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« on: March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 AM » |
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I need a picture of the inside of an interstate bag lid, showing where/how the cables and bumpers attach to the lid. Looking to convert Tourer bags to open with an Interstate trunk mounted. If someone could e-mail me one I would be most appreciative. stanpam431REMOVE@msn.com (remove REMOVE) TIA, Stan
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 07:51:44 AM » |
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I'm looking to do the same modification for an aftermarket trunk, and am also having a hard time locating the necessary hardware. Any suggestions appreciated.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 08:07:45 AM » |
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A problem I ran across when putting Tourer lids on my IS...The lids do not have the necessary bosses to fit all of the pieces for the cables or stops. I checked my wife's tourer and they do not have the bosses either. I am not 100% sure on this but I think if you go to the Tourer lids on an IS, you have to take the lid completely off every time you want to get in the bag. If anyone has contrary information, I am all eyes!
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 08:18:03 AM » |
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The lid retainer cables have ends similar to a clutch cable, like a little cylindrical drum. Little brackets that you slide the cylindrical cable ends into are added under the bag hardware on both the lid and bag. Interstate lids are taken off completely, but are supposed to stay tethered fore and aft on the cable ties and lay down against the outside of the bags. Interstate lids also have little legs with rubber tips that serve to hold the lids off the bag paint when in the off position, but are not really necessary.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2013, 08:24:29 AM » |
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I have an interstate that the previous owner lost the rubber feet that slip on the metal standoffs that hold the lid away from the bag when open. He didn't realize it and scrathed the hell out of the bags. I disconnected the cables from my lids so I can remove them completely. The only draw back is if they are not fastened, the lids could be lost.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 08:30:07 AM » |
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The lid retainer cables have ends similar to a clutch cable, like a little cylindrical drum. Little brackets that you slide the cylindrical cable ends into are added under the bag hardware on both the lid and bag. Interstate lids are taken off completely, but are supposed to stay tethered fore and aft on the cable ties and lay down against the outside of the bags. Interstate lids also have little legs with rubber tips that serve to hold the lids off the bag paint when in the off position, but are not really necessary.
Jess, I agree 100%...concerning the IS Lids...but my point was that the Tourer lids did not have the spots for all for cables that hold the lid to the bag.
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 08:46:17 AM » |
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The lid retainer cables have ends similar to a clutch cable, like a little cylindrical drum. Little brackets that you slide the cylindrical cable ends into are added under the bag hardware on both the lid and bag. Interstate lids are taken off completely, but are supposed to stay tethered fore and aft on the cable ties and lay down against the outside of the bags. Interstate lids also have little legs with rubber tips that serve to hold the lids off the bag paint when in the off position, but are not really necessary.
Jess, I agree 100%...concerning the IS Lids...but my point was that the Tourer lids did not have the spots for all for cables that hold the lid to the bag. Well Joe, I have not studied the Tourer lids and may be wrong, but what I was trying to say is, the little cable retainer brackets are simply added to the existing bag hardware.... Screw pulled out of hardware, bracket sistered up on hardware and screw put back in. I do think the bosses in the interstate bag lids that are used to attach the hold-off-legs are missing from the Tourer bag lids.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 08:55:44 AM » |
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I have an interstate that the previous owner lost the rubber feet that slip on the metal standoffs that hold the lid away from the bag when open. He didn't realize it and scrathed the hell out of the bags. I disconnected the cables from my lids so I can remove them completely. The only draw back is if they are not fastened, the lids could be lost.
My first interstate came with the cables removed and I left it that way for many years. Over time, the bracket hardware at the front of one bag twisted a bit, and the clamp at the front was not fully engaging. Last fall on the freeway I hit a bad bump at 75 and the clamp let go and the lid sailed under a minivan and was run over. Used bag lid, body shop repair and paint, new (one) Honda OE bag rack, and hardware will run me close to $600 for one lousy lid. Beware. I have OE bag rails on both bikes, and the rails hold the lids off the bag paint when detached and laid on the side (they lay on the top bag rail), so my legs are unnecessary and removed.
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2013, 10:22:52 AM » |
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Stan, I just emailed 3 photos of my Interstate lid. Let me know if you need other pictures. Jim
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 11:26:56 AM » |
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Jim Just what I was needing! Thanks a bunch. Stan
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2013, 08:41:03 PM » |
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Having the ACE Tourer, which used the same bags as the original Valk T, but with the paint scheme of the soon to come IS, this was discussed about a year ago, either here or on the HSATF.
The later lids had the mounting points for the IS hardware, but it was a hit/miss. It wasn't like every bike since 99' had the IS lids, just what ever ones they used.
Your bag may not have the proper mounting points, but I made it work with my GL1100 GW and 98' ACE T, but using picture hangers and steel cable/clamps, and mounted them under the nuts holding the latch and the hinges on the bag.
They don't have the side hangers, for when the lid comes off, but after a year, I never missed them. At least I won't ever loose another lid, like what happend on the GL1100, just like mentioned, fell off on the highway and was run over.
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2013, 08:52:00 AM » |
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I have I/S hinges on my tourer and bought all the I/S stuff. Ended up not using it. I have lid rack and if i strap stuff to it it makes it hard to take the lids off. So I just take the lid off and lay it on my seat or the ground. Works great esp if you have the lid loaded. I've gone a ways with it not latched and been fine. It was Kits job when she got on to check the lids. Now I just reach back and tug on the rack to see if they are latched.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2013, 10:06:00 AM » |
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I have a 99 IS. I took mine apart for painting and have never put the cables back. Interstate bag lid design was an afterthought at Honda. (I think they added a trunk, and went ohh-poop when they lifted the sidebag lid) Since my lids have the chrome racking, it is very convenient to pick them up to move them. I love having the lid off  It makes it possible to pack my AeroCraft one piece suit in the side bag. When the IS hangs off the side via the cables, full access to the bag cavity is reduced slightly. I think the side bag lid design is the poorest thing I've seen Honda design to date. Love the bike!  GJS
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