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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« on: July 05, 2012, 06:33:30 PM »

The author raises some good questions about what to do or not to do in a like situation. It's generally a mistake to 2'nd guess a good outcome but many alternate outcomes are conceivable. It would have been a very tough situation to find yourself in, no doubt. And the decisions of the armed citizen may well have rested on many factors which can't be seen from just reading about it.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/01/24/waffle-house-customer-shoots-and-kills-armed-robber/
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2012, 06:54:09 PM »

What we don't have is any idea of the physical layout of the shooting scene.   Was the good guy 10-15 feet from the bad guys, with clear and unimpeded targets and a completely safe backstop for a miss?  Or was he further away, with customers between he and the bad guys, and with a backstop into the kitchen?

Starting a gunfight in a crowded restaurant would be bad.  If the bad guys appeared to be calm enough to do the robbery and run with no harm to anyone, I think you sit and watch, and be ready (considering the safety of the customers and crew).  If they are crazy and start shooting people, you shoot back if you can do so effectively and safely.  But you better not make it worse than it is.

This guy seems to have known what he was doing, skillwise.  It could have had other outcomes.

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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2012, 07:26:37 PM »

What we don't have is any idea of the physical layout of the shooting scene.   Was the good guy 10-15 feet from the bad guys, with clear and unimpeded targets and a completely safe backstop for a miss?  Or was he further away, with customers between he and the bad guys, and with a backstop into the kitchen?

Starting a gunfight in a crowded restaurant would be bad.  If the bad guys appeared to be calm enough to do the robbery and run with no harm to anyone, I think you sit and watch, and be ready (considering the safety of the customers and crew).  If they are crazy and start shooting people, you shoot back if you can do so effectively and safely.  But you better not make it worse than it is.

This guy seems to have known what he was doing, skillwise.  It could have had other outcomes.

Remember this?

Pulp Fiction: First/Final Scene Complete and Synchronised






Funny I was thinking of that too although I didn't remember what movie it was. The first time I saw it I didn't notice he was carrying that 1911 hammer down. Probably a good idea when it's stuck in your underwear.  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 07:40:33 PM »

To me, all the Hollywood bullsh!t aside, the point of the movie clip was that even a professional killer was prepared to give up his wallet rather than shoot those idiots, if things didn't go badly.... course, he probably didn't want to hang around and make official statements for a homicide or two, and most people cannot get permits in CA.

Notice, he called his 1911 a 9mm?  A few come that way, but I could not tell if his was. 
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