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http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/store/freemasonry-from-darkness-to-light.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0T3QB6_kvMR. A. Torrey aptly pointed out the contradiction between being a Christian and a Mason when he said you could be a Christian and a Mason at the same time but that you could not be an intelligent Christian and an intelligent Mason at the same time. If that statement is generally true and it is, then how much more of a contradiction is it to be an ordained minister of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and to hold membership in Freemasonry? It is an egregious contradiction! As for the pics I also hope you keep posting them some are really good and its interesting. Plus it would keep to topic. Just some facts to let you know how the separation of church and state got started. Its is a Masonic doctrine going back to the Scottish right and New Age Journal. Which by the way is the Masonic book of doctrine renamed Scottish Right journal. Roosevelt a Mason appointed 9 supreme court justices 6 were Masons 3 agreed with Masonic doctrine. Truman a 33rd degree master Mason and head of the lodge appointed 4 Supreme courts judges all Masons. Eisenhower appointed 2 judges Masons to the courts. It was at that time that the courts started to hear establishment clause cases how the government will handle cases of religion. It was during this time that the Mason dominated courts hoisted this separation of church and state on us. This was a effort to secularize the US society that we still see happening today. I now understand also what the new world airport commission is. This shows a small example of how much influence a secret society has over the geez enough already, let em post nice pics without the indoctrination ! |
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... Blah blah blah... Yada yada yada... Blah lah blah... Who cares. Even if the dollar bill has Masonic symbols (it doesn't)... Who cares? Even if the separation of church and state was started by masons (I don't know)... Who cares? Even if there's a Masonic block on dispay at an airport... Who cares? We call our lodge officers by funny names... Who cares? So what? Why is any of this a problem? Do you think you have any control of it? Do you think the guys at the lodge down the street have any control of it? Ooooh it's a big conspiracy... NO IT ISN'T. Don't trust the government? Don't trust the politicians? Nobody does. There hasn't been a Freemason president since Ford. No, not in the oval office but the real strings are being pulled from the shadows right? Yeah a bunch of Men In Black types are controlling the world markets, medicines and who's allowed to cure cancer while the rest are poisoned by vaccinations and fluoride in the water. If that's true then we're all screwed - but it's not by the masons. Oh.... Us lower guys aren't in on the REAL secrets... Except that there's no degree higher than a 3rd degree. Yes, it's complicated. Try to join and find out for yourself. Can't join because the church controls your thoughts? Yeah... The church has issues too and yet we all belong to that (ok not all but many). But those links are just plain bizarre. Just because some weird lady calls a conspiracy radio show (it's weird just to listen, nevermind call) doesn't make her any kind of authority. She didn't even know what a 'blue lodge' is. The guy kept discrediting everything she said. Why did anyone even record it? It didn't make any sense. Why post it? What was the takeaway? Anyway I could go on. I don't know how any of this was to support my thread. I'm just enjoying taking pictures in front of lodges. I've seen some bikers take pictures in front of churches, post offices, covered bridges, even grange halls. I was hoping other's would join me in posting pics in front of Freemason lodges. What I wasn't hoping for was a bunch of conspiracy and religious nonsence about the guys at the lodge down the street who joined a group dedicated to helping people, friendship and charity. And yes - that's what they do. Why? Because they do it together, and that's nice. For all the good works that masons and their various appendent bodies do, when the conspiracy folks get started its like biting the hand that helps the community. |
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If you want to be one,,,,,,,,,ask one.
Some of the greatest men in history were. The Lodge is virtually a who's who of movers and shakers, and some of the highest quality folks I have ever had the pleasure to meet.
I must admit, I was in the wrong lodge for me. I'm really not a finished Ashlar.
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First let me don my flameproof suit CHRISTIANITY: The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity, because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Makes perfect sense. ATHEISM: The belief that there was nothing, and nothing happened to nothing, and then then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything, and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits, which then turned into dinosaurs. Makes perfect sense. More pics of Valkryrie's in front of anything please! |
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The shrine is not a part of Masonry, but you have to be a Mason to join the shrine. Masonic Motorcycle Club International annual meeting August 12th - 16th in Davis West Virgina this year. masonicmotorcycleclub.org
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When it was learned in my Church that I had joined the Masonic Lodge, the SENIOR Elder made a major production of pulled me over in front of everybody after Church and started preaching to me the EVILS of the Masonic Lodge....
We he got to the point where he finished, I responded......
"Well, I am new to the organization, I don't know....
What I do know is that BEFORE any business is conducted in the lodge, the FIRST thing that is done is the Bible is carefully & respectfully removed from its secured place, walked around the room for ALL to see and then placed open on the ALTER for ALL to see while services are conducted. ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS is conducted until that happens. And the LAST thing that happens is the process reversed before the Lodge is closed.."
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"I've been going to church here since I was born and you know I just don't recall a service, other than Bible School, where there is a Bible on display for all to see during services. And, I have certainly NEVER seen this Church display the respect for the Bible during a service that the Masonic Lodge Shows."
Never been another word said.
I also have a good friend who is Catholic and a member of both the Masonic Lodge and Knights of Columbus. IF you know anything about the organizations you know the contradiction that posses...
From what I have seen in the last 27 Years of membership in the Blue Lodge, York Rite, and Shrine is that they are fellowship organizations based on Christian tenants of good moral conduct and character. There are a lot of organizations that are the same that are not condemned by "the CHURCH" that fall in the same category....
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Robert and others who put us down need to get the facts, not make them up or listen to people who say they know the truth, Dan Brown made a fortune with his Movie, which I thought was quite neat but did have a good laugh in many places at the rubbish that was put forward as fact....but, but but it must be true some say, He researched the facts...Yeah Right..
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I guess everyone missed the point there are many fine people in the Masons just like the Shriner' s just like any organization including planed parent hood. But did you swear a oath, did you take a pledge, did you swear a blood oath, does the initiation require swearing to your God not a specific god whoever that may be. In most cases you have to give preferential treatment to brothers and not tell family or anyone the secrets of Masons. That is why I have not gotten any answers and no open discussion either. This combined with the deeds of some top level Masons and words spoken by and acted upon by some of the founders or upper level brothers of Masonry is contrary to what the Bible teaches. Along with the ideals and brotherhood of those in Masonry have led this country to this point. Again why the all seeing eye, why the pyramid on our money with New World Order in Latin. The Bible says you can tell them by their fruits, while I see some here doing good things I see those in higher leadership doing the very opposite. While no one should have lambasted anyone for being in Masons because its not black and white, I cannot be upset with those who decide to go into it. All I would ask is read understand the encrypted rules of Masonry and read the Bible and see what the truth really is. I would say that 80 to 90 percent of Christians have not read the Bible either and can be mislead easily especially when its word of mouth. I applaud every man here and know most here are good men thank God for that and would rather trust in that, but why support financially and with oath a organization that is at the top questionable. When all Christians accepted Jesus they took a oath or accepted Jesus by the words of their mouth how is swearing to the Masons any different? Why is one of the Masons goals a one world religion. That is why you can be a intelligent Christian or a intelligent Mason but not both. Masons have made alot of the US why not post the lodges its interesting to see how things progressed and are progressing through history and how we have arrived at this point and where we are headed and Masons without a doubt have played a big part. The devil looks like a angel of light although dimly. How easily is it to be fooled. Everyone makes their own decision I have made my share of mistakes so I cannot condemn anyone. Please continue with the pics I enjoy the rides and pics as much as anyone and its nice to witness a bit of history.
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Can we now start expecting regular reports on when you and the fellow members of the Westburo Baptist Church are going to protest?.
That was EXTREME and uncalled for. Oh I beg to differ! You can beg all that you want but , you would still be WRONG !!!!!!!!! It is imperative that participants converse in a courteous, respectful manner. Differing opinions and viewpoints are normal and foster lively debate, but please keep your comments relevant to the subject being discussed and not about the person who offers a differing opinion than your own.
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Gee Robert,
Can we now start expecting regular reports on when you and the fellow members of the Westburo Baptist Church are going to protest?.
That was EXTREME and uncalled for. Oh I beg to differ! You can beg all that you want but , you would still be WRONG !!!!!!!!! It is imperative that participants converse in a courteous, respectful manner. Differing opinions and viewpoints are normal and foster lively debate, but please keep your comments relevant to the subject being discussed and not about the person who offers a differing opinion than your own.
http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,757.0.htmlAll he did was ask a ? It may have sarcastic or smartass, but he didn't call him any names or insult him |
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Titan
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« Reply #79 on: July 21, 2013, 11:40:45 AM » |
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