooldude
My god it sounds like a women’s sorority house around here!!  Next thing we need now are Kleenexes!! 
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« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2012, 06:19:23 AM »

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« Reply #53 on: June 12, 2012, 06:28:59 AM »

Tito, pass me a tissue!   Cry

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« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2012, 07:21:04 AM »






I am more worried about the protection for the neighbors, the pants and boots are on the bike..........................  Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2012, 08:09:37 AM »

Don't know why you would need a kleenex, Alph. Theres no need to check the oil in that rusty old Ford, just go ahead and add some to it! Grin
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« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2012, 08:37:41 AM »

Hey, Solo
I couldn't get an address to p.m. you to aplologize for getting on your nerves, but I sometimes I get a kick out seein people get out of shape defending their HD's, non-hondas, or anything. Believe me it's all in fun. Don't know how to do the funny faces yet, just figured out how to attach pics here today. Just need to learn how to take pics. now. Did not mean to attack personally with the wal-mart crack, just a failed humerous attempt at comparing wierd looking people to Suzuki's. Don't mean to offend wal-mart shoppers either, I shop there my self, but you gotta admit some (a lot) of those people don't look normal. Better to publicly apologize anyway. Me and your bud Alf had a talk, and I hope it's all good wih you both now.  Smiley must show up later?
 

i also apologize for misunderstanding.   I was looking at your pics, very nice collection there.  I, too had a 97 Valkyrie bought in ,96.  Two of my sons also have ,97 Valks.   The third son rides a Pacific Coast.  I would still have the ,97 if it had been lighter or if it would've had reverse but Life is full of "IFS"   I'll be looking forward to any pics that you post when you can get your collection outside.
As an aside, my Valk was pinstriped in yellow by a sign painter,  He also did the Korean dragon on the side of the Valk sidecar rig, see the previous post and my avatar. 

Thanks for posting the pics, Signart. cooldude
My god it sounds like a women’s sorority house around here!!  Next thing we need now are Kleenexes!! 
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« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2012, 10:27:03 AM »

No Way Tom!  You might have to talk to the other Wayne about that if that's your bag. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2012, 10:50:04 AM »

Until very recently(less than 2 weeks)i would ride in a T-shirt jeans boots gloves and my half shell helmet when it was in excess of 85 degrees F. Lips Sealed What changed you ask?? 2funny A member of this board sold to me his used Joe Rocket armored mesh jacket. Wink And i'm here to tell you i am a convert. cooldude Knowing now that(GOD forbid)if worse comes to worse and i do go pavement surfing i have a much better chance of lessoning the injuries. coolsmiley I also realize the mesh is not quite as good as leather and is a trade off but is way better than a T-shirt. Undecided Wayne-i know that one of these days i to will be looking at something lighter than a Valkyrie. Lips Sealed Hell-i not only want to live as long as you have but i want to ride as long as you do. cooldude Peace and RIDE SAFE. P.S.-Thanks Skinhead. Smiley
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« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2012, 11:17:56 AM »

I also realize the mesh is not quite as good as leather ...

If it's a Joe Rocket armored mesh (Phoenix?) it's much better than leather.  cooldude 
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« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2012, 12:21:17 PM »

I've been using my armored cortec or my mesh padded 1st gear ever since Clintsdivco's double get offs a couple years ago.  Boots, jeans and helmet also. The mesh is cooler than a shirt without it.  I keep it wet when it gets really hot.  Hoser
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« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2012, 12:30:59 PM »

I did have a Phoenix mesh awhile back but sold it to my son and bought a First Gear.  Both work great but the First Gear mesh is longer past the waist than my Joe Rocket was.  Fits better for me.
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« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2012, 03:56:20 PM »

I've been using my armored cortec or my mesh padded 1st gear ever since Clintsdivco's double get offs a couple years ago.  Boots, jeans and helmet also. The mesh is cooler than a shirt without it.  I keep it wet when it gets really hot.  Hoser
jeans will protect you well fot the first .001 second.. after that YER TOAST...  I speak from experience tickedoff tickedoff tickedoff
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« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2012, 04:16:23 PM »

jeans will protect you well fot the first .001 second.. after that YER TOAST...  I speak from experience tickedoff tickedoff tickedoff
It's not unusual for motorcycle students to fall off during slow speed manoeuvres and tear through the knees of their jeans.
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« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2012, 04:42:21 PM »

I also realize the mesh is not quite as good as leather ...

If it's a Joe Rocket armored mesh (Phoenix?) it's much better than leather.  cooldude 
  Joe Rocket ballistic series is what the shoulder patches indicate. Smiley Armor for elbows shouders back and tail bone. Wink My ride sunday it was about 80  80 degrees F and it was like i had the A/C on in the cage long as i was rollin. cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2012, 04:51:20 PM »

I also realize the mesh is not quite as good as leather ...

If it's a Joe Rocket armored mesh (Phoenix?) it's much better than leather.  cooldude 
  Joe Rocket ballistic series is what the shoulder patches indicate. Smiley Armor for elbows shouders back and tail bone. Wink My ride sunday it was about 80  80 degrees F and it was like i had the A/C on in the cage long as i was rollin. cooldude RIDE SAFE.
wear a long sleeve shirt under yer mesh. ESPECIALLY ones like joe rocket that are nylon.. i have read more than once about em melting into your skin during a crash.. specially if its really hot.  wet the shirt and it like AC
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« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2012, 05:01:08 PM »

I've been using my armored cortec or my mesh padded 1st gear ever since Clintsdivco's double get offs a couple years ago.  Boots, jeans and helmet also. The mesh is cooler than a shirt without it.  I keep it wet when it gets really hot.  Hoser
jeans will protect you well fot the first .001 second.. after that YER TOAST...  I speak from experience tickedoff tickedoff tickedoff
I'll risk it, been there myself, might look for some draggin jeans one of these days.  Or some firehose jeans.  I'll have to search for their website.  Hoser
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« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2012, 05:16:16 PM »

I've been using my armored cortec or my mesh padded 1st gear ever since Clintsdivco's double get offs a couple years ago.  Boots, jeans and helmet also. The mesh is cooler than a shirt without it.  I keep it wet when it gets really hot.  Hoser
jeans will protect you well fot the first .001 second.. after that YER TOAST...  I speak from experience tickedoff tickedoff tickedoff
I'll risk it, been there myself, might look for some draggin jeans one of these days.  Or some firehose jeans.  I'll have to search for their website.  Hoser
  I have a pop up from Bohn under armor. Google it and see what you think. coolsmiley Lycra spandex i think with armored knees and i think hip armor. Goes under yer jeans. Tad spendy but might cut yer healing time which is a good thing. cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #68 on: June 12, 2012, 08:00:32 PM »

I've been using my armored cortec or my mesh padded 1st gear ever since Clintsdivco's double get offs a couple years ago.  Boots, jeans and helmet also. The mesh is cooler than a shirt without it.  I keep it wet when it gets really hot.  Hoser
jeans will protect you well fot the first .001 second.. after that YER TOAST...  I speak from experience tickedoff tickedoff tickedoff
I'll risk it, been there myself, might look for some draggin jeans one of these days.  Or some firehose jeans.  I'll have to search for their website.  Hoser
  I have a pop up from Bohn under armor. Google it and see what you think. coolsmiley Lycra spandex i think with armored knees and i think hip armor. Goes under yer jeans. Tad spendy but might cut yer healing time which is a good thing. cooldude RIDE SAFE.
Yea, I've seen the ads.  Probly works purdy good,  but it looks a little kinky to me!   Cheesy  Grin Hoser  Shocked
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« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2012, 04:15:29 AM »

As I mentioned, I wear Diamond Gusset Defender jeans with kevlar in the knees and butt.  Diamond Gusset jeans are VERY comfortable and give extra room where it's needed (Are you listening Stud Stanley?)  The kevlar should give the protection where it's needed (I don't want to find out) but it's also conducive to 'monkey butt'  since it doesn't breathe like cotton.

I did wear at one time Aerostitch pants but they're 'way too hot especially when you should wear jeans under them due to the nylon possibly melting in a getoff as Clark said.
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« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2012, 07:57:07 AM »

As I mentioned, I wear Diamond Gusset Defender jeans with kevlar in the knees and butt.  Diamond Gusset jeans are VERY comfortable and give extra room where it's needed (Are you listening Stud Stanley?)  The kevlar should give the protection where it's needed (I don't want to find out) but it's also conducive to 'monkey butt'  since it doesn't breathe like cotton.

I did wear at one time Aerostitch pants but they're 'way too hot especially when you should wear jeans under them due to the nylon possibly melting in a getoff as Clark said.
I got some motoport kevlar mesh overpants.. the seem pretty much bomb proof.. the only issue is hey are a bit hard on he stitching on my seat.. had to get a sheepskin to protect the stitching..
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« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2012, 09:26:50 AM »

Never understood the kevlar pants thing. Not the protection but the wear of them. What I mean is, if I wear them to a ride I'd think they'd be a little stinky ofter 3 days.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #72 on: June 13, 2012, 10:08:31 AM »

Never understood the kevlar pants thing. Not the protection but the wear of them. What I mean is, if I wear them to a ride I'd think they'd be a little stinky ofter 3 days.  Embarrassed

Yeah, so would jocks or briefs.  You can wash all three.   Smiley

I have to admit, you might have a point there Brian.
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« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2012, 10:26:52 AM »

Never understood the kevlar pants thing. Not the protection but the wear of them. What I mean is, if I wear them to a ride I'd think they'd be a little stinky ofter 3 days.  Embarrassed

Yeah, so would jocks or briefs.  You can wash all three.   Smiley

I have to admit, you might have a point there Brian.

Well I pack throw aways socks and underware. So those never get washed! Most hotels I stay at dont have washing machines. A day ride across IA I know they would be stinky! Wont bother me but it may passenger!  Grin

I was just wonderin.

Now how do they hold up in the wash? I know us EMS folks dont wash our pants after every shift. Unless its really hot and sweaty or they get body fluids on them. Summer time you looks at every 2 weeks, maybe. These pants dont hold up well for 50 washes a year. At $60 a pr it can get expensive.
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« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2012, 11:03:01 AM »

I haven't washed the jeans but once so far.  Lots of bugs on them now but they still don't smell.
I'm going to wash them today, glad that you reminded me.
Overall, they aren't much hotter than regular jeans and definitely should give some protection in scrapes across the asphalt.   I like them. I use suspenders with them and I don't even notice the weight and, with no belt, they are very comfortable.

Mark has been wearing regular Diamond  Gusset Jeans for a long time and they'll outwear regular jeans by three to one.
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« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2012, 12:12:34 PM »

I'm still trying to figure out the extra "T" in the title?

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« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2012, 01:14:26 PM »

I agree to a point.  But I'd like to invite you both to the Gulf Coast dressed ATTGATT, and get a second point of view    Roll Eyes  coolsmiley
I did notice as I wrote this (1300hrsCDT), the temp here is 90F Evil, and in Golden,CO it's 61F cooldude.  

You've ridden with me, Bobby, and you know I do the ATG(almost)ATT thing in Houston, right alongside you and your powered cooler.
Just about the only thing I will forego is the pants, if it's a short ride, and I regard that as pure laziness on my own part.
I mean ARMORED pants, folks.  I usually do wear pants in general when I'm out in public.
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« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2012, 01:38:19 PM »

As I mentioned, I wear Diamond Gusset Defender jeans with kevlar in the knees and butt.  Diamond Gusset jeans are VERY comfortable and give extra room where it's needed (Are you listening Stud Stanley?)  The kevlar should give the protection where it's needed (I don't want to find out) but it's also conducive to 'monkey butt'  since it doesn't breathe like cotton.

I did wear at one time Aerostitch pants but they're 'way too hot especially when you should wear jeans under them due to the nylon possibly melting in a getoff as Clark said.

And I sure DO need that extra room Wayne......for my butt!!......I have two pairs of armored mesh pants that I wear.......haven't worn the grey ones in a while since someone told my the panels on the back resemble a "Bullseye??"!!!........ Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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