Wiring for Dummies Centech install Questions

[westsidevalk]

I am totally unfamiliar with wiring etc, but I believe, with this board as a resource, I can do this install.


I am getting ready to install my Centech AP-2 fuse panel and AP-130 Relay kit, and I have a few initial questions.

1. What type of connector do I need to connect my trigger wire to the 5 amp aux leads? I have one orange trigger wire but it looks like two leads on the aux wire? Is there only one way the connector can fit? Which side is hot?







2. How do I get to the leads without damaging the plastic cover?

3. What are my best mounting options for both the fuse panel and relay?  Attach them with screws or other means?

4. What do people mean when they say they mounted the fuse panel behind the right side cover? How is it mounted?

5. Should I wire up the relay and fuse panel off or on the bike?


Thanks in advance. I did a search and learned a few things, but still have questions.

How do I search the Old Tech Archives?



Thanks in advance

[YoungPUP]

You can open the clip holding the Aux harness to give yourself some more room to work with. The plastic cover for the leads should slide back up the harness (mine did)  If I remember right one of the wires is a hot lead the other is a ground.  You can get the correct connectors herehttp://www.vintageconnections.com/index.htm

[westsidevalk]

Thanks!

I was hoping I might get the connection locally, but if I gots to go through the mail, I gots to go through the mail

[salty1]

Actually you might find some connectors at Ace Hardware that will work with a little expansion and crimping. I placed my centech fuse block in the space behind the battery where the tool pouch was kept and enveloped it with sponge. I also 3M squared the relays in the same area. If your using the accessory wiring for the relay trigger, I believe the hot lead is a green/red stripped(?) wire and the other lead is a ground. This is a switched circuit. Hope this helps.

[ptgb]

1. What type of connector do I need to connect my trigger wire to the 5 amp aux leads? I have one orange trigger wire but it looks like two leads on the aux wire? Is there only one way the connector can fit? Which side is hot?

I believe on the Standard/Tourer the hot is the green with red tracer. On the Interstate, I think it is another color. The ground is the solid green wire; so it's the other one. To be sure just check it with a test light with the key on.

As far as attaching the wire to the accessory wire on the bike. If you don't want to wait to order a bullet connector, you can just strip the wire upstream from the connector and wrap, solder, and shrink wrap the connection.

If I remember correctly, on mine, I simply put a small flat head screw driver in the split part of the connector and just spread it open a bit, that way, the slightly bigger bullet connector will fit. I put a drop of solder on the connection as well, just to be safe.

2. How do I get to the leads without damaging the plastic cover?

It takes a little finagling, but the plastic cover will slide up. As already stated, it is easy if you open up the wire bundle tie.

3. What are my best mounting options for both the fuse panel and relay?  Attach them with screws or other means?

I used an Eastern Beaver box on mine, which I believe is taller than the Centech box. I just velcro'ed it to the top of the battery box lid (works only if you have a Standard or Tourer). Makes access to the box very easy and it stays out of the weather as your ass is covering it most of the time. The relay was wire-tied to the area in front of the battery box.

4. What do people mean when they say they mounted the fuse panel behind the right side cover? How is it mounted?

That's better left to the people who have done it that way. I know some mounted it on a plastic base and tied it to the frame rail. But again, I didn't do it that way, so I may be telling it wrong.

5. Should I wire up the relay and fuse panel off or on the bike?

I did it on the bike as it allows for proper wire lengths, placement, etc. But YMMV.

Good luck.

[westsidevalk]

Thanks for all the suggestions, its all much clearer to me now!

probably I am dense, but...

on a device that has three wires, pos/neg/ and trigger wire for a relay, how does that connect to the fuse block?

[salty1]

Here's some homework. Off to ride with my buds.

http://www.rattlebars.com/valkfaq/circuits.html

[BobB]

I thought I would tackle your question #4.  I had a hodgepodge of custom wiring on my '98 Tourer, so over last winter I installed this.  It is an EasternBeaver fuse block and buss.  It mounts with a 1/8" x 3/4" strap that is forked at the rear end fitting over the cover mounting stud.  The other mounting point is off the top bolt that mounts the main fuse.  A longer bolt and nylon spacers behind the strap were used.  Note that the electrical panel is hinged allowing access to the stuff behind.  

I cannot take credit for this.  The idea came from Chris who rides out of Winnipeg.  I met him at Inzane last year.  Chris' handle is chrise2469.  He may have mounted his differently.  I believe there are pictures of his on this site.        





I hope this helps...
  

[westsidevalk]

Thats pretty sweet. I gots to keep it simple for me.
I have this amplifier that came with the speakers that came with the batwing i bought.
On the previous install he had one pos wire one neg and a wire with a relay that plugged into the aux port.e

I know its good that the amp had its own relay, but since im running  the amp to my fuse block, i dont know what to do with the seperately wired amp relay.

[gordonv]

I spent a year looking around town with different retail stores for connectors that would fit out bike. No go. Unless you can find a shop that has already bought these connectors, then Vintage is your best choice.

The Hondas use the 3.5 mm bullet connectors, the ones you can buy everywhere are 4 mm.