F150, Silverado, or Ram?

[cookiedough]

75% of owners driving Chevy could have something to do with a GM plant was nearby in Janesville WI before they closed down in 2007/2008.  Since the terminations of 1,000's of GM and other smaller supplier workers, not so many GM products being sold, wonder why??? 

Agree though, to each their own and best to drive them all whether Dodge, Ford, GM, or Toyota.  So many cab/bed/engine configurations for each mfg. that it pays to shop around to see what fits your needs best.

For me as of now, the Toyota Double Cab 5.7L non-TRD, SR5 equipped with 6 1/2' bed length is the best combo of resale, power, reliability, and function (needs) that best suit me.  It may not be for everyone or their needs though. 

[BIG--T]

75% of owners driving Chevy could have something to do with a GM plant was nearby in Janesville WI before they closed down in 2007/2008.  Since the terminations of 1,000's of GM and other smaller supplier workers, not so many GM products being sold, wonder why??? 

Agree though, to each their own and best to drive them all whether Dodge, Ford, GM, or Toyota.  So many cab/bed/engine configurations for each mfg. that it pays to shop around to see what fits your needs best.

For me as of now, the Toyota Double Cab 5.7L non-TRD, SR5 equipped with 6 1/2' bed length is the best combo of resale, power, reliability, and function (needs) that best suit me.  It may not be for everyone or their needs though. 

If you say so!!    

Btw,  http://www.carsdirect.com/car-buying/what-is-the-best-truck-to-buy-for-passenger-space

[bscrive]

This really sums it up.

Durabilty TEST Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge vs Toyota	powered by Aeva

[BIG--T]

This really sums it up.

Durabilty TEST Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge vs Toyota

It's a Ford commercial with the Ford guy himself so what do you expect?      

[BigBF]

This really sums it up.

Durabilty TEST Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge vs Toyota

I rest my case! 

[BIG--T]

This really sums it up.

Durabilty TEST Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge vs Toyota

I rest my case!  

Yep, paid for and tested BY Ford!!!         

[cookiedough]

I don't believe most of these tests on video.  One puts Dodge on top while the other puts Ford on top or Ford last or whatever same engine and model year.  I do know the Ford and Dodge and GM do ride just a tad softer (not as bumpy) on regular roads vs. the Tundra, but besides the 6.2L GM V8, the 5.7L in the tundra with 4.30 rear axle ratio (beefiest in all 1/2 ton trucks currently) is very fast and can pull with ease vs. the big 3 competition.

If it wasn't for the newer Dodge having poor resale value and iffy reliability, I'd consider a 5.7L hemi in a quad cab with 6'4" bed since the ride is softer with coil springs in rear (doesn't tow as much though) since the 5.4L in the Ford and 5.3L in the chevy have no power.  Can't comment on the new Ford engines but have heard the V6 turbo ecoboost is pretty quick and the revamped 5.0L in the Ford pickup
is much improved over the 5.4L outdated Ford engine.   

If buying used,  the Tundra will be the priciest most likely (thanks to it's higher resale value and less rebates when new vs. the Big 3 offering much higher rebates) and if buying on price alone, Ford would be a good bet.  Not saying that Ford is bad, just not the best in anyone category in my opinion. 

[BIG--T]

 
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[Popeye]

I had been a GM guy most of my life.  Bought an used F-150 about 2 years ago and have never looked back. Great truck.

[BIG--T]

I had been a GM guy most of my life.  Bought an used F-150 about 2 years ago and have never looked back. Great truck.

They are all good to me until they leave you stranded! 

[fudgie]

We have more problems with our Ford ambulances then we do with the Chevy ones. I do know the Chevy's haul ass compared to the fords. Quieter to.

[fudgie]

75% of owners driving Chevy could have something to do with a GM plant was nearby in Janesville WI before they closed down in 2007/2008.  Since the terminations of 1,000's of GM and other smaller supplier workers, not so many GM products being sold, wonder why??? 

Our GM plant here in Ft Wayne Ind is one of the top GM truck producers. Cant count how many thousands of trucks are here. Its doing very well.

[BIG--T]

We have more problems with our Ford ambulances then we do with the Chevy ones. I do know the Chevy's haul ass compared to the fords. Quieter to.

Yep that's the way it's always been.  Fix Or Repair Daily And the Bow Ties blow the Fords away!!       

[cookiedough]

We have more problems with our Ford ambulances then we do with the Chevy ones. I do know the Chevy's haul ass compared to the fords. Quieter to.

Yep that's the way it's always been.  Fix Or Repair Daily And the Bow Ties blow the Fords away!!       

Yah, definitely doesn't stand for:  First On Race Day , more like:  Found On Road Dead 

All 4 make decent trucks really nowadays, it is just what you decide is the most important to you.  If you like a nicer, softer ride pick one of the Big 3, if you want the best engine and tranny combo with the most towing power, get a Tundra. 

[MCRIDER]

Just be sure and buy one that supports the japanese economy, NOT ours.  Our economy doesn't need any help anymore, but those japanese do need help.  You know that they'll be around in your later years to help you out, too.

[Stude]

Chevy 

[Stude]

CHEVY 

[Stude]

  Chevy 

[cookiedough]

Just be sure and buy one that supports the japanese economy, NOT ours.  Our economy doesn't need any help anymore, but those japanese do need help.  You know that they'll be around in your later years to help you out, too.

http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/28/buy-american-truck-hypocrisy/

http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2011/06/29/tundra-most-american-truck-2011/

http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2010/06/25/toyota-tundra-most-american/

For those that think buying American means just buying the Big 3,  think again.  Last I knew Honda cycles were a Japan based company yet our Valks were made in Ohio correct?  Any company employing AMERICAN workers with AMERICAN made parts more than the others gets my vote ONLY IF they make a product I want/need!   

[BF]

 

[BIG--T]

[Patrick]

I was wondering where the big 3 ,, err,, I hate to say it,, big 4,, trucks were made.. They are all now made in the U.S. of A.. Being in the business I thought I was up on all this,, learn something every day..

The folks I know that own ' the other 2 ' [ Nissan Titan and Honda Ridgeline] all say they like them..

The Dodge Ram I now have [ American made] is the best truck I've had in 20 years [ and I grew up with Ford].. Apparently Dodge will no longer build the Ram in Mexico..

[Varmintmist]

Yep that's the way it's always been.  Fix Or Repair Daily And the Bow Ties blow the Fords away!!       

Aways been .... where???


Hate to burst your bubble but as far as bucket truck conversions, chebbys suck as well as blow. It was a good day for mechanics when we went to chebbys. Though now, a lot have refused to continue to work on them, INCLUDING DEALERS. Multiple transmissions, not one has had less than 2 headgaskest, most new heads under 100K mi. Apparently chebby doesnt understand pwr to gnd at all. Downtime is normal time for these. BTW, they are everything from 3500's with the gas to D conversion engine, to the new 5500's which have had trans problems. Unfortunatley, they sell the truck cheaper and since it was a different budget to buy, than to maintain for years, they would buy chebbys and they would sit in the shop when they should be working. We have had so many down at one time that we ran out of ones that were idle because people were on vacation. Some techs kept their stuff in crates so they could switch trucks every Mon for 6 months.

Personally, GM got the last of the money they will see from me (except that which the Gov. steals from me to give to them) after I paid off a GMC Safari, twice, once in payments, and again in repairs.

Now as to POV's, out of the small pool of people at work, there have been multiple chebby to Ford conversions, none the other way.

Chebbys may be as good as anything else, but don't blow that horn loud, because YMMV

[3fan4life]

Nothing like a good fight over whose truck is best. 

I've never owned anything but GM Trucks, my current and hopefully my last is a 04 GMC Crewcab.

I like everything about it except the MPG's.

I've driven just about every kind of truck on the market................

Currently Ford, GM, Dodge and Toyota all have good trucks.

The Tundra does have alot of get up and go, what it does not have is room.

The Tundra has the least amount of interior room, especially in the rear seat area.

The Ford has the most room of any that I have driven lately.

The Gas models are all very close in power and performance.

If I were in the market for a diesel p/u I wouldn't buy anything but the Dodge.

The Cummings Diesel is the best by a mile.

The GM (Isuzu) diesel is a good engine as well but it can't match the Cummings.

STAY AWAY, FAR AWAY from the Ford diesel, they had a great engine in the 7.3L, but all of their offerings since are PURE CRAP.

The engine issue alone has caused Ford to lose significant ground in the Ambulance market.


You need to look around and drive what's out there, in the end it always comes down to two things:

1. What you like

2. What you can afford

[Varmintmist]

bottom line, the OP is looking for a grocery getter that he can toss dirty stuff in the back, all 3 (4) have a decent offering.

[Rams]

Nothing like a good fight over whose truck is best. 

The Cummings Diesel is the best by a mile.


You need to look around and drive what's out there, in the end it always comes down to two things:

1. What you like

2. What you can afford

Couldn't have said it better myself.   

[Bigdog]

GMC Sierra crew cab 4x4   I love mine....
All I ever buy is GMC  love the dealer here also  They are the best....
Bob Clyse GMC  Ironton Oh.

[cookiedough]

Good point about dealer service in your area also if need it.  Most GM dealers near me are not that great although a ton around where as my Toyota dealer (few around) 1 is good and 1 is so-so at best.  Some will rake you over the coals while some will be honest and fair.

As far as the comment about Toyota tundra NOT having no interior room obviously has not checked out the 2007 on up tundra crewmax that has well over a foot of just legroom and is crazy large can even recline the rear seats (very comfy and cavernous).  Even the double cab tundra has more rear seat legroom, etc. than the extended cab in the ford and chevy 1/2 ton trucks and is almost as much legroom within 1-2" as a crewcab chevy since I have owned both recently.  If under 6' tall, the legroom, headroom,  and everything else in a tundra double cab is just fine in the rear seats.

Test drive them all and decide which one is within your budget and what you prefer to drive.  What I like may not be what you like and vice versa.   

[3fan4life]

As far as the comment about Toyota tundra NOT having no interior room obviously has not checked out the 2007 on up tundra crewmax that has well over a foot of just legroom and is crazy large can even recline the rear seats (very comfy and cavernous).  Even the double cab tundra has more rear seat legroom, etc. than the extended cab in the ford and chevy 1/2 ton trucks and is almost as much legroom within 1-2" as a crewcab chevy since I have owned both recently.  If under 6' tall, the legroom, headroom,  and everything else in a tundra double cab is just fine in the rear seats.

I don't know where you are getting this from.

I have worked out of everything but the Dodge and I know for a fact that the Tundra has almost NO rear seat room (2010 and 2011 models).

I couldn't get in or out of the backseat without a "shoe horn".

I was very glad that the speedway switched back to Chevys this year.

NASCAR has F350 crewcabs that travel from track to track, I've worked out of them also and they do have more rear seat room than the Chevy.

[cookiedough]

As far as the comment about Toyota tundra NOT having no interior room obviously has not checked out the 2007 on up tundra crewmax that has well over a foot of just legroom and is crazy large can even recline the rear seats (very comfy and cavernous).  Even the double cab tundra has more rear seat legroom, etc. than the extended cab in the ford and chevy 1/2 ton trucks and is almost as much legroom within 1-2" as a crewcab chevy since I have owned both recently.  If under 6' tall, the legroom, headroom,  and everything else in a tundra double cab is just fine in the rear seats.

I don't know where you are getting this from.

I have worked out of everything but the Dodge and I know for a fact that the Tundra has almost NO rear seat room (2010 and 2011 models).

I couldn't get in or out of the backseat without a "shoe horn".

I was very glad that the speedway switched back to Chevys this year.

NASCAR has F350 crewcabs that travel from track to track, I've worked out of them also and they do have more rear seat room than the Chevy.

Your facts are misguided then.  Look under measurements and you will see that the rear seat area is the largest in the crewmax tundra vs. chevy crewcab and ford crewmax.  Personally, I think it is way overkill the amount of legroom in the crewmax so that is why I went with the double cab tundra that is very close rearseat wise to the chevy crewcab but still maintaining a 6 1/2' bed.  Do agree though that the ford crewmax rear seat area is much bigger than the chevy crewcab.

http://www.toyota.com/compare/index.html?modelCode=tundra#h_select

In above link, must change tundra to crewmax version which changes the chevy and ford to crewcabs as well then go under measurements to see comparisons.

[fon1961]

I could be wrong but I'm guessing most of the referenced trucks would do well for you if you maintained them properly.  I'm happy with my 92 silverado.  I've dealt with the typical stuff plus applied a paint job since I've had it.   It's got about 185K on it and has served me well.  I know other people that have gotten just as good of service or better out of the other brands. 

I've driven the new Fords, Dodges, Chevy's, and Toyotas.  The gas mileage on the new high horsepower trucks is amazing.  Enjoy the selection process.  Trucks are awesome.

[3fan4life]

Your facts are misguided then.

I'm thinking that you need to change your handle to:


THE ANVIL #2


You're wanting to argue room based on #'s and I'm telling you what I have experienced dragging my fat a$$ in and out of the back seat multiple times over the course of several race weekends.

I have worked out of everything but the Dodge and I know for a fact that the Tundra has almost NO rear seat room (2010 and 2011 models).

I couldn't get in or out of the backseat without a "shoe horn".

I was very glad that the speedway switched back to Chevys this year.

NASCAR has F350 crewcabs that travel from track to track, I've worked out of them also and they do have more rear seat room than the Chevy.

If the Toyota does have more rear seat legroom on paper, it DOESN'T translate into usable space.



Wearing a fire suit and a helmet it was ABSOLUTELY ALL that I could do to squeeze in and out of the rear seat of the Toyota crew cab, and I was NOT alone in complaining about the lack of rear seat room.


The GM's have more usable space than the Toyota's and that is a fact that you cannot argue with until you have actually worked out of both of them.


The F350 crew cab has the most usable rear seat room between the three.

I understand that Dodge has a lot of rear seat room but I have no personal experience with them and therefore did not offer an opinion about it.


This really is a "Silly" thing to be arguing about,  so I'm done here.

I am relating what I have personally experienced from working out of the rear seat of the Toyota, Chevy and Ford Crew cabs.

You can either choose to believe me or you can choose to believe a sheet of paper.

Personally, if I'm in the market for something i'll take the word of the guy who actually makes a living using the tool over the word of the salesman everytime.

But, maybe that's just me.

PEACE OUT.

[Tundra]

I could be wrong but I'm guessing most of the referenced trucks would do well for you if you maintained them properly.  I'm happy with my 92 silverado.  I've dealt with the typical stuff plus applied a paint job since I've had it.   It's got about 185K on it and has served me well.  I know other people that have gotten just as good of service or better out of the other brands. 

I've driven the new Fords, Dodges, Chevy's, and Toyotas.  The gas mileage on the new high horsepower trucks is amazing.  Enjoy the selection process.  Trucks are awesome.

Fon1961 Nice job maintaining that truck, looks great. I'll bet your as proud to drive that truck as the first day you bought it

[Big Mike]

All I am going to say is that there is a reason why Ford has the best selling pick up truck for well over 30 years now. I believe it may be up to 34 or 35 by now.

[wdvalk]

stay away from ford deisel? No way,I have a 7.3 and a 6.4,the only thing wrong with the 6.4 is the gov. required regen can on the exaust and it was only minor,once out of waranty at 100.000 miles we installed a delete kit and wow that truck runs and pulls awsome.Would not trade a ford for 3 chevys or 6 toyotas

[fudgie]

Whats better, best selling or the most dependable trucks on the road? 

[Big Mike]

If they were not the most dependable I doubt that they would be the best selling for as many years as they have been. I believe they go hand in hand. Really, why would so many people buy the Ford if it were not dependable?

[Big Mike]

Fudgie, What brand and motor is your ambulance? I will take a guess that it is a Ford with a diesel, there are reasons for this. The reason is not because Toyotas, Chevys, or the Dodge are better or more dependable.

[fudgie]

Fudgie, What brand and motor is your ambulance? I will take a guess that it is a Ford with a diesel, there are reasons for this. The reason is not because Toyotas, Chevys, or the Dodge are better or more dependable.

Our older ones are Fords. The 2 new ones, last 3 yrs, are Chevy's. Ford stopped making a Diesel in a van chassis which is why we went to Chevy. Ford always would give us a fleet discount, which is why we got them. Trust me, our health center dont care about performace or dependability, its all about whats cheaper $$. 
We always had problems with the Fords. Of coarse we beat on them. We have a Ford that has had 2 trannys and a engine or 2 replaced within a yr or 2 under 50k miles. It had problems from day 1. Only minor things with the Chevy. They are alot quieter and can haul ass. We switched ambulance manufacturers with the Chevys so this could be some of it.

[cookiedough]

Your facts are misguided then.

I'm thinking that you need to change your handle to:


THE ANVIL #2


You're wanting to argue room based on #'s and I'm telling you what I have experienced dragging my fat a$$ in and out of the back seat multiple times over the course of several race weekends.

You can either choose to believe me or you can choose to believe a sheet of paper.

Personally, if I'm in the market for something i'll take the word of the guy who actually makes a living using the tool over the word of the salesman everytime.

But, maybe that's just me.

PEACE OUT.

NOOOO,  not Anvil #2.  Me sorry, please forgive me - 

Yah, silly to argue over differences of opinions, to each their own.

Peace Out as well.