I wasn't making it an "us" and "them" thing about it as to someone else's perspective, "we" are a "them". Me along with many others I know in the VRCC are also active members in other clubs and I know at least 1 who is a member of the Southern Cruisers. I've met some great people on all kinds of bikes on our bike trips everywhere we go. I was voicing my concern about traffic.
I should have been more clear ... it was the "broken down Harley" comment I was thinking of.
Traffic out there is always busy if the weather is nice.
This year, I get to come out Friday and STAY TILL SUNDAY! Last few years I've had to head back to Houston on Saturday morning.